WTS ChipWerke Pro

[Goodforyou19]

Looking to sell my Chipwerke Pro. It was on a 2015 S4. I purchased this from another forum member a couple weeks ago, installed it, and decided to go a different route. I believe when I bought it, it had been used for about 5000 miles. I personally used it for a total of 200 miles.
Looking to sell it for $360 Shipped.

[chopz33]

Any issues with it? Throw any codes?

[Goodforyou19]

Nope, works perfectly fine. Settings are currently 5-1. Works well with 91 octane. Can bump it up to 6-1 if you are able to get 93, or an E85 mix.
Just make sure to follow the instructions of keeping the key away from the car for 5-10 minutes so the ECU fully shuts off.
Also, the custom service rep there was amazing. They'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have, and also reprogram the chip for free (plus shipping back to you).

[wtfwill]

what kind of numbers are you making? i've got access to 93 year round.. curious what this is like versus getting it tuned for probably about 2x the cost.

[mintytoo]

Int, check your PM.

[Goodforyou19]

I did not personally dyno the car with the chipwerke, but I could definitely feel a difference with the tune installed. If I had to make a guess, it was probably pushing 370-375, but I also do have an intake and an exhaust, so take that number with a grain of salt. A forum member did a pretty good write up of Chipwerke vs. APR stage 1 HERE
What I can say about the tune is that if you are still under warranty, and don't really want to void it, but are looking for a quick/cost effective way to get a bit more power out of your car, then chipwerke is probably the route you want to go. However, if you are out of warranty, and want to really push the car, and get things such as a pulley, stage 2, intercooler, etc., and have the funds for that, then just go straight to the ECU tune rather than tinkering with a piggyback.

[wtfwill]

I did not personally dyno the car with the chipwerke, but I could definitely feel a difference with the tune installed. If I had to make a guess, it was probably pushing 370-375, but I also do have an intake and an exhaust, so take that number with a grain of salt. A forum member did a pretty good write up of Chipwerke vs. APR stage 1 HERE
What I can say about the tune is that if you are still under warranty, and don't really want to void it, but are looking for a quick/cost effective way to get a bit more power out of your car, then chipwerke is probably the route you want to go. However, if you are out of warranty, and want to really push the car, and get things such as a pulley, stage 2, intercooler, etc., and have the funds for that, then just go straight to the ECU tune rather than tinkering with a piggyback.

thank you, i was looking for some personal feedback. i appreciate the info!

[DannyDeez]

I did not personally dyno the car with the chipwerke, but I could definitely feel a difference with the tune installed. If I had to make a guess, it was probably pushing 370-375, but I also do have an intake and an exhaust, so take that number with a grain of salt. A forum member did a pretty good write up of Chipwerke vs. APR stage 1 HERE
What I can say about the tune is that if you are still under warranty, and don't really want to void it, but are looking for a quick/cost effective way to get a bit more power out of your car, then chipwerke is probably the route you want to go. However, if you are out of warranty, and want to really push the car, and get things such as a pulley, stage 2, intercooler, etc., and have the funds for that, then just go straight to the ECU tune rather than tinkering with a piggyback.

Careful with that statement. Audi can tell if you have a piggyback box as well now.

[NastyNogaro]

Careful with that statement. Audi can tell if you have a piggyback box as well now.

Really? I was interested in the Chipwerke for warranty reasons (I'm only at 4k miles) but not if this is true. Can you elaborate a little more? How can they tell? This is sad news for those of us who want to mod with a warranty

[mintytoo]

Do you mean if you leave it attached while getting serviced or even if you take it off, they can still detect it somehow?

[DannyDeez]

Really? I was interested in the Chipwerke for warranty reasons (I'm only at 4k miles) but not if this is true. Can you elaborate a little more? How can they tell? This is sad news for those of us who want to mod with a warranty

Do you mean if you leave it attached while getting serviced or even if you take it off, they can still detect it somehow?

Even if you take it off. They even gave it its own code "TB1". This was posted by EPL and its an Audi service bulletin:

[mintytoo]

I see, "suspected tuning with tuning box." Wow, I've been reading about the CW pro and tuning, must have missed this in the main threads. Anyways, thanks for the info DannyDeez. Seems like Audi is really cracking down on this tuning stuff, first with the TD1 and now with TB1.

[jl87]

That TSB was put out for the MQB platform. Not saying it couldn't apply to ours, but good to be aware.

[DannyDeez]

That TSB was put out for the MQB platform. Not saying it couldn't apply to ours, but good to be aware.

Yes I saw Tony mention that, but if Audi can tell, then they can tell. It always has to start somewhere.

[switchedstance]

Yes I saw Tony mention that, but if Audi can tell, then they can tell. It always has to start somewhere.

It says suspected, not modified like the others. Burden of proof is on them. If you remove the piggyback and clear your DTCs, there is no way to know.

[DannyDeez]

It says suspected, not modified like the others. Burden of proof is on them. If you remove the piggyback and clear your DTCs, there is no way to know.

And right under that is says the majority of the boxes can be detected. Good luck with your theory that there is 'no way to know' and have fun fighting with AOA after the dealer TB1's your car and denies a claim. Burden of proof isn't on them. Dealers deny claims all the time for stupid shit.

IMO either tune and deal with the consequence or stay stock and wait for the warranty to end.

[DGVR6]

Is this still for sale?

[Goodforyou19]

yep

[RamW24]

Can this be stacked with a Giac Stage 2 & Dsg tune?

[whiped]

Can this be stacked with a Giac Stage 2 & Dsg tune?

Yes, I believe 5-1 is the recommended setting when stacked with GIAC. (You can ask around the Stage II and beyond or Dual Pulley Thread)

[The Fat Kid]

It says suspected, not modified like the others. Burden of proof is on them. If you remove the piggyback and clear your DTCs, there is no way to know.

It indicates that "tuning can also be identified based on a modification to the hardware version of the control unit from H to X", which could mean that plugging in a piggyback literally flips a switch somewhere.

Oh, and all Audi has to do is deny your warranty claim and not do the repairs. The burden of proof might be on them, but you will have to hire an attorney and take them to court.

[sacandagaD]

It indicates that "tuning can also be identified based on a modification to the hardware version of the control unit from H to X", which could mean that plugging in a piggyback literally flips a switch somewhere.

Modifying hardware would entail a physical change to a component, so it could be on newer models. But no one seems to know the real deal, so until we do, it's a control by fear story. Of course, as someone mentioned, modding is always going to be a game of risk versus reward.

[The Fat Kid]

Modifying hardware would entail a physical change to a component, so it could be on newer models. But no one seems to know the real deal, so until we do, it's a control by fear story. Of course, as someone mentioned, modding is always going to be a game of risk versus reward.

I agree. I was just trying to explain that a software reset might not matter if hardware were affected.

[sacandagaD]

I agree. I was just trying to explain that a software reset might not matter if hardware were affected.

And that could very well be the case with newer versions of hardware. I'm certainly no automotive engineer and may be totally wrong, but I just can't see them all of sudden coming up with some new way to scan your existing ECU, that they didn't have before.

[switchedstance]

And right under that is says the majority of the boxes can be detected. Good luck with your theory that there is 'no way to know' and have fun fighting with AOA after the dealer TB1's your car and denies a claim. Burden of proof isn't on them. Dealers deny claims all the time for stupid shit.

IMO either tune and deal with the consequence or stay stock and wait for the warranty to end.

By that logic, if I unplug my MAP and IAT sensor, I will be flagged. Do you understand how this piggyback works? Do you understand what clearing the DTCs (and thusly your logs) does?

The H to X paragraph is unrelated to the piggybacks, hence why it shows TXD and not TB1. There is no physical way for a piggyback to change an ECU revision or even flash count. Plz read FFS.

That chart is for the MBQ platform anyway, which has a more complex ecu than our cars.

[European90]

Guys do not worry CHIPWERKE is not Detectable
Somes hoping to get down chipwerke with this news and post . Ohh also who make this post and news do your best.

[DannyDeez]

By that logic, if I unplug my MAP and IAT sensor, I will be flagged. Do you understand how this piggyback works? Do you understand what clearing the DTCs (and thusly your logs) does?

The H to X paragraph is unrelated to the piggybacks, hence why it shows TXD and not TB1. There is no physical way for a piggyback to change an ECU revision or even flash count. Plz read FFS.

That chart is for the MBQ platform anyway, which has a more complex ecu than our cars.

Yet somehow audi can still tell. Amazing right?
Believe what you want. Actually, why don't you try it out and report back to everyone.
If people are going to use tuning boxes,they should at least be aware that the possibility of getting caught by Audi is out there. Not blindly believing that they'll never get caught and its 100% safe. Then they can make their own educated decision on what to do.
People are either going to tune or they aren't. I went stage 2 on my 4 month old leased B8.5 S5. I didn't care about a warranty since I wasn't letting the entry level dealer techs touch my car anyway. As for my S4, I have no desire to tune it again. All it did was get me in trouble.

[European90]

Yet somehow audi can still tell. Amazing right?
Believe what you want. Actually, why don't you try it out and report back to everyone.
If people are going to use tuning boxes,they should at least be aware that the possibility of getting caught by Audi is out there. Not blindly believing that they'll never get caught and its 100% safe. Then they can make their own educated decision on what to do.
People are either going to tune or they aren't. I went stage 2 on my 4 month old leased B8.5 S5. I didn't care about a warranty since I wasn't letting the entry level dealer techs touch my car anyway. As for my S4, I have no desire to tune it again. All it did was get me in trouble.

CHIPWERKE can not detectable. TESTED...

[Goodforyou19]

Alright well, regardless of whether or not it's detectable... back to the original reason for this post!
Price drop to $360 shipped within the US, same as the other forum member who was also selling their chipwerke pro.

[speed3380]

Is this still for sell?


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[seanentrust]

still for sale?

[Goodforyou19]

SOLD!