B8 S4 vs. Jaguar XE R-Sport

[truethat72]

I just test drove the new Jaguar XE R-Sport in v6 with 340 hp supercharged engine and I would have to say it was quick. It felt quicker than my S4 and the power was instant. I like the gear ratio better in the Jag but interior has nothing to desire for. And engine note sucks in the Jag. Surprised consider the F-Type's exhaust is awesome.

Has anyone driven the XE to compare?


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[jwallace0988]

I'll be test driving one within the next week, I have an extended family member who works for Jag and was like come by ill give you the keys to whatever you want!!! I'll report back :)


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[AKPS4]

Someone else just made this move on these forums. He posted info up. I built one online just for the heck of it and it's pretty impressive for the cost.

No idea what the aftermarket community is like for jags though.

[adamkb26]

I test drove one a week ago. It was pretty impressive and fun to drive but it's not faster. If anything it's a touch slower. Handling was impressive, but I'm not sure I like the interior more than the S4. It's a new model and a jaguar so I'm a little afraid of reliability of the early models.

[JWreck]

We drove the XE in Dallas at an Autocross track jaguar set up when they launched it. It was quick, but felt a little loose at speed, didn't have a lot of confidence in the steering.

Also, mfr ratings show 0-60 times as 4.9 and 5.1 for the S4 and XE respectively. So on paper it's not as quick and we know Audi is for sure conservative, I'm sure jaguar is too but by how much?

And I actually thought stock for stock the XE had a better sound than the S4 on the outside (no electronical sound piping inside).

Agreed on the interior.

[JWreck]

Here's a video on the track just at the start. I'm filming it from a good distance away while my wife and the instructor took a spin through.




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[JWreck]

Oh and just so you know that I'm not biased, we own the new F Pace SUV in the S trim. So it's a 50/50 opinion. :)


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[Thurston]

I really like the body style of the jag xe-r, it seems like a bigger body b8 to me and I love that they supercharged. Other than that surface level vanity, i know nothing aout the xe-r.

[JWreck]

It also frustrates me that they didn't put the 380hp in it, not that it's a noticeable difference.

[truethat72]

I guess the only way is to put the S4 and XE on a track to find out.


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[truethat72]

I test drove one a week ago. It was pretty impressive and fun to drive but it's not faster. If anything it's a touch slower. Handling was impressive, but I'm not sure I like the interior more than the S4. It's a new model and a jaguar so I'm a little afraid of reliability of the early models.

I felt the down shift for more power seems to happen quicker than the DSG in the S4.


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[JWreck]

I felt the down shift for more power seems to happen quicker than the DSG in the S4.


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I believe the XE uses the ZF 8 speed which is a very quick transmission now.


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[Thurston]

I believe the XE uses the ZF 8 speed which is a very quick transmission now.


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Yes that is correct, and with every car being made in the universe it seems - You'll find the zf8hp - Audi Truth in Outsourcing.

[MrFunk]

Jag interiors have not been great the last decade (or more). They make good engines though and comfortable handling. I grew up around jags and have always loved the old ones (more love hate), but to me they seemed to have lost something. Only the F-Type "has" it for me. The rest are just too vanilla.

[blackfunk]

Here's a video on the track just at the start. I'm filming it from a good distance away while my wife and the instructor took a spin through.




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Assuming that's the stock exhaust - I think it actually sounds damn good. Better than a stock S4 (been awhile since I've heard stock) IMHO

[JWreck]

Assuming that's the stock exhaust - I think it actually sounds damn good. Better than a stock S4 (been awhile since I've heard stock) IMHO

I'd be surprised if it wasn't stock. This was an event put on by Jaguar North America, not any local dealer.


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[Dr GP]

I believe the XE uses the ZF 8 speed which is a very quick transmission now.


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Jaguar has promised a 6MT will be available, but non have materialized. If it were available, it would make the Jag more desireable than a B9 S4 for me.

[truethat72]

I believe the XE uses the ZF 8 speed which is a very quick transmission now.


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That would make sense.


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[JWreck]

Even in the F Pace the shifts are super quick. The "butt dyno" says that it's even comparable to my DSG.


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[Loe]

Assuming that's the stock exhaust - I think it actually sounds damn good. Better than a stock S4 (been awhile since I've heard stock) IMHO

I've heard one in person, it sounds pretty good. Here is another video of the exhaust, it's substantially louder compared to our stock S4/S5's

[JWreck]

I've heard one in person, it sounds pretty good. Here is another video of the exhaust, it's substantially louder compared to our stock S4/S5's

Yeah! Jaguar knows how to make a nice sounding car - even their quieter models sound nice. Especially disappointed that Audi didn't step up their game in that area with the new B9 S4/S5.


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[S4 00 2.7]

I believe the XE uses the ZF 8 speed which is a very quick transmission now.


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so it was never fast to you until now? I've been driving BMWs with the ZF 8-speed transmission for the last few years (2013) and they have never been slow.

[JWreck]

so it was never fast to you until now? I've been driving BMWs with the ZF 8-speed transmission for the last few years (2013) and they have never been slow.

I didn't mean to insinuate that. I've not really driven many cars with that transmission, so your experience is probably broader than mine.

My comparison is to the DSG that I drive daily, and they are both very fast.




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[S4 00 2.7]

I didn't mean to insinuate that. I've not really driven many cars with that transmission, so your experience is probably broader than mine.

My comparison is to the DSG that I drive daily, and they are both very fast.




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and that's the very thing I wanted to bring up in discussion. I think most people will like the new 8-speed the s4 is getting. thanks for speaking of your experience.

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[Razza1]

I've found the jag box quicker and smoother than the Audi tbh


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[JWreck]

I've found the jag box quicker and smoother than the Audi tbh


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I can definitely agree with smoother! I like the quirkiness of the DSG though. At least while it's still under warranty. May like it less once that's gone....


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[Razza1]

I can definitely agree with smoother! I like the quirkiness of the DSG though. At least while it's still under warranty. May like it less once that's gone....


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I certainly did like it less :(


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[truethat72]

Those 20" wheels look awesome though in the XE


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[truethat72]

Back to the transmission. The gear seems to hold a little longer before it shifts up when I was not even pushing it which I liked better. I thought in the S4 the gear shifts up too early even in dynamic mode unless I'm flooring it.


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[RudyH]

I would definitely take a XE R Sport over the new B9 S4 for the money
Simply on brand alone. Over the decades the brand was always in that 'upper' crust it seemed vs the generic BMW / Audi / Mercedes products to me anyway.

Kind of like a Jaguar / Maserati vs what everyone else buys. That's maybe why I fell for Audi, it was BMW (generic cheap lease payment, as that's what people can afford) vs Audi

[moose_head]

Simply on brand alone. Over the decades the brand was always in that 'upper' crust it seemed vs the generic BMW / Audi / Mercedes products to me anyway.
Kind of like a Jaguar / Maserati vs what everyone else buys.

Sure, but now those are parts of such prestigious companies as Tata Motors of India, and Fiat-Chrysler. Total badge engineering!! (jk)

[truethat72]

I would definitely take a XE R Sport over the new B9 S4 for the money
Simply on brand alone. Over the decades the brand was always in that 'upper' crust it seemed vs the generic BMW / Audi / Mercedes products to me anyway.

Kind of like a Jaguar / Maserati vs what everyone else buys. That's maybe why I fell for Audi, it was BMW (generic cheap lease payment, as that's what people can afford) vs Audi

I am not sure I would. The Audi interior is far more superior than the Jag.


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[JWreck]

I am not sure I would. The Audi interior is far more superior than the Jag.


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I do have to agree with this. MOST of the interior of our F Pace is good quality, but there's definitely some components that I've questioned their decision on use and placement....


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