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    Audi B8 2009'-2012' vs Audi B8 2013' - 2015' - Boot trunk difference?

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    Hi guys,

    I had been advised that the Pre-facelift and post-post facelift models...the boot shape is different???

    The reason I am asking is that I was looking for a boot/trunk lip spoiler and one particular seller who was selling a 2009-2012 B8 boot/trunk lip spoiler, emphasised with 'this Will NOT fit 2013-onwards facelift model'.

    I thought from a glance from pictures online that they look identical, so I asked the seller as to why it wont fit.
    According to him/her, they had sold it to facelift model owners and all of them had requested a refund/return due to incompatibility.

    Can someone here please confirm that this is true?

    Kind regards,

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    Yes, unfortunately the trunk/boot lid is slightly different on the sedan.


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    Hey thanks for the prompt response, for I am very grateful. sorry, yeah I forgot to mention its for the sedan and not the Avant.

    just out of curiosity, what makes it difference? (if it can be explained that is).

    thanks

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    The curvature is not the same. That is why most lips are year specific.
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    Much appreciated thanks.

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    the curve of the lip is not the same, along with the taillights too, the facelift tales have a slightly different shape on the corner so that part shape is different on the trunk lid too. i'm not sure about the bumper itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Smoke View Post
    the curve of the lip is not the same, along with the taillights too, the facelift tales have a slightly different shape on the corner so that part shape is different on the trunk lid too. i'm not sure about the bumper itself.
    I hadn't noticed.
    So does that mean the rear-quarter panels are slightly different to cater for the new lights?

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    you can see a side by side comparison here, doesnt stand out right away here since both red cars, but you can see the difference, it is a subtle change though so not apparent right away. and i know the prefacelift and facelift Avant both have the same exact shape, those are a direct swap without anything else, but the sedan has this difference.

    i believe the quarter panel and the bumper is actually the same. the outside half of the tails are the same shape, but the inside half on the trunk lid you can see the slight difference in shape, the top curve is different and looks slightly longer.

    the curvature of the lid looks to be but it's probably just a slight difference, the S4 has the raised lip on both, but yea new trunk lid is a must. i believe ECS or someone was running the facelift taillight upgrade for pre, and the sedan package just needed the new trunk lid, you can check their site they might have it still.

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    Hmm I just typed a response/reply and it disappeared.

    Thanks for providing the pic. The differences are now very apparent.

    Although the bumpers look different. im pretty sure the Valances/diffusers cannot be interchanged between the two as well as between S-lines and non-S-line base models (such as the one pictured on the Right).

    Would you happen to know if the S-line side skirts are the same for both B8 & B8.5?

    regards,

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    Thanks for the post op

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    Quote Originally Posted by poweredbyaudi7 View Post
    They are not..
    really? can anyone else also verify this?

    The guards appear the same between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    really? can anyone else also verify this?

    The guards appear the same between the two.
    Those are same for PreFL and FL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespeeded View Post
    Although the bumpers look different. im pretty sure the Valances/diffusers cannot be interchanged between the two as well as between S-lines and non-S-line base models (such as the one pictured on the Right).
    You're correct about the valences. B8 standard ones won't fit B8 S-line cars or any B8.5 (and vice versa). B8.5 standard valences won't fit on any B8.5 S-line or any B8 (and vice versa). A shorter way of saying this is probably: there are 4 different valence fitments (B8, B8 S-line, B8.5, B8.5 S-line, and possibly the B8.5 Competition Plus is a 5th, I'm not sure yet) and none of them interchange with any others.


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    correct the valances are not interchangeable, there are 4 diff fitments like Project Quattro said above. as for the side skirts i believe they should be the same, the side profile on the cars are almost the same pretty much, just the front and rear ends slightly different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Smoke View Post
    the curve of the lip is not the same, along with the taillights too, the facelift tales have a slightly different shape on the corner so that part shape is different on the trunk lid too. i'm not sure about the bumper itself.
    Just going back to this post.

    How much of a curvature difference?

    The reason Im asking is that I ordered a lip off ebay by judging by the pictures and advertised as 'B9' it fits the 8.5.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-Boot-Tr...ZVuGkL&vxp=mtr

    It arrived today and ill need to get it painted.

    So far, I am able to do just a test fit. It appears that it doesn't fit snug, the curve of the spoiler has slightly less of a bend than the actual trunk...but it appears once you give a bit of force and push it down, that it can be done.

    Im wondering whether its one of two things:

    1.) this is just the way aftermarket body kits work... majority never fit snug like OEM and usually always requires a bit of customising (in this case, extra force to push and hope that the double sided tape will secure it properly)

    or 2.) Despite what's advertised, it may be a B8.0 spoiler, which is known to be different but with a bit force to force it down, it can fit.

    I'm also wondering if anyone can shed some light and had the same experience.

    let me know if you require any pictures.

    regards,

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    so you have a facelift B8.5 right? that listing is weird, says 13-14 models only, pics show both B8.5 and B8 models being fitted too.

    i do know the curve is slightly different because all the spoilers i've seen list for either B8 or B8.5, dont think ive seen ones that show both. i have an aftermarket replica one from ebay on my B8 and it fits perfect, no need to push down or force it to curve or anything. if the one you have now fits after pushing down then as long as you get some strong tape/adhesive to hold it down i guess you should be ok, as long as it doesn't seem too forced where it feels like it's going to pop up. maybe use a heatgun as well to heat up the part and get it a little more flexible and adjust the shape, or leave it out in the sun to get real hot lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Smoke View Post
    so you have a facelift B8.5 right? that listing is weird, says 13-14 models only, pics show both B8.5 and B8 models being fitted too.

    i do know the curve is slightly different because all the spoilers i've seen list for either B8 or B8.5, dont think ive seen ones that show both. i have an aftermarket replica one from ebay on my B8 and it fits perfect, no need to push down or force it to curve or anything. if the one you have now fits after pushing down then as long as you get some strong tape/adhesive to hold it down i guess you should be ok, as long as it doesn't seem too forced where it feels like it's going to pop up. maybe use a heatgun as well to heat up the part and get it a little more flexible and adjust the shape, or leave it out in the sun to get real hot lol.
    Yes my car is the 8.5 facelift.

    yeah most of the listings on ebay from China or Taiwan are bogus when it comes to description or details.

    I did recall reading a thread years ago about a member on here with a 8.5 and ordered a 8.0 lip, From memory, he struggled and was disappointed. It appeared from that thread, not many were aware of the difference.
    Ill have to try and find it again, and perhaps bump it.

    At the end of the day, if it fits with a bit of man-handling, I think I can deal with that, since its difficult to send things back. But if its the wrong part then ill have an issue.

    Ill definitely have to heat it up somehow after painting. its the middle of winter here, the sun is quite weak. I might also remove the supplied double-sided tape and use something more reputable.

    Have you got any pics of your lip?, this one I have is not the L-shape but more of a C-Shape that sits on the vertical and the horizontal / corner.

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    yea maybe get some 3M Bonding tape will be stronger. if it had a cheap price to begin with may just be worth it to use for now while you can and get another fitting one next time.

    the one i got was a $90 one from ebay, came perfectly painted as well. it has a slight L shape, more L than a C shape, it's the Reiger replica one. does have the slight hook at the end so it just slightly hangs over the vertical part of the trunk lid. i definitely am happy with this one, very subtle and OEM looking, doesnt stand out so much and makes the overall silhouette like the S4 trunk lip, not too aggressive. fitment was excellent for mine.

    i dont have any closeups i can upload right now but there's a big thread on it here with pics and info - http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...s-the-question
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