CALLING OUT Hightekflytech

[itsmatt33]

DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY.

I want to start with a disclaimer that I have been in this community for a LONG time, but through the years almost every transaction I have had through the forum has gone without issue. Below is the original ad in which he had posted for a set of recaro s4 seats. I contacted him last Sunday at 5 with an offer picked up on Wednesday (today). He countered my offer and told me that he wanted to keep the rear headrests or go at a higher price. Because I did not have a spare set of headrests, or want his counter price offer, I passed. Come Monday morning I get a text from him agreeing that he would take my original offer and I get to keep the headrest. Because I am out of town I had a buddy drive down 1.5 hours to pick everything up. When my buddy gets there I get a call from my buddy saying Hightekflytech does not have the rear headrest and that he will not accept our original agreed price if he were to include them. I call up Hightekflytech while my buddy was there and state that was not what we had agreed to but he instead tells me that he has another buyer and its a steal as is so "yea I am going back on my word if thats how you want to phrase it." I told him the least he could have done was told me earlier in the day he was going to change his mind because of a new buyer or whatever reason. At this point I am stuck in between a rock and a hard place because my buddy did me a favor of driving down to Moreno Valley to pick everything up forcing me to accept even though that was not our original agreement.

Long story short
He had a posted price
I countered
He countered
I passed
He texted me next morning saying he was accepting my original offer
My buddy shows up to pick them up (1.5 hour drive) and suddenly he decides to go back on his word of our agreed price.

This is not how you do business. And I still have the entire text message conversation should anyone have doubts.


http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...4-Recaro-seats

[14S4GWM]

What a douche!

[Slick_B8]

Damn, thats fucked up.

[christianb5s4]

That's a bummer, at least you still got a solid deal even with the rude tactics the seller used.

[Hightekflytech]

Let me start off by apologizing for the miscommunication on my end. The other buyer hit me up the same day he was supposed to get the seats.
Now that's out the way, let me speak on my behalf. What wasn't stated was that we were going back and forth on what was going to be included for the "counter"price he came at me with. The original price was FIRM, not OBO. With that being said, he still tried to counter offer and I stated that with his counter offer I would remove the rear headrest. He claimed he didn't have a spare set and there was no agreement at the end of that day/conversation. I then hit him up a day or 2 after asking if he still was interested in the seats for his counter price and he said yes. There was miscommunication, yes I can admit to that but what I won't do is allow someone to be pushy and talk me down even lower on what is already a steal of a deal. Most people don't even get the front seats for the price he paid for both. If it was that much of an issue or bothered him that much, things could of been as simple as "I don't want to do business with this guy because I feel a certain way, and I'll leave". Leaving the seats where they were and then commenting on my business is justifiable but buying them anyways and then talking shit about the whole transaction is just ridiculous. I even found a fellow az member with the rear headrests and gave him the number to contact him at the end of all this. If you didn't like what was going on, you shoulda just left everything where it was, point blank

[Food4Audis]

Let me start off by apologizing for the miscommunication on my end. The other buyer hit me up the same day he was supposed to get the seats.
Now that's out the way, let me speak on my behalf. What wasn't stated was that we were going back and forth on what was going to be included for the "counter"price he came at me with. The original price was FIRM, not OBO. With that being said, he still tried to counter offer and I stated that with his counter offer I would remove the rear headrest. He claimed he didn't have a spare set and there was no agreement at the end of that day/conversation. I then hit him up a day or 2 after asking if he still was interested in the seats for his counter price and he said yes. There was miscommunication, yes I can admit to that but what I won't do is allow someone to be pushy and talk me down even lower on what is already a steal of a deal. Most people don't even get the front seats for the price he paid for both. If it was that much of an issue or bothered him that much, things could of been as simple as "I don't want to do business with this guy because I feel a certain way, and I'll leave". Leaving the seats where they were and then commenting on my business is justifiable but buying them anyways and then talking shit about the whole transaction is just ridiculous. I even found a fellow az member with the rear headrests and gave him the number to contact him at the end of all this. If you didn't like what was going on, you shoulda just left everything where it was, point blank

I can vouch for Hightekflytech that he's not a shady guy at all. Straight up good dude. No need to bash someone in the forums. take care of that privately.

[AudiSport12]

Where I come from, your word is your word. I guess people these days don't stand for that anymore.

I would have told the other buyer, "sorry, there is someone else already on the way" and man up to your word.

But that's just me

[itsmatt33]

Going to go ahead and point out some flaws in what you said.

1. You agreed to a price knowing I would not be supplying spare headrests and knowing I was not going to accept a deal missing headrests hence why I passed on Sunday to your counter offers for either missing headrests or a higher price and you accepted my original offer on Monday
2.You accepted my offer on Monday on your own will in fact (and we agreed to pick up on Weds), I passed on Monday, but since you had another buyer on Weds you thought it would be okay to go ahead and go back on your word because there was a better deal out there. The LEAST you could have done was told me in the morning so I would not have had someone drive down 1.5 hours to pick everything up
3.Sure you posted firm and I made an offer any way BOO FUCKING WOO (people post firm on their price all the time but others still make offers in the hopes the seller will accept) WHICH YOU DID, by your own will.
4.Just because your price posted was a good deal and we agreed to a lower price doesn't make going back on your word any more okay. That is a lacking of integrity. Your argument is that I got a good deal anyway so it shouldn't matter if you went back on your word?! Not sure in which reality you think that is acceptable.
5.For the record I was never pushy I called you went my friend arrived and you told him that you did not have the headrests, when in reality you did, because they are clearly posted in the pics and we had agreed to them. What I did say is that you were going back on your word because you "had another buyer" and you replied with "if you want to put it like that sure"
6.It was a issue that bothered me enough to told you I did not want to do business with you but fact of the matter is my buddy did me a huge solid and I felt like a complete ass for telling him to just turn back around after sitting in traffic for almost 2 hours from LA to MoVal.....probably because I have integrity
7.You found a fellow ziner with the headrest to sell to me at more money than I had agreed to with you to be included in our entire sale. That is convenient.


I can't say this enough, it isn't about whether or not I got a good deal, it's about the fact that you reached out to me after I passed, we agreed to a price, I had someone drive almost 2 hours to get to you, and then you suddenly decide its ok to go back on your deal because you have another buyer. That's dishonest and lacks integrity.

Let me start off by apologizing for the miscommunication on my end. The other buyer hit me up the same day he was supposed to get the seats.
Now that's out the way, let me speak on my behalf. What wasn't stated was that we were going back and forth on what was going to be included for the "counter"price he came at me with. The original price was FIRM, not OBO. With that being said, he still tried to counter offer and I stated that with his counter offer I would remove the rear headrest. He claimed he didn't have a spare set and there was no agreement at the end of that day/conversation. I then hit him up a day or 2 after asking if he still was interested in the seats for his counter price and he said yes. There was miscommunication, yes I can admit to that but what I won't do is allow someone to be pushy and talk me down even lower on what is already a steal of a deal. Most people don't even get the front seats for the price he paid for both. If it was that much of an issue or bothered him that much, things could of been as simple as "I don't want to do business with this guy because I feel a certain way, and I'll leave". Leaving the seats where they were and then commenting on my business is justifiable but buying them anyways and then talking shit about the whole transaction is just ridiculous. I even found a fellow az member with the rear headrests and gave him the number to contact him at the end of all this. If you didn't like what was going on, you shoulda just left everything where it was, point blank

[itsmatt33]

I can vouch for Hightekflytech that he's not a shady guy at all. Straight up good dude. No need to bash someone in the forums. take care of that privately.

Well I can attest to a personal experience in which he was not a man of his word. And like I mentioned above I have the entire threaded text message should anyone want me to screen shot and post it up. This isn't about bashing someone on the forums bud, I tried to take care of the privately and he refused so I want to make the situation known to other members so that they can avoid running into a situation like this.

[DanKing]

Wait so you weren't scammed and still ended up with the product ... Then came here to cry about it and talk shit........

Bought serval items from HighTekFlyTech and he was more than helpful.

[itsmatt33]

Where I come from, your word is your word. I guess people these days don't stand for that anymore.

I would have told the other buyer, "sorry, there is someone else already on the way" and man up to your word.

But that's just me

The same goes for me. Your word is your bond and a measure of your integrity. And again I would have had no problem had he backed out of the deal before he knew I was coming. He asked me twice when I was coming and I told him on Monday and Weds that I would be there after 6pm on Weds. He had plenty of time to tell me he was changing his mind or he had a higher offer which makes me think there wasn't even another buyer he was just trying to get more money or keep the headrests.

[itsmatt33]

Wait so you weren't scammed and still ended up with the product ... Then came here to cry about it and talk shit........

Bought serval items from HighTekFlyTech and he was more than helpful.

you should reread and make sure that you understand what was written before commenting. Let me give the cliffnotes one more time.


An agreed price was reached
I had someone show up for pickup
he decided to keep part of the product at said price even though thats not what we had agreed to
he admitted he was going back on his word because he had another buyer
so here I am making clear of the situation

[DanKing]

you should reread and make sure that you understand what was written before commenting. Let me give the cliffnotes one more time.


An agreed price was reached
I had someone show up for pickup
he decided to keep part of the product at said price even though thats not what we had agreed to
he admitted he was going back on his word because he had another buyer
so here I am making clear of the situation

Yeah, I feel you a little but to be fair you still bought them (and seems like you got a steal) to which you could of simply told your friend to back down and leave. There was no scamming or anything involved, so to shun a member via the forum is a bit harsh . Yeah sure take it up with him directly, but a forum outburst ...not needed if you still bought the goods at the end of the day.


But since you didn't get the rear head rest, good excuse to get some b7 head rest ;)

[axnjaksn]

I'm gonna drop my. 02 cents, to the OP... I too know the seller, good dood in my opinion. As for the sale/purchase of items, it's not a mortgage contract... He who shows up with cash and what's agreed to in person is about as solid as anyone gets, sure it would be nice to "keep your word" but what you thought and what he said seem like 2 completely different things. Plus you still bought the seats at a pretty good deal from what I can gather, so where exactly where you scammed?? Take it to the judge, with know signed agreed notarized contract... They will laugh and say NEXT. As for the crying on the forum, please take that up with the seller personally. I would look at the public bashing on a forum as worse than anything that happened between you and the seller.

[Furly]

[itsmatt33]

I'm gonna drop my. 02 cents, to the OP... I too know the seller, good dood in my opinion. As for the sale/purchase of items, it's not a mortgage contract... He who shows up with cash and what's agreed to in person is about as solid as anyone gets, sure it would be nice to "keep your word" but what you thought and what he said seem like 2 completely different things. Plus you still bought the seats at a pretty good deal from what I can gather, so where exactly where you scammed?? Take it to the judge, with know signed agreed notarized contract... They will laugh and say NEXT. As for the crying on the forum, please take that up with the seller personally. I would look at the public bashing on a forum as worse than anything that happened between you and the seller.

Again for clarification, never once did I say that I got scammed. My main and pretty much only gripe was that the seller decided not to keep his word. And I think it's clear that he understood exactly what I meant because he openly said that he was going back on the deal because "he had another buyer and it's still a good deal." Ya I still got a good deal, but that is not really the point, the point is that if you are going to make a deal then be a man of your word, otherwise at least tell me before I have someone make an almost 2 hour drive with the reliance of an agreed upon price. Sure what is final is what happens in person, but the drive down was made in reliance of an already agreed upon deal. This is not crying on the forum merely making the situation publicly known, like I said I tried to take this up with the seller and he was not willing to rectify the situation.

If people truly believe there was no wrongdoing by the seller then my "public bashing" (even though thats not what it is) wouldn't really matter would it because no one would agree or pay it any mind. But people do agree that was not a way to handle a transaction. Simply put.

[ToddBrunswick]

Take it to the judge, with know signed agreed notarized contract... They will laugh and say NEXT.

No dog in the fight, but to be clear, a contract does not need to be notarized, signed, or even necessarily in writing to be enforceable. Judges can and do enforce verbal contracts (depending on the type of contract as there are specific rules regarding what types of contracts are required by law to be in writing).

With that being said, if everything happened as described by OP, it would probably be a breach of a verbal contract (assuming the purchase price was less than $500).

[itsmatt33]

No dog in the fight, but to be clear, a contract does not need to be notarized, signed, or even necessarily in writing to be enforceable. Judges can and do enforce verbal contracts (depending on the type of contract as there are specific rules regarding what types of contracts are required by law to be in writing).

With that being said, if everything happened as described by OP, it would probably be a breach of a verbal contract (assuming the purchase price was less than $500).

thus a breach invoking damages of reliance, restitution, and/or expectation. Looks like someone also paid attention in 1L contracts class haha. Totally making me assume you also attended/attend law school.


Anyway, it is not anywhere serious enough to be a legal issue nor do I want it to be, just merely voicing something that happened that I felt wasn't okay.

[ToddBrunswick]

thus a breach invoking damages of reliance, restitution, and/or expectation. Looks like someone also paid attention in 1L contracts class haha. Totally making me assume you also attended/attend law school.


Anyway, it is not anywhere serious enough to be a legal issue nor do I want it to be, just merely voicing something that happened that I felt wasn't okay.

I may or may not have a very expensive piece of paper sitting in a frame in a box in my garage.

[RAudi Driver]

I think you need to post up the text where he called you back and accepted your counter offer with Headrests included. That's where the miscommunication occurred. If the headrests were included with the sale, then all would have been good. You need to post up that bit of information and we'll let you know who is in the right.

On another note, I've driven to San Francisco to buy a car only to have the dealer call me within 30 minutes of arriving at the dealership telling me that car just sold. That a world of hurt and the way the car business is. Forum transactions usually go a little smoother due to the nature of us enthusiasts but the car business mentality still comes out in some of us. Seller could have been a little more transparent.

Post up that SH*T


And for a side note, those seats are beat to hell. I would not have paid $500 for them. Upper and lower skins for the front are $1,460 per seat. You'l spend another $3,000 trying to get them right when you could have just gone out and bought a better set. I know you Matt, so no hard feelings, I'm just really OCD, they may work just fine for your purpose.

[itsmatt33]

I think you need to post up the text where he called you back and accepted your counter offer with Headrests included. That's where the miscommunication occurred. If the headrests were included with the sale, then all would have been good. You need to post up that bit of information and we'll let you know who is in the right.

On another note, I've driven to San Francisco to buy a car only to have the dealer call me within 30 minutes of arriving at the dealership telling me that car just sold. That a world of hurt and the way the car business is. Forum transactions usually go a little smoother due to the nature of us enthusiasts but the car business mentality still comes out in some of us. Seller could have been a little more transparent.

Post up that SH*T


And for a side note, those seats are beat to hell. I would not have paid $500 for them. Upper and lower skins for the front are $1,460 per seat. You'l spend another $3,000 trying to get them right when you could have just gone out and bought a better set. I know you Matt, so no hard feelings, I'm just really OCD, they may work just fine for your purpose.

That is super shitty, did you have the option to put a deposit down before you went out to SF? And yes, thats the way the cookie crumbles but I have come to expect a different approach of these things by fellow AZers. Everyone saying the same thing I am, all I wanted was more transparency or at least notice before I had someone go and get them.

LOL you do know me so you should know these are NOT going in the b6 (that bad boy already has sportster cs and recaro rear, all leather, check your PMs), I will say though that they are not as beat as you think. They are dirty as shit though and so I am going to have a detailer friend steam the hell out of them and shave the alcantara fuzz.

[itsmatt33]

and i forgot to mention the rear armrest is broken, buddy didnt realize until the seats were back in LA, but thats on me.

[axnjaksn]

No dog in the fight, but to be clear, a contract does not need to be notarized, signed, or even necessarily in writing to be enforceable. Judges can and do enforce verbal contracts (depending on the type of contract as there are specific rules regarding what types of contracts are required by law to be in writing).

With that being said, if everything happened as described by OP, it would probably be a breach of a verbal contract (assuming the purchase price was less than $500).

thanks for being the internet attorney, you are correct in a verbal contract being a binding contract and enforceable, however if there is no evidence to support the claims to the verbal agreement, or text form to support, then its all heresay...am I wrong, plus there is the amount to which the product was purchased, making this a total waste of time and just someone wanting to complain about a bad experience....
all good tho, Im sure the OP is a good dood, im just standing for my friend, who has never done a bad thing to me or the people I know. OP maybe next time take into account that if you cannot resolve the issue with the seller prior to purchase, don't buy the product, or if the terms are not to your liking and you buy the product anyways, know that its used and that's the deal you get...own up to your mistake of purchasing the product minus what you would liked to have had included....does this make any sense??

I don't want to sound like another jerk on here going off on tangents, but if I didn't like the deal and bought something anyways, I guess that would be my mistake....

which, btw, has happened before, I have all kinds of THINGs in my possession that I don't need and should not have bought...oh well

ok, im done letting the BS fly out through my finger tips and on to the keyboard

[Cameron_]

Does anybody else find this thread hilarious ?

[G.AUDI]

Shameless plug : I have Recaro rear headrests if still interested.