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    Veteran Member Four Rings A4orce84's Avatar
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    Rubber Window Trim - Popping Up

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    Hey Guys,

    As the subject states, recently I've noticed that some of the rubber trim around my rear window is starting to pop-out near the rear and not sit flush:

    Pictures:
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    Is there anyone out there who has experienced something similar? Any adhesive products I can use to fix this issue?

    Thanks in advance for everyone's advice, comments, and feedback. It is greatly appreciated! =)

    Thanks,
    Asif
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    This is a common issue ! Mine did this too...if someone know how to fix it would be nice !

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    Veteran Member Four Rings evo_ski's Avatar
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    I have the same thing
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    Veteran Member Four Rings MacFady's Avatar
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    I have the same issue on the vertical portion on the passenger front window, sort of where it meets the horizontal part. Bubbled out, I can squeeze water out of it sometimes. Now the rubber has actually torn, if I tap on it white powder comes out.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
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    Same problem here. I tried double sided tape but it didn't seem to work.
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    Senior Member Three Rings GTA's Avatar
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    Yup. Same here. But only on the rear of my passenger right front door. I just push it down every time I walk past it. It says down for a couple of days and it pops back up. Haven't come up with a fix though. Annoying for sure but it's gotten to be routine now.

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    Senior Member Three Rings MoparFreak69's Avatar
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    What's happened is someone has tried to remove it by just pulling on it like a lot of cars are made to do. Ours are pinned into the door shell accessible only by removing the window frame. Only proper solution is to buy an intact trim strip, disassemble the door almost completely and clip it in properly.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings A4orce84's Avatar
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    There is no way to reuse the same trim strip and fix it? Clean and re-clip it in the door correctly?
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    Senior Member Three Rings MoparFreak69's Avatar
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    You can probably find some way to ghetto mod it to stay but once the metal spine inside the trim gets bent you're probably never going to get it to look right.

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    Mine have been doing that, I used a dab of urethane adhesive to hold the ends down. Its been about a month and its still perfect.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings diagnosticator's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparFreak69 View Post
    What's happened is someone has tried to remove it by just pulling on it like a lot of cars are made to do. Ours are pinned into the door shell accessible only by removing the window frame. Only proper solution is to buy an intact trim strip, disassemble the door almost completely and clip it in properly.
    Not the case. The trim eventually pops up like it does without any reason other than failure of the adhesive. My trim is doing the same thing. The force that curves the trim, is caused by aging and weathering of the trim, resulting in shrinkage of the trim in a way that causes upward curving to occur, pulling the end of the trim up from the door edge.

    The surfaces of the trim piece exposed to the elements and UV from the sun, shrinks the exposed upper surfaces compared to the normal dimension of the inner surfaces of the unexposed underside of the trim piece, causing the bending force that lifts the trim upward at the end.

    The constant application of the bending force eventually causes the adhesive to fail, allowing the trim to lift from the door edge at the end. The adhesive is not intended to resist constant loading, it is only capable of holding the trim in place without a constant loading force applied, this is why the adhesive eventually fails allowing the trim to lift upward. When the trim starts lifting up, the metal spine of the trim gets bent and adds to the continuing upward lift of the trim.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings diagnosticator's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin C View Post
    Mine have been doing that, I used a dab of urethane adhesive to hold the ends down. Its been about a month and its still perfect.
    Where did you get the urethane adhesive? Brand name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparFreak69 View Post
    You can probably find some way to ghetto mod it to stay but once the metal spine inside the trim gets bent you're probably never going to get it to look right.
    I agree. I wonder if removing the trim and straightening on a straight edge would be worthwhile.

    Regardless, replacing the trim piece with a new one is the best solution for this problem.
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    I've removed several from junk yard cars and tried to straiten them all to no avail, added a little epoxy to mine and its holding ok. These damn things are uber pricey.
    We need a group discount buy on these.

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    Kevin C -- Adhesive information please?


    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4orce84 View Post
    Kevin C -- Adhesive information please?


    Thanks,
    Asif
    http://www.homedepot.com/p/Loctite-P...0595/202020473

    http://www.homedepot.com/p/Loctite-P...0594/202020474

    I used this because I had a tube... Its pretty good stuff.

    Another choice: https://www.emisupply.com/catalog/si...B#.V4XUvrgrJaQ

    Basicly, almost any moisture cure polyurethane seems like a good choice. Black moisture cure would be a would a nice choice. A bit of masking tape while it cures is a good idea.
    2003 02X Six speed swapped, RS4 RSB, H&R FSB, B7 brakes, 2.0T stroker, DSMIC's, B7 CTS K04 turbo.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings A4orce84's Avatar
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    Bumping this back up, have time to attend to this issue on my car.

    Anyone else try the adhesive route to fix this easily?


    Thanks,
    Asif
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    Veteran Member Four Rings ShogunR32's Avatar
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    I had a friend at a body shop look at it, All he did was pinch the shit out of the metal on the inside on the rubber trim and it has not come up since. Its been a few months now and no more issue so I'm happy
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    Oh god. Ive been meaning to post this for years. I always just walk around my car and hit them all down with the side of my fist before I go anywhere.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings A4orce84's Avatar
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    Hey Everyone,

    Wanted to close the loop on my thread, I was able to finally resolve my rubber window trim issue. Pictures below:

    Before:




    After:


    Solution:
    I ended up picking a small bottle of the following from Home Depot:
    http://www.homedepot.com/p/Loctite-P...210757&cj=true

    Got a few q-tips and layered a good amount on the actual rubber and the body. Then proceeded to bungee everything and hold it in place for 48-hours:


    Waited a week before posting the results and here we are....everything still looks just as good as when I took the bungee's off. Back to a normal looking rubber window trim once again. =)


    If anyone has any additional questions or concerns, please let me know!

    Thanks,
    Asif
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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    I used black silicon on mine as they have been the same as Op pictures for 3 years and too expensive to replace. Tried pulling a couple at scrap yard and ruin them in the process. It's been a year and they are still staying in place.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    I don't recall any adhesive on my original ones. I replaced both of my rear ones with oem replacements. I think they were around $75ea. after my discount.


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    I think ECS had them around 135 each for the rear

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