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    VMR V710 19x9.5 vs 19x8.5

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    So I've decided on buying V710s... Im wondering the pros and cons of each width.

    I've read a couple threads that asked a similar question and most guys liked the 19x9.5 better for aesthetic reasons.

    But I wanted to add that I spoke to a wheel vendor and he said to go with 19x8.5 because the 19x9.5 would poke out and rub - and that I would have to do fender/tire modification.

    Can anyone comment on this? How noticeably different is the extra width?

    For reference I'm also putting on coils

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    What offsets are you trying to compare? What tire are you planning on running? There is a great sticky thread about wheel fitment that you should look through as there are a lot of pics of various set-up so you should even be able to find examples of what you are looking for. Oh and also your suspension will play a roll in the look so if you are lowered then the wheels will tuck more. Be mindful of that when looking at others pic/posts so you know exactly what you are looking at.

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    I'll get this started, as I was just having my own discussion in my head when I ordered wheels a couple weeks back. With 9.5, you'll have better road grip, as there's greater surface area gripping the road. Your wheels will also appear more concave (can also be completely based on design too), which some people like. Some people prefer a more flush look.

    From what I've read, you'll have slightly better maneuverability with 8.5's, whereas the trade off for wider tires is better grip/traction. I ended up going with 8.5's, so I can't comment on the difference. Just the due diligence I did on my end.
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    I have no issues rubbing on my setup. I run 255's however so if you get 265's I think I heard it will rub.
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    i have these wheels in a staggered set up 19x8.5 in the front and 19x9.5 in the rear I run 235/35/19's all the way around, this is on a b6 and 19x9.5 sit flush with the fender and the front could use about 10mm spacers or bit smaller. I have no complaints about the way the wheels sit, my car is very low and I have no rubbing in the back and I have about an inch of clearance between the rim and the fender. I rub on the front sometimes but it's because the tires that I ordered, I should of ordered 235/25's for the front to give it the stretch that the rear has. I would put pics up but I'm out of town and I don't have any pics with me. As for the with they are pretty wide and it looks great from the back. I rolled the fenders myself but honestly didn't really have to and I also had to cut a section of the liner in the rear wells just so I could sit so low. But if you want a conservative drop I don't think you're going to have to do any of this.

    this is the site that I used to compare the sizes in tires and so on and I actually took measurements myself to make sure that I getting all the numbers correct. http://www.willtheyfit.com/#isPage=1

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    I'm working almost 70 hours a week and admittedly know nothing about wheel fitment. Apologies in advance - if it seems like I'm trying to take the shortcut to learning this stuff, it's because I am.

    That wheel/tire thread would be helpful I'm sure; I'll see if I can learn what I need to through there.

    I live in South Florida so I think I could get away with pretty thin tires. I want to lower the car in the front as much as possible without having to do camber, huge fender mods, anything significant etc. not sure about spacers. I want to leave the back a little taller to get that rake

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    quick google search for reference of approximately what i'm going for. not sure how realistic it is to achieve that kind of stance without significant upgrades. doesnt have to be quite that low

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    What offsets are you trying to compare? What tire are you planning on running?
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    if you want rub free on coils do not get the 9.5

    to be conservative go with 19x8.5 et45, should be rub free with your drop.

    I ran vmr 710's in 19x9.5 et33 and it did not rub at the stock ride height. Now running 19x9.5 et35 lowered and it only will rub in the rear if I hit a really really big bump above 40mph. But for how I use my car (drag racing) it does not rub. I wouldn't run the 9.5's if I had to do any high speed cornering

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    Granted its an 8V A3 - you can read my specific thread about the wheels here - http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...0-Review-8V-A3

    Im running a 19x8.5 et 35 with 235/35/19s. Fits perfectly flush for my car with KW V1 Coils. Keep in mind this is a smaller car - but i do get occasional rubbing in the front on very aggressive turns or when all 4 seats are being used in the car. Theres probably about a half inch gap front and back, and the fenders have not been rolled.

    I would assume you could run the 9.5s no problem, but thats an assumption and I do not know nearly as much about the specs on this platform
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmomo313 View Post
    if you want rub free on coils do not get the 9.5

    to be conservative go with 19x8.5 et45, should be rub free with your drop.

    I ran vmr 710's in 19x9.5 et33 and it did not rub at the stock ride height. Now running 19x9.5 et35 lowered and it only will rub in the rear if I hit a really really big bump above 40mph. But for how I use my car (drag racing) it does not rub. I wouldn't run the 9.5's if I had to do any high speed cornering
    did you mean you're now running 19x8.5 lowered? if you're running 19x9.5 lowered then why are you recommending against your set up? I guess occasional rubbing is fine, just nothing too detrimental

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcbar58 View Post
    did you mean you're now running 19x8.5 lowered? if you're running 19x9.5 lowered then why are you recommending against your set up? I guess occasional rubbing is fine, just nothing too detrimental

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    Hey guys thank you all for your replies. incredibly helpful

    Well, I recommended against it because your OP said no rubbing lol. But, if a little is fine then go for it. I don't think you'll like it though if you plan to do hard cornering with the car. It's perfect for drag racing though

    Currently 19x9.5 et35 lowered on HR coils

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    With the V710, you're looking at either 19x9.5" ET45 or 19x8.5" ET35. As far as the wheel fitment, both will fit fine with no rubbing, etc.

    I think it just comes down to a matter of looks and what you prefer. If you don't plan to lower your car, the 8.5" wheel is a better option with 255/35 tires. Less stretch on the tire looks a lot better at stock height. I don't typically recommend over a 9" wheel at stock height and the standard 255/35 tires.

    If you are going to lower your car, the slightly more aggressive look of the 9.5" wheel and stretched tire can look just fine if that is what you are after. In this case, as long as you are OK with the stretched tire and less protection for the wheel, go for it. The 9.5" ET45 would also allow you to go up to a 265/35 tire for a meatier look too....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jran76 View Post
    With the V710, you're looking at either 19x9.5" ET45 or 19x8.5" ET35. As far as the wheel fitment, both will fit fine with no rubbing, etc.

    I think it just comes down to a matter of looks and what you prefer. If you don't plan to lower your car, the 8.5" wheel is a better option with 255/35 tires. Less stretch on the tire looks a lot better at stock height. I don't typically recommend over a 9" wheel at stock height and the standard 255/35 tires.

    If you are going to lower your car, the slightly more aggressive look of the 9.5" wheel and stretched tire can look just fine if that is what you are after. In this case, as long as you are OK with the stretched tire and less protection for the wheel, go for it. The 9.5" ET45 would also allow you to go up to a 265/35 tire for a meatier look too....
    Enter the wheel fitment guru. I'd follow this advice.

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    I've seen this retro fit. The 19" X 8.5" ET35 is a VERY common wheel/offset on the B7. I actually sold my old B7 wheels (that size and centerbore) to a B8S4 guy. In my opinion, the wheel just didn't hit right on the B8. It REALLY needed a minimum of a 5-8mm spacer to make it look right with that width.

    Now, on the other hand, the 19X9.5 with an ET45 will be nailed pretty close, and shouldn't rub.

    Right now, I run a 19X9.5 with an ET40, and run a 255/35 tire. The amount of stretch allows me to get away with the width/offset. With a 19X9.5 at ET45, you could probably get away with a 265, and run more "meat," if you wanted too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jran76 View Post
    With the V710, you're looking at either 19x9.5" ET45 or 19x8.5" ET35. As far as the wheel fitment, both will fit fine with no rubbing, etc.

    I think it just comes down to a matter of looks and what you prefer. If you don't plan to lower your car, the 8.5" wheel is a better option with 255/35 tires. Less stretch on the tire looks a lot better at stock height. I don't typically recommend over a 9" wheel at stock height and the standard 255/35 tires.

    If you are going to lower your car, the slightly more aggressive look of the 9.5" wheel and stretched tire can look just fine if that is what you are after. In this case, as long as you are OK with the stretched tire and less protection for the wheel, go for it. The 9.5" ET45 would also allow you to go up to a 265/35 tire for a meatier look too....
    Perfect response. Thanks a ton. I'm gonna go with the 9.5" width. What size tires would be best if I'm trying to make it about as low as possible without camber/significant fender modification? (If that really even has anything to do with it) 255/35?

    Again apologies, I haven't found the time to browse through the wheel fitment thread. I'm sure this has been repeated ad naseum but I might as well ask since the thread is already up

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    19x9.5 et35
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    @rwtzero what wheel is that? And where was it purchased?


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    i ran VMR 19x9.5 et 35 on 255 PSS's with no rub on H&R OE's
    i now run 19x8.5 et 35 on 255 PSS's with no rub on H&R OE's
    i miss the stanced look of the VMR's but happy the stretched-tire look is gone. a worthy trade off in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysOntheGo View Post
    @rwtzero what wheel is that? And where was it purchased?


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    http://www.velocitymotoring.com/wheels/v706/

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    Thanks a lot!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KRp220 View Post
    i ran VMR 19x9.5 et 35 on 255 PSS's with no rub on H&R OE's
    i now run 19x8.5 et 35 on 255 PSS's with no rub on H&R OE's
    i miss the stanced look of the VMR's but happy the stretched-tire look is gone. a worthy trade off in my opinion.
    thats just my 2 cents!
    Did you need to run spacers with 19x9.5 et35 for the brakes or do they clear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirbs69 View Post
    Did you need to run spacers with 19x9.5 et35 for the brakes or do they clear?
    No, they fit fine without spacers


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    Thx!!
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    My car looks similar to the one in your pic

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