Hard hard time taking off wheel today - Hub Rust

**purelife** · 06-19-2016 06:43 PM

I had a hard time taking off one of my rear wheels today but eventually got it off after a few kicks. Is it because of all this rust? Anything I can do to it?

**Audibot** · 06-19-2016 06:46 PM

Two decent methods:

1. Get a wire wheel adapter for a drill and use it to clean it up. Should take care of it easily.
2. Use sandpaper (finer grit) to wipe it away.

To prevent that, you could cover the surface with something, whether it's paint or oil or something. Obviously not the discs though.

**Dr GP** · 06-19-2016 06:57 PM

Put on some anti sieze. it will prevent it from occurring again

**mr shickadance** · 06-19-2016 06:58 PM

sand and apply antisieze, a trick to get a rust adhered wheel off the hub is to use another tire as a 'ram' to knock off the stuck wheel. works great and leaves no marks.

**infinkc** · 06-19-2016 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by mr shickadance

sand and apply antisieze, a trick to get a rust adhered wheel off the hub is to use another tire as a 'ram' to knock off the stuck wheel. works great and leaves no marks.

Can also slightly loosen the lugs and move the car back and forth.

**rtl5009** · 06-19-2016 07:02 PM

Poverty.

**mr shickadance** · 06-19-2016 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by infinkc

Can also slightly loosen the lugs and move the car back and forth.

that process always worried me, but others swear by it.

**OMGHI** · 06-19-2016 07:18 PM

Move away from where you live to a drier climate

**rtl5009** · 06-19-2016 07:20 PM

If they are really stuck you can take out the lugs and drive the car

**StealthBlackA4** · 06-19-2016 07:24 PM

You could always donkey kick it...haha

**Vanimal** · 06-19-2016 07:28 PM

I live in PA and can run into similar things. Had a fun time taking out my wheel lugs last time. Although they are ECS brand to go with my spacers and not coated the best. Get a wire brush and go around the hub ring to knock down some of the rust and fine grit sand paper on the hub. Anti seize on the bolts when you put them back in.

I used a rubber mallet for one good "careful" wack on the backside of the tire edge. Careful it doesn't fly off face first lol.

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**14S4GWM** · 06-19-2016 07:31 PM

^ I thought Anti seize on the bolts is a no no. You won't get a proper torque reading.

**Vanimal** · 06-19-2016 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by 14S4GWM

^ I thought Anti seize on the bolts is a no no. You won't get a proper torque reading.

Ahh sorry brain fart, I mean the PB "blaster" or whatever it's called so they thread in smoother. Sorry lol.

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**Vanimal** · 06-19-2016 07:35 PM

For us in the north east a few sprays of this on suspension parts or wheel lugs is a life saver lol. Hopefully it's good on the wheels lugs, I'd assume so. It helps them thread back in smoothly without fight.

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**jwallace0988** · 06-19-2016 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by mr shickadance

sand and apply antisieze, a trick to get a rust adhered wheel off the hub is to use another tire as a 'ram' to knock off the stuck wheel. works great and leaves no marks.

+1 best trick I know... Donkey kicking only goes so far... It's when you turn into a fuming animal that I learned this trick myself! Hahaha

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**Audibot** · 06-20-2016 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Dr GP

Put on some anti sieze. it will prevent it from occurring again

Yeah, forgot to mention that! I did this on my last change!

Originally Posted by Vanimal

For us in the north east a few sprays of this on suspension parts or wheel lugs is a life saver lol. Hopefully it's good on the wheels lugs, I'd assume so. It helps them thread back in smoothly without fight.

NOPE! Go with the best!

and it's brother:

**Vanimal** · 06-20-2016 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Audibot

Yeah, forgot to mention that! I did this on my last change!

NOPE! Go with the best!

and it's brother:

I will give that a shot, i always just grab the PB because walmart has it making it convenient, being i always forgot to order stuff in time lol.

**infinkc** · 06-20-2016 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Audibot

Yeah, forgot to mention that! I did this on my last change!

NOPE! Go with the best!

http://www.kanolabs.com/google/

**sacandagaD** · 06-20-2016 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by 14S4GWM

^ I thought Anti seize on the bolts is a no no. You won't get a proper torque reading.

It's not for the bolts, it's the lip of the wheel hub that gets chemically "welded" on. As others stated, wire brush the crud off, and put a little on the inside edge of the wheel hub, definitely not on any bolts.

**cspcrx** · 06-20-2016 01:16 PM

If you look closely at the hub portion in this picture you can see I coated it with anti seize, its kind of rust colored. That is where you want to coat it.

**Vanimal** · 06-20-2016 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by cspcrx

If you look closely at the hub portion in this picture you can see I coated it with anti seize, its kind of rust colored. That is where you want to coat it.

I have those rotors on my S5, they aren't very "black" anymore if you look closely. I car & my wheels weekly so I don't let dirt cake on. Hopefully when I swap my new 20" wheels on this week a good scrubbing cleans off the stained residue. It's a bit more noticeable now as I have a 20mm spacer on the rear to get flush. Which pushes the wheel out almost 1" off the rotor exposing the rotor hat more than normal. I won't be using spacers with my new wheels so helpfully they clean up good and it's just dried residue on the rotor hat.

But like I said I don't think the hat part will be too exposed since I won't be running spacers with my new wheels. I'll break out some all purpose and a tooth brush and scrub them good while the wheels off

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**purelife** · 06-28-2016 11:45 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions. I will try the wire brush to scrub and apply some anti seize. I see Permatex makes Aluminum, Copper, Nickel anti seize. Which one is best to use? Also is there something I can spray on to clean the rust off quicker - maybe brake cleaner?

**AKPS4** · 06-28-2016 11:54 AM

Becareful applying anti seize. Its OK to use, but use as little as needed. Once you start driving excess anti seize can get flung out all over the wheels and body panels. I had a little too much on one side and its a PITA to get off the wheels... guess i didnt noticed and it baked onto the wheels in sunlight.

**Audibot** · 06-28-2016 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by purelife

Thanks for all the suggestions. I will try the wire brush to scrub and apply some anti seize. I see Permatex makes Aluminum, Copper, Nickel anti seize. Which one is best to use? Also is there something I can spray on to clean the rust off quicker - maybe brake cleaner?

Brake cleaner won't eat rust. You'd need something like CLR or a weak acid to do it (e.g., phosphoric acid which you can get via Coca-Cola, or Star-San if you're into homebrewing).

I don't think it matter which anti-seize you get. I used the normal grey/silver stuff with no issues.

**purelife** · 07-16-2016 11:39 AM

So I cleaned it up with a brass wire brush attached to the drill and applied a very thin layer of anti seize.

**agorich** · 07-16-2016 02:25 PM

i've only had experience with copper coat. that is what we would use out on the rigs. great stuff. but yes, no need to use a lot. that stuff can get everywhere and stayyyyyyyyy

**u2nelson** · 07-16-2016 04:03 PM

ACF 50 http://www.skygeek.com/10013.html?ut...oFERoCl7vw_wcB is the most amazing rust preventive and rust removal product I have ever used. I just did my rotors, and they literally fell away, while my buddies car, two years newer and 30K less miles needed multiple hard wacks with a hammer to get the rotors off. I use this stuff very sparingly on the hub, and not a sign of rust. The hub in this picture is as I found it, and its 4 years old, and 40,000 miles.

**EstorilS4** · 07-16-2016 08:47 PM

Damn nice setup you have there!

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