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    Audi S5 USP Stainless Clutch Line Review

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    This is my somewhat short review of USP motorsports stainless steel clutch line for the S5.
    http://www.uspmotorsports.com/Audi--...and-A5-S5.html

    I’ve been driving manual transmission cars for the past 15 years, and I’ve owned quite a few vehicles during this time. It goes without a saying that every manual car is different; the clutch is softer or harder, it releases on different travel distance, the shifters are sloppy or more solid, etc. You get the point. If you can drive a manual it doesn’t mean you can drive it well. Sometimes you have to double clutch, on some cars you have to match the revs to shift smoothly, so it’s all about getting to know your car and perfecting the shifts. This is especially important when going from 1st-2nd, or 2nd-3rd gear.
    My S5 has over 100,000 miles and as far as I know is on a factory clutch, not been replaced. I am not the second owner, but the previous guy said he did not do it. So maybe, maybe not. I’ve been driving the car for two months and at least once a day I end up grinding into a gear, or have problems at the stop light getting into first. Sometimes you don't realize the light is green, and then you try to put it in first quickly so you can go = grind. My master & Slave cylinders are new, I bled the clutch but not much help. It has to be pushed to the floor all the way to start, and same goes with shifting. It feels like something is grinding in the pedal, and it is a very soft feeling in the clutch. It’s almost like a fragile feeling that when you press it next time your transmission will end up on the floor, or the clutch pedal will break.

    I bit the bullet and bought a stainless clutch line, and it’s the best $70 I spent on this car so far! I completely removed the stock metal line that’s 1 foot longer and bent in 5 different places. The feeling in the clutch pedal is night and day, It feels like the clutch did on my 300zx twin turbo. It really changed the shifting dynamic of the car to a point that the sloppy shifter has absolutely no negative effect on shifting anymore. The clutch pedal feels solid, and when you press the pedal you can feel like you are changing the gear.
    I have been driving now for 5 days so far, and not a single time has the shifter grinded into a gear.

    If you have a manual transmission S5, regardless of the miles, this upgrade is the best bang for the buck.
    It’s a bit PITA to install as you have to remove the wipers, cowls, wiper motor assembly, ECU box, etc.
    I’m not associated with their company in any way, but just wanted to leave some positive feedback as the product is really well worth it.

    Sorry I took no pictures, lol.

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    I did mine a week or 2 ago same review. Night and day, especially when launching

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    Mine is in the mail!
    When underhood temps get extremely hot I'm having all kinds of trouble shifting gears. This is what I'm suspecting is at fault.

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    Wonders if it just needed a good bleed. Hard to understand how a different hose could make that much difference.
    FWIW my MT S5 clutch action is hugely better that that of the Cayman S I was in prior to it. My 2001 TT is even better though.
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    Audi S5 USP Stainless Clutch Line Review

    Just got mine installed today. And yes, the shop said it was a PITA. May have been quicker if I allowed him to destroy the OEM line. But WOW what a difference. The clutch pedal feels much more solid. It no longer feels spongy. Great product. Highly recommend it.

    New installed:


    Old OEM removed:
    JHM linkage w/ USP SS line : test pipes : pulley : intake spacers : tune : 2-pc rotors Ecode shifter : sways : end links : AK : Sport UCAs w/H&R coils & CR-15 AWE Non-res downpipes w/ GMG exhaust : intake tube w/ APR CF intake 034 mounts & inserts Style VFF103s : DEVAL : BFI knob/boot : custom s-wheel : CF inlays

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    Veteran Member Four Rings xuandatou's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTALMS View Post
    Just got mine installed today. And yes, the shop said it was a PITA. May have been quicker if I allowed him to destroy the OEM line. But WOW what a difference. The clutch pedal feels much more solid. It no longer feels spongy. Great product. Highly recommend it.

    New installed:


    Old OEM removed:
    Nice review along with pic !

    Just wondering how long did it take (labor hours)hours for its installation ?

    THX !
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    Established Member Two Rings TTALMS's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xuandatou View Post
    Just wondering how long did it take (labor hours)hours for its installation ?
    It took between 2-1/2 to 3-1/2 hours. The shop had to remove a bunch of items to properly remove the OEM setup without damaging it.



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    JHM linkage w/ USP SS line : test pipes : pulley : intake spacers : tune : 2-pc rotors Ecode shifter : sways : end links : AK : Sport UCAs w/H&R coils & CR-15 AWE Non-res downpipes w/ GMG exhaust : intake tube w/ APR CF intake 034 mounts & inserts Style VFF103s : DEVAL : BFI knob/boot : custom s-wheel : CF inlays

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    Veteran Member Four Rings xuandatou's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTALMS View Post
    It took between 2-1/2 to 3-1/2 hours. The shop had to remove a bunch of items to properly remove the OEM setup without damaging it.



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    THX a lot !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ES803313 View Post
    Mine is in the mail!
    When underhood temps get extremely hot I'm having all kinds of trouble shifting gears. This is what I'm suspecting is at fault.
    I've been experiencing the exact same problem. Curious to see if this solves it.
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    APR: Intake // AWE: Touring + non-res DPs, S-Flo filter // CR-15: Brace // ECS: LWFW, Diff Mounts, SS Brake Lines // Eurocode: AK, Sways // JHM: Tune, Short Shifter // KW: H.A.S. // OEM+: B8.5 S-Line Competition+ Bumper, BO S5 Grille, Ecodes, RS5 BBK, 20" RS5 Rotors// SBC: Stg 2 Daily // 034 Motorsport: Intake Pipe, Trans & Motor Mounts, ACAs // Others...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings xuandatou's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTALMS View Post
    Just got mine installed today. And yes, the shop said it was a PITA. May have been quicker if I allowed him to destroy the OEM line. But WOW what a difference. The clutch pedal feels much more solid. It no longer feels spongy. Great product. Highly recommend it.

    New installed:


    Old OEM removed:
    Ordered mine and I'm also interested in this, maybe it would save some $ when installing them two together:
    https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catal...21_276_277_280
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    Established Member Two Rings TTALMS's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xuandatou View Post
    Ordered mine and I'm also interested in this, maybe it would save some $ when installing them two together:
    https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catal...21_276_277_280
    I believe these items are installed on two different areas of the car. I have both items installed on my car, and IIRC, they did not have to open the hood and remove the cowl, ecu, etc. to install the JHM solid linkage. However, your shop may give you a deal for combined work.

    Oh, and you're gonna love the JHM solid linkage.
    JHM linkage w/ USP SS line : test pipes : pulley : intake spacers : tune : 2-pc rotors Ecode shifter : sways : end links : AK : Sport UCAs w/H&R coils & CR-15 AWE Non-res downpipes w/ GMG exhaust : intake tube w/ APR CF intake 034 mounts & inserts Style VFF103s : DEVAL : BFI knob/boot : custom s-wheel : CF inlays

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    Veteran Member Four Rings xuandatou's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTALMS View Post
    I believe these items are installed on two different areas of the car. I have both items installed on my car, and IIRC, they did not have to open the hood and remove the cowl, ecu, etc. to install the JHM solid linkage. However, your shop may give you a deal for combined work.

    Oh, and you're gonna love the JHM solid linkage.


    Got it, Thx for the info.

    BTW, mind me asking how long did it take for the Linkage installation? Trying to figure out the total labor cost
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    Quote Originally Posted by xuandatou View Post
    Got it, Thx for the info.

    BTW, mind me asking how long did it take for the Linkage installation? Trying to figure out the total labor cost
    Great question. I'm not sure. I can't find it called out on any of my invoices. I'll check with my shop and get back to you.


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    Established Member Two Rings TTALMS's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xuandatou View Post
    Got it, Thx for the info.

    BTW, mind me asking how long did it take for the Linkage installation? Trying to figure out the total labor cost
    Shop said it was no more than a couple of hours, and was pretty straight forward.


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    JHM linkage w/ USP SS line : test pipes : pulley : intake spacers : tune : 2-pc rotors Ecode shifter : sways : end links : AK : Sport UCAs w/H&R coils & CR-15 AWE Non-res downpipes w/ GMG exhaust : intake tube w/ APR CF intake 034 mounts & inserts Style VFF103s : DEVAL : BFI knob/boot : custom s-wheel : CF inlays

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTALMS View Post
    Shop said it was no more than a couple of hours, and was pretty straight forward.


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    THX a lot man!

    Should be expecting 2-3 then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xuandatou View Post
    THX a lot man!

    Should be expecting 2-3 then?
    Closer to 2


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    Quote Originally Posted by TTALMS View Post
    Closer to 2


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    Quote Originally Posted by ES803313 View Post
    Mine is in the mail!
    When underhood temps get extremely hot I'm having all kinds of trouble shifting gears. This is what I'm suspecting is at fault.
    Was this issue ever resolved?
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    APR: Intake // AWE: Touring + non-res DPs, S-Flo filter // CR-15: Brace // ECS: LWFW, Diff Mounts, SS Brake Lines // Eurocode: AK, Sways // JHM: Tune, Short Shifter // KW: H.A.S. // OEM+: B8.5 S-Line Competition+ Bumper, BO S5 Grille, Ecodes, RS5 BBK, 20" RS5 Rotors// SBC: Stg 2 Daily // 034 Motorsport: Intake Pipe, Trans & Motor Mounts, ACAs // Others...

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