1st Drag Strip Visit with My B8.5 S4.

[KnewJack]

Just bought this S4 2 days ago. I discuss that here http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ined-The-Club!. Question is with the mods that were on the car when I bought it, was it flashed too? I went to the track for some baseline runs and to find out.

1st pass I ran hot off the street. Went through tech where they informed me that I can't run my car with antifreeze in it, only water. Ive been going to this track for almost 20 years and this is the 1st they ever Teched that, especially on a car that is clearly a street car. he said I could run this time. Anyway 1st pass I ran no cool down just right up to through staging lanes. No launch control just mash and go from idle.



So not bad, quicker than I expected. My assometer told me it was a mid 13sec car tops at 103 or so. So pleasantly surprised.

Run 2, no cool down I just jumped back in the lanes and this time tried launch control. I'm in the right lane (4077)



Car was obviously heat soaked and I could feel it falling flat on the big end.

Run 3 I let the car cool down for about 20-25 minutes and tried again with launch control. SC was still very hot to the touch.



A slight improvement and it felt better up top. Ambient air temp was 100dg according to my OBDII app. Could not measure IAT, but I'm sure they were high. DA was 1434ft with 84% humidity. Pretty suck air for this area. I got ready to make a 4th run and let the car cool for 30min. The SC was still very warm to touch, but not blazing like previous runs. Just when I got to the staging lanes it started to rain. Dammit!

Overall the car performed better than expected. Question, with this MPH does it appear the car is running some kind of tune? I think I've heard of completely stock cars running 107mph give or take. With some decent air and cool down time she may trap 110-112 maybe. Also what is the best cool down for in between runs? Should I let it idle for a while after running so coolant can circulate through the ICs? or just shut it off and pop the hood which is what I did for the last run. All input welcome!

[rs4dreams]

Given the really hot ambient temperature and overall mediocre DA, it would appear that your car is running a tune, but probably not a pulley. A 109 trap isn't happening stock, even in good conditions.

[AFR1485]

Great results! Your car seems to be stock to me. I ran mine a few months back and got similar results (105.44 mph). Did you weigh the car that day? I weighed in at 4155.

[cspcrx]

12.8s and 109 mph sounds like stage one. That's a strong mph under those conditions.

[KnewJack]

Great results! Your car seems to be stock to me. I ran mine a few months back and got similar results (105.44 mph). Did you weigh the car that day? I weighed in at 4155.

That's a great time bone stock. I have an exhaust which may or may not add power. I wanted to weight car but the scale was either off or not working as I got no read out. I'm 240lbs so I'm guessing race weight is 42xx. Is there a way for me to find out if it has been flashed?

[RWD2quattro]

Looks like you have a STG-1 tune of some sort, big brakes and exhaust, nice run

[bmoreS4]

Looks like you have a STG-1 tune of some sort, big brakes and exhaust, nice run

No it doesn't, 13.0 ish is stock.

[bhvrdr]

No it doesn't, 13.0 ish is stock.

109 mph is not stock. Stage 1 seems right.

op, I'd start with calling apr and then giac to see if they did the tune. Give them your vin.

Mike

[cobrario]

109 mph is not stock. Stage 1 seems right.

op, I'd start with calling apr and then giac to see if they did the tune. Give them your vin.

Mike

Agreed, no way 109 trap in last nights conditions is stock. See if Chantilly has Carfax, might tell where the car came from, can then check shops local to that area to see what tunes they offer. Otherwise Mike's suggestion of checking the 2 big players with your VIN is the next step, then working your way down the list of smaller tuners. Good luck -

[k9lovr]

109 mph is not stock. Stage 1 seems right.

op, I'd start with calling apr and then giac to see if they did the tune. Give them your vin.

Mike

+1...I ran 12.9 stock but it was not at 109 and in better conditions DA wise...solid run given the DA though

[adamtc4]

Chantilly, VA? I'm in falls church. Which track did you hit up? I've been looking to go. I've got EPL stg 1.


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[KnewJack]

Chantilly, VA? I'm in falls church. Which track did you hit up? I've been looking to go. I've got EPL stg 1.


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I went to my local track Capitol Raceway. MIR is a much better track but an hour from me. I will contact APR and GIAC. Also want to look into a DSG tune. Launch control is at the stock 3500rpm and it shifts at about 5800 rpm. Does revving higher have any benefits or will the bypass valve just bleed off whatever extra boost is created with the faster spinning SC? Also what does everyone use for logging?

[14S4GWM]

Gotta get a ross tech cable for logging, heres a thread for you.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...rmance-Logging

[RWD2quattro]

109 mph is not stock. Stage 1 seems right.
Mike

Exactly my point, thanks.

[KnewJack]

Gotta get a ross tech cable for logging, heres a thread for you.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...rmance-Logging

Thanks! On the carfax it says The brake pads were replaced at 15k miles at a place called NGP Racing http://www.ngpracing.com/home/?cat=14 and it seems they installed the big brake kit. They sell AWE products among other things so going to give them a call Tuesday to see if I can trace some history. Thinking they did the tune as well.

[Low Flyer]

Chantilly, VA? I'm in falls church. Which track did you hit up? I've been looking to go. I've got EPL stg 1.


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Hey, I am local as well! I'm hitting up MIR friday. My car is a B8 I ran a [email protected] stock at Capitol Raceway. I have had my car scanned at the dealer, called APR, GIAC and EPL...no tune on my ecu...I am aiming to run 12.7 stock you guys should come.

[chaos2984]

I went to my local track Capitol Raceway. MIR is a much better track but an hour from me. I will contact APR and GIAC. Also want to look into a DSG tune. Launch control is at the stock 3500rpm and it shifts at about 5800 rpm. Does revving higher have any benefits or will the bypass valve just bleed off whatever extra boost is created with the faster spinning SC? Also what does everyone use for logging?

Really since when did capital only want water only. When did you run on the weekend? Maybe on the weekends they want water. But I can't see they want water on a friday. That would turn away all their business. Thats the first I've head of that. Where you live OP. Im just in the GB/Pasadena area. Id like to take mine sometime

[KnewJack]

Really since when did capital only want water only. When did you run on the weekend? Maybe on the weekends they want water. But I can't see they want water on a friday. That would turn away all their business. Thats the first I've head of that. Where you live OP. Im just in the GB/Pasadena area. Id like to take mine sometime

This was the 1st time in my 20 year history with them that they Teched me on that. This was also my 1st trip there this year and they are under new ownership , but I think this owner had been in place the last few years. Pretty stupid if you ask me. This was Friday Test N Tune.

MIR sounds good. I thought their TNT was on Wed?

[ptper]

Thanks! On the carfax it says The brake pads were replaced at 15k miles at a place called NGP Racing http://www.ngpracing.com/home/?cat=14 and it seems they installed the big brake kit. They sell AWE products among other things so going to give them a call Tuesday to see if I can trace some history. Thinking they did the tune as well.

NGP is an APR dealer for tunes.

There used to be an old thread in the Mid-Atlantic for folks who would gtg on Fridays for Captiol's TNT. Kinda died as the DA's went up. A friend is doing an all-day rental at MIR this fall...those always a good time (and value...no waiting!)

[GT-R & S4]

Just bought this S4 2 days ago. I discuss that here http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ined-The-Club!. Question is with the mods that were on the car when I bought it, was it flashed too? I went to the track for some baseline runs and to find out.

1st pass I ran hot off the street. Went through tech where they informed me that I can't run my car with antifreeze in it, only water. Ive been going to this track for almost 20 years and this is the 1st they ever Teched that, especially on a car that is clearly a street car. he said I could run this time. Anyway 1st pass I ran no cool down just right up to through staging lanes. No launch control just mash and go from idle.



So not bad, quicker than I expected. My assometer told me it was a mid 13sec car tops at 103 or so. So pleasantly surprised.

Run 2, no cool down I just jumped back in the lanes and this time tried launch control. I'm in the right lane (4077)



Car was obviously heat soaked and I could feel it falling flat on the big end.

Run 3 I let the car cool down for about 20-25 minutes and tried again with launch control. SC was still very hot to the touch.



A slight improvement and it felt better up top. Ambient air temp was 100dg according to my OBDII app. Could not measure IAT, but I'm sure they were high. DA was 1434ft with 84% humidity. Pretty suck air for this area. I got ready to make a 4th run and let the car cool for 30min. The SC was still very warm to touch, but not blazing like previous runs. Just when I got to the staging lanes it started to rain. Dammit!

Overall the car performed better than expected. Question, with this MPH does it appear the car is running some kind of tune? I think I've heard of completely stock cars running 107mph give or take. With some decent air and cool down time she may trap 110-112 maybe. Also what is the best cool down for in between runs? Should I let it idle for a while after running so coolant can circulate through the ICs? or just shut it off and pop the hood which is what I did for the last run. All input welcome!

What ran the 10.893 1/4 @ 123.29?

[KnewJack]

What ran the 10.893 1/4 @ 123.29?

It was big slick 197x Chevy Vega. I used to cut 1.5 60fts all the time In my AWD Eagle Talon and ran a similar time, though my MPH 128-130.

[KnewJack]

So I called NGP in Va who previously worked on this car and they looked up the history. Apparently they did an APR stage 2 upgrade on the car. If that is the case I'm pretty disappointed. I was hoping maybe stage 1 tops with the trap speeds. Seems awful slow for a stage 2 car. Unfortunately the car is at the dealer now having a Cat replaced under warranty so I can't go measure the SC pulley. Thoughts?

I wonder if somehow the dealer flashed it back to stock and maybe the extra MPH is from the pulley?

[fitzydude]

So I called NGP in Va who previously worked on this car and they looked up the history. Apparently they did an APR stage 2 upgrade on the car. If that is the case I'm pretty disappointed. I was hoping maybe stage 1 tops with the trap speeds. Seems awful slow for a stage 2 car. Unfortunately the car is at the dealer now having a Cat replaced under warranty so I can't go measure the SC pulley. Thought?

Its probably the old version of the file which wasn't that great. See if you can get upgraded to V3. Or maybe its just the bad cat :)

[14S4GWM]

So I called NGP in Va who previously worked on this car and they looked up the history. Apparently they did an APR stage 2 upgrade on the car. If that is the case I'm pretty disappointed. I was hoping maybe stage 1 tops with the trap speeds. Seems awful slow for a stage 2 car. Unfortunately the car is at the dealer now having a Cat replaced under warranty so I can't go measure the SC pulley. Thought?

So your at the dealer now getting warranty work and it's flashed stage 2?

[KnewJack]

Its probably the old version of the file which wasn't that great. See if you can get upgraded to V3. Or maybe its just the bad cat :)

Just talked to NGP again and I'm going to go by there when I get the car back and do the warranty transfer and they will check the flash and re flash if necessary. I don't know if the car was clogged, it just blew out on me. Tech said it broke at the weld and they have to get another one from Germany. This happened back on the 4th so I haven't had it all week, having withdraw symptoms. Lol

[KnewJack]

Yeah I just bought it. They told me it was not flashed when they sold it and I just found out the contrary, so I don't think they want to go down that road.