APR Teaser: Adding more power to the 3.0 TFSI.

[Arin@APR]

We love the 3.0T, and we’ve spent quite some time figuring out how to add more power. We’ve tested expensive and inexpensive. We’ve tested too much, and too little. We’ve tested things others have done, and new things unseen. We’ve tested the good and the bad, and we think you'll be pleased with what we have to offer.

Below is where the market was (Green – Pulley), where the market is (Blue - Dual pulley), and where APR is (Red - #soon).

ETA: Boost season.

Price: TBD

Power: :)




Stay tuned.

[Adplaya]

We love the 3.0T, and we’ve spent quite some time figuring out how to add more power. We’ve tested expensive and inexpensive. We’ve tested too much, and too little. We’ve tested things others have done, and new things unseen. We’ve tested the good and the bad, and we think you'll be pleased with what we have to offer.

Below is where the market was (Green – Pulley), where the market is (Blue - Dual pulley), and where APR is (Red - #soon).

ETA: Boost season.

Price: TBD

Power: :)


Stay tuned.

You have my attention.

[bomb39]

WHen is boost season? and how expensive is this? More than APR Stage 2 price?

[JasonJ]

How does this translate to the SQ5?

[SQive]

Of course, as a current APR subscriber, this will be a no-cost upgrade, right?

[Arin@APR]

How does this translate to the SQ5?

It translates. :-)

[drumnjuny]

Of course, as a current APR subscriber, this will be a no-cost upgrade, right?

pretty sure they are using dual pulley to achieve this

if that is the case, you will need a larger crank pulley and new belt. but just speculation.

Still looks more than worth the money. i didn't even go stage 2 because it didn't seem worth it.

[Jimminez@Nemesis]

Saw this in the S4 section and thought that it would be only for manual cars, but now that it applies to the SQ5 I'm intrigued.

Erin, I know its a teaser but can you provide an ETA on when more info will be available?

Clarification, Green = APR Stage 2? As I don't see an APR dual pulley set up for the 3.0T, and that the red is only relative to green from what is available from APR?

And the most important question, tell me who is the APR dealer in Ottawa that can do this install (with software)?

[riceboy22]

Subscribed. And will program switching arrive during boost season also?!

[turbojayc]

Saw this in the S4 section and thought that it would be only for manual cars, but now that it applies to the SQ5 I'm intrigued.

Erin, I know its a teaser but can you provide an ETA on when more info will be available?

Clarification, Green = APR Stage 2? As I don't see an APR dual pulley set up for the 3.0T, and that the red is only relative to green from what is available from APR?

And the most important question, tell me who is the APR dealer in Ottawa that can do this install (with software)?

Make sure you find a good sticker supplier to for those TD1 stickers you were telling me about

[Jimminez@Nemesis]

Make sure you find a good sticker supplier to for those TD1 stickers you were telling me about

Indeed. Not sure how quickly I'd convert. Will see how things go. At this time I'm not interested in doing anything that jeopardizes the drive train warranty.

Definitely interested in how well you stay under the radar. To be honest, I didn't know that your choice was different than others and offered more stealthiness than other when I first posted.

[dasaint]

Hopefully this translates nicely to the '17 Q7 as well if not, ill take the basic pulley swap and tune

[turbojayc]

Indeed. Not sure how quickly I'd convert. Will see how things go. At this time I'm not interested in doing anything that jeopardizes the drive train warranty.

Definitely interested in how well you stay under the radar. To be honest, I didn't know that your choice was different than others and offered more stealthiness than other when I first posted.

So they claim. Unitronic does not guarantee any "stealthiness" however they do things a bit different to try and help. Like I said, I don't plan on going back to the dealership, so that will definitely help to stay under the radar.

I will say though, the tune has been AWESOME and I don't regret the decision at all.

Good luck with any decision you make.

[tmoe]

Well this sure put a foot on the brakes to me ordering a fluidampr 179mm crank pulley. I just hope this is 'real'!

[rusq5]

I opened this up in photoshop with a grid overlayed. Looks like the red curve is about 12-15% more than the green. Does this mean we're hitting the 500+hp mark?

I'm very interested in this. I wonder how APR is getting more power from a 2 pulley system (I'm guessing that's what this is) and what this means for reliability. Seems like the single pulley stage 2 cars are very reliable, hopefully this will remain true with the added power.

[jomama229]

I wonder how APR is getting more power from a 2 pulley system (I'm guessing that's what this is) and what this means for reliability.

over in the S4 section, someone mentioned maybe cams and some porting/polishing. APR has already claimed it's not nitrous. we shall see. hope this turns out well.

[rgvsq5]

Sweet baby Jesus... I don't know when boost season is, but hopefully it's soon!

[SQive]

Aahhh.
The mythical boost season. . .comes right after the fourth full moon of the month.

[andrios]

subscribed!

[zeebow]

need mo powah!

[ThunderDent]

If you get it over 500hp, and my warranty gets close to done, I'm all over it.

[IC3MAN SQ5]

🤔🤔🤔

[moespeed1]

Probably headers and exhaust

[jomama229]

Probably headers and exhaust

prob not. both have been done before, and apr claims this new product has not been done before. there's a bit of speculation over in S4 folder...there's also quite a bit of poop being flung in there as well.

[rusq5]

prob not. both have been done before, and apr claims this new product has not been done before. there's a bit of speculation over in S4 folder...there's also quite a bit of poop being flung in there as well.

It's a shit show in the S4 forum. I kinda get it though, the last big tease was stage 3 and that flopped. I do wish we could just get an honest idea of what is being produced. They've said in the S4 forum its been tested and running on prototype cars.

On a side note, does anyone know if the SQ got the 3.0T Evo engine too? APR says they're not support it.

[bomb39]

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[Jimminez@Nemesis]

Crickets in this thread versus the S4 one.

[jomama229]

Crickets in this thread versus the S4 one.

probably for the better. of the 20 or so pages on the S4 thread, maybe 18.5 of them is filled with garbage. for those that didn't catch what was posted over there, eurocode "may have" slipped in an IG post by revealing that they're expecting a new throttle body with dual pulley tune from APR to be installed on their shop/owner's car. the IG post was later deleted and eurocode vehemently denied that they have more knowledge than the general public.

[Jimminez@Nemesis]

probably for the better. of the 20 or so pages on the S4 thread, maybe 18.5 of them is filled with garbage. for those that didn't catch what was posted over there, eurocode "may have" slipped in an IG post by revealing that they're expecting a new throttle body with dual pulley tune from APR to be installed on their shop/owner's car. the IG post was later deleted and eurocode vehemently denied that they have more knowledge than the general public.

Yah agreed that most of it is just a bunch of nonsense and speculation and some hate towards APR. I haven't had an APR product since my B6 days so don't have the disdain that many have. I missed the eurocode slip but if that is what we are looking forward to, that should definitely be interesting.

[riceboy22]

Crickets in this thread versus the S4 one.

I'd like to believe it's just that we're a more mature group.

[Jimminez@Nemesis]

I'd like to believe it's just that we're a more mature group.

Yes, you are an old man.

[jomama229]

I missed the eurocode slip but if that is what we are looking forward to, that should definitely be interesting.

whoever posted the screen capture of EC's IG post took it down after EC claimed to not know anything more than the general public. according to EC, some "employee" handling their IG account mistook what was discussed in a meeting and said in so many words and ended posting that they're eagerly awaiting a throttlebody upgrade with dual pulley tune from APR, with a pic of the owner's yellow/orange S4, on their IG account. the IG post even included #catisoutofthebag. EC went back into the thread to try to do some damage control...what a joke. either way, i was never inclined to go with APR and even less so to ever buy from EC.

[BG SQ5]

whoever posted the screen capture of EC's IG post took it down after EC claimed to not know anything more than the general public. according to EC, some "employee" handling their IG account mistook what was discussed in a meeting and said in so many words and ended posting that they're eagerly awaiting a throttlebody upgrade with dual pulley tune from APR, with a pic of the owner's yellow/orange S4, on their IG account. the IG post even included #catisoutofthebag. EC went back into the thread to try to do some damage control...what a joke. either way, i was never inclined to go with APR and even less so to ever buy from EC.

+1 I was actually over there mixing it up with them right after the EC debacle yesterday...and I didn't have too much nice to say. Pretty much exactly what you said.

I thought is was absolutely ridiculous. The screenshot that was later removed (now there's censorship??) was so specific and even braggadocios with the whole #catisoutofthebag. Then to come on the forum immediately and claim 'oh no, that's just our best guess'...'we really don't know anything'. C'mon now, don't insult our intelligence. No one says that these specific things are getting installed and #thecatisoutofthebag for an intended 'best guess'. If they would have thrown the social media guy under the bus immediately as opposed to defending the IG post, I wouldn't have had as much of an issue. 'We meant to post a teaser/best guess, but the conversation was misinterpreted and incorrectly posted as certainly by our IG guy'. I could have lived with that. However, now they claim it's not a throttle body, so they will look even worse if it happens to be one. :grabs popcorn:

[jomama229]

dave@EC is a total joke. a few years back, i drove up to EC because some friends were getting tuned at EC. another dude brought in an S6 and was getting tuned as well. i asked questions like any curious car enthusiasts would, and asked about pricing and stuff (had just picked up the Q5). long story short, after i left, dave asked my friends whether i was snooping on what EC was doing. maybe i'm being petty, but that left a bad taste in my mouth. fast forward a few years and look where EC gone - they straight up copied all the 034 transmission bits and are trying to undersell 034 since they didn't have to do any of hte R&D. sure, 034 dipped into their territory by coming out with a competing product to the AK, but 1) it wasn't a direct copy and 2) they aren't selling it for less. pretty JV of EC to do what they did, if you ask me. as for APR's "marketing," ha, that's whole other story. i'm glad APR also leaves much to be desired...it def helps me keep money in my bank account.

[riceboy22]

dave@EC is a total joke. a few years back, i drove up to EC because some friends were getting tuned at EC. another dude brought in an S6 and was getting tuned as well. i asked questions like any curious car enthusiasts would, and asked about pricing and stuff (had just picked up the Q5). long story short, after i left, dave asked my friends whether i was snooping on what EC was doing. maybe i'm being petty, but that left a bad taste in my mouth. fast forward a few years and look where EC gone - they straight up copied all the 034 transmission bits and are trying to undersell 034 since they didn't have to do any of hte R&D. sure, 034 dipped into their territory by coming out with a competing product to the AK, but 1) it wasn't a direct copy and 2) they aren't selling it for less. pretty JV of EC to do what they did, if you ask me. as for APR's "marketing," ha, that's whole other story. i'm glad APR also leaves much to be desired...it def helps me keep money in my bank account.

I'm not really married to using any of these companies, but it seems like there's a lot of angst towards specific tuners. I don't totally get it even with some of the history I've read. (Full disclosure: I have an APR tune and just got the EC sways installed.)

For 034 and EC, they seem to have both borrowed from each other. The 034 X-Brace just looks like a beefier copy of the AK. The EC drivetrain and transmission mounts appear to be exact copies of the 034 ones. In both cases, someone came up with it first and someone else made their own version. There's just not as much you can change when copying a billet aluminum piece that has to fill a void. I did find it interesting that nobody really lambasted 034 about their rear sway bar being sold for the Q5/SQ5 without ever having been even test fit. I doubt a company like APR would have gotten a pass on that like 034 did. That was actually the reason I went with the EC sway bars, because I knew they had at least tested them in-shop and on-the-road on an actual car.

For APR, I do get why people are annoyed about how they market things, especially after the stage 3 debacle. That being said, I'm glad that it sounds like they're at least still working on the platform. Before they announced anything, people were complaining that they weren't developing anything for the platform anymore. I'm just taking an "I'll believe it when I see it" view given their past history.

[jomama229]

I'm just taking an "I'll believe it when I see it" view given their past history.

that's really the way to go here. i think APR does good work, i just wish they were better at communicating that to the masses. no one ever thinks marketing is important enough to actually spend money on it.

as for 034, i hear ya on that. they've been working on releasing their tune for quite some time now. they ran some good times on the stage 1 tune, and have been fairly radio silent for a while. and yeah, that sway bar debacle was pretty sucky too. can't say i'm 100% sold on them, but i'm def pulling for them since they're fairly local. we'll see.

[riceboy22]

that's really the way to go here. i think APR does good work, i just wish they were better at communicating that to the masses. no one ever thinks marketing is important enough to actually spend money on it.

as for 034, i hear ya on that. they've been working on releasing their tune for quite some time now. they ran some good times on the stage 1 tune, and have been fairly radio silent for a while. and yeah, that sway bar debacle was pretty sucky too. can't say i'm 100% sold on them, but i'm def pulling for them since they're fairly local. we'll see.

I was thinking about the marketing aspect, and I kind of think this whole thing might still be a positive for APR. At the end of the day, people are talking about them, and I'm sure even the people who are trashing them still want to know if APR really has something. Is that better or worse than the silence from other tuners? I'm not sure, but there have to be some people who are waiting to find out before dropping money on a different tune. It's all contingent on APR actually delivering though haha.

[SQive]

I'll bet they are "looking into" this stuff, but meant to keep it quiet so they don't get more stage-3 egg on their faces in case it flops too.

[Pittdawg]

I was thinking about the marketing aspect, and I kind of think this whole thing might still be a positive for APR. At the end of the day, people are talking about them, and I'm sure even the people who are trashing them still want to know if APR really has something. Is that better or worse than the silence from other tuners? I'm not sure, but there have to be some people who are waiting to find out before dropping money on a different tune. It's all contingent on APR actually delivering though haha.

Scandal/debacle and all, I would say it's still much better than other tuners who are silent or don't offer anything for the platform. For the record, I had my TDI tuned by EC with an APR tune and absolutely love it.

[Arin@APR]

I'm a 3.0T owner myself, and I'm very happy with our engineering team, especially when I hear the 3.0T screaming on the engine dyno every few moments, day after day. It just means I'm getting an update before going home, and soon, so will you.