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    MY2016 Q5 steering angle question - Worried

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    Guys, I'm not sure if it is normal, but I noticed something "unusual" about my new MY2016 Audi Q5 2.0T. When checking measuring block 33 in Address 16 controller (steering) with VCDS, i see the car steers 149 degrees to the left and 163 degrees to the right (on full stop, of course). Vehicle is a left hand drive (maybe this has something to do with the steering angle difference). G85 is calibrated. It reads -1.59 on a full stop and steering wheel level. For it to read 0.0 I have to steer slightly to the left. Already went for a 4 wheel alignment. Car drives straight with steering wheel level. So, what do you think? Is it normal?

    Code:
    Sunday,05,June,2016,19:21:02:40675
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 16.5.1.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20160524 DS251
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: Felipe Plazas
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8R5HA000230 License Plate: IWV753
    Mileage: 970km-602mi Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 8R (8R0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 62 72
    77
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8R5HA000230 Mileage: 970km-602miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CNCE) Labels: 06L-907-115-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 8R2 907 115 C HW: 8T2 907 115 
    Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI H13 0001 
    Revision: --H13--- 
    Coding: 2A2A1032242600082000
    Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0208R2907115C 001001
    ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0208R2907115C.rod
    VCID: 3669137A89D99EF369-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels: 0BK-927-156.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 927 158 AT HW: 0BK 927 156 AM
    Component: 0BK 20TFSIRdW H19 1004 
    Revision: --H19--- 
    Coding: 000001
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002022
    ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_AU48.rod
    VCID: 0F27869ED6C38F3B0A-805A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: Redir Fail!
    Part No SW: 8R0 907 379 BF HW: 8R0 907 379 BF
    Component: ESP8 quattro H09 0020 
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 2D5D4801
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 050BA4B68CBFC56BB0-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KR HW: 8K0 907 064 KR
    Component: BCM2 2.0 H15 0711 
    Revision: 00002001 
    Coding: 05854000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 0A11978AA5A1AA13DD-805E
    
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 754 A HW: 8K0 959 754 A
    Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H71 0083 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: None
    Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AM HW: 8K1 820 043 AM
    Component: KLIMA 1 ZONE H02 0122 
    Revision: A0000000 Serial number: 01050120160335
    Coding: 640122C000
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 73EFEA6ED22BCBDB8E-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DG HW: 8K0 907 063 DG
    Component: BCM1 1.0 H16 0103 
    Revision: 07016001 Serial number: 00001240993902
    Coding: 2600C0108034AFE00181408000001D0D4F1CC70802010201000004004401030100000024000000
    Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
    VCID: 77F7DE7EC653A7FBB2-8022
    
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R1 955 119 A HW: 8R1 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: WWS416 151204 H13 0050 
    Coding: 01DD13
    
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C HW: 8U0 955 559 B Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
    Component: G397_RLFS H06 0004 
    Coding: 02005C
    
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
    Component: E1 - LDS H03 0031 
    
    Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 658 A HW: 4G0 907 658 A
    Component: Humidity_Sens H03 0002 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8R0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 959 655 G HW: 8R0 959 655 G
    Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H49 0610 
    Serial number: 003JPDD1BU1U 
    Coding: 30463531313030303030554A304C38523053
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416 002004
    ROD: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416.rod
    VCID: 48956D82F32D18030B-801C
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
    Serial number: 6334MSME5619271CG
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
    Serial number: 6344MSME561930031
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
    Serial number: 6352QSME5D4D4242O
    
    Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
    Serial number: 6362QSME135A576ET
    
    Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
    Serial number: 63732SME72591A42$
    
    Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
    Serial number: 63832SME6F593E76M
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 Q HW: 8K0 953 568 Q
    Component: Lenks.Modul H03 0003 
    Revision: C0062331 Serial number: 90862OLH001H6 
    Coding: 000037
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 48956D82FB2D18030B-801C
    
    Component: E221 - MFL H03 0004 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 920 901 G HW: 8R0 920 901 G
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. H08 0567 
    Revision: 00200000 Serial number: 68+36R2DG 
    Coding: 13B7220003010008050001
    Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
    VCID: 3669137A81D99EF369-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 R HW: 8R0 907 468 A
    Component: GW-BEM 5CAN H11 0070 
    Revision: 1V100031 Serial number: 3141V15C040492
    Coding: 80C303FF00
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 4E995B9A1949C63341-801A
    
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181 C HW: 8R0 915 181 C
    Component: J367-BDMHella H07 8043 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199) Labels: 8T0-035-785.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 035 785 A HW: 8T0 035 785 
    Component: SG ext.Player H08 0290 
    Revision: 00000000 
    Coding: 020202
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 39731846B0C7718B84-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 R HW: 8K0 959 793 P
    Component: TSG FA H02 0511 
    Revision: Serial number: 0000180654026
    Coding: 011D12204100440004
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 4FA7469E1E43CF3B4A-801A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels: 8K0-909-144.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 909 144 Q HW: 8R0 909 144 L
    Component: RCevo H53 0702 
    Revision: 00000003 Serial number: 0000476317
    Coding: 100000010000
    Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 104002
    ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X.rod
    VCID: 468963BAF9390E73F9-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KR HW: 8K0 907 064 KR
    Component: BCM2 2.0 H15 0711 
    Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0385407316 
    Coding: 013E0E22A0B900158730053280040000
    Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
    VCID: 0A11978AA5A1AA13DD-805E
    
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
    Component: DWA-Sensor H02 0040 
    
    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501 
    
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7N0 959 591 B HW: 7N0 959 591 B
    Component: J245EE04SKB03 H04 0090 
    
    Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7N0 959 591 B HW: 7N0 959 591 B
    Component: J394EE04SKB03 H04 0090 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: 8T0-035-223-ASC.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 035 223 H HW: 8R0 035 223 F
    Component: DSP STD H11 0470 
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000001
    Coding: 0203010102
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 3163206668B7B9CB3C-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 R HW: 8K0 959 792 P
    Component: TSG BF H02 0511 
    Revision: Serial number: 0000179840507
    Coding: 011D12204D00440004
    Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
    VCID: 4E995B9A1949C63341-801A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (----) Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N HW: 8K0 907 801 J
    Component: EPB-4 H02 0005 
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 30000000458005
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
    ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
    VCID: 3A71074ABDC17A938D-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
    Part No SW: 8R1 035 195 H HW: 8R1 035 195 H
    Component: Symphony3 US H04 0461 
    Revision: 00000003 Serial number: AUZ5Z4P2182429
    Coding: 0402008201058500C15B071803
    Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
    VCID: 3A71074AB5C17A938D-806E
    
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 G HW: 8T0 919 603 G
    Component: Display 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G HW: 8K0 959 795 D
    Component: TSG HL H01 0510 
    Revision: Serial number: 0000178641588
    Coding: 010C12204000240004
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 468963BAF1390E73F9-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G HW: 8K0 959 795 D
    Component: TSG HR H01 0510 
    Revision: Serial number: 0000178641587
    Coding: 010C12204000240004
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 468963BAF1390E73F9-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
    Part No SW: 8T0 862 335 F HW: 8T0 862 335 E
    Component: FSE_256x BT H45 0660 
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005929370
    Coding: 0010350
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 3D7B0C5664EF4DABA8-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:34)--------------------------

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    Established Member Two Rings poncho@home's Avatar
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    This is the definition of overthinking it.

    Car tracks straight? Steering wheel is straight? Tires are not wearing unevenly? No noticeable issues when having front end aligned?

    Those readings might be normal or not, only an Audi engineer will know, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck...in other words, if everything seems normal, I wouldn't be concerned about those data points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poncho@home View Post
    This is the definition of overthinking it.

    Car tracks straight? Steering wheel is straight? Tires are not wearing unevenly? No noticeable issues when having front end aligned?

    Those readings might be normal or not, only an Audi engineer will know, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck...in other words, if everything seems normal, I wouldn't be concerned about those data points.
    I respectfully disagree. It might not be that simple. In fact, it could be a safety issue.

    Some Q5'er with VCDS out there? Would you please check controller address 16 - MVB 033 and see what angles you get from lock to lock?

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    Do not believe all the tests that you get with VCDS. In many segments VCDS is limited

    VCDS is not an official program, check with ODIS-S ( old VAS v19)
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    Quote Originally Posted by spijun View Post
    Do not believe all the tests that you get with VCDS. In many segments VCDS is limited

    VCDS is not an official program, check with ODIS-S ( old VAS v19)
    Ok, will do. In the meanwhile, any fellow Q5'er with VCDS would care to help me with this?

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