Unitronic Tune...

[turbojayc]

Just had my SQ5 flashed with the Unitronic Stage 2+ with Pulley Kit. Can't get to technically in regards to logs, and dynos as I don't have any. Dyno I will do again at some point, but not rushing.

Anyways, the car feels amazing. For those who don't know my history, I had a Chipwerke Pro for about 4 months, had it dyno'd and was making great numbers. However, I hated how it felt and was getting tons of overboost codes near the end. Anyways, decided to sell it and get a "real" tune. Went with Unitronic as a local indy shop near my house did the tune and I couldn't be happier. I have my 450hp back with a nice smooth powerband. No jerkiness and the drive is smother in Sport Dynamic then it was stock. Overall I love it.

[Jimminez@Nemesis]

Congrats. Time for the TD1 window sticker.

[turbojayc]

Congrats. Time for the TD1 window sticker.

Can't get a TD1 if you don't get caught

[connoisseurr]

True that ^

I'm hoping to go Uni stage 1 in the next 6 weeks or so. Definitely getting the uniconnect cable so I can easily switch back to stock.

[turbojayc]

True that ^

I'm hoping to go Uni stage 1 in the next 6 weeks or so. Definitely getting the uniconnect cable so I can easily switch back to stock.

Ya come time (if needed) to put back in stock, I'll get the uni-connect. For now, just enjoying the tune.

[poncho@home]

I saw your other post about chipwerke. I am debating whether I should do that for now, warranty ends end of this year, then I could sell the chipwerke and get a stage 1 unitronic tune after that.

Decisions decisions.

[connoisseurr]

That's great to hear! Everyone keeps trying to sell the APR route but I've had Unitronic on 3 previous vehicles with ZERO issues. Had a stage 2+ tune for a 2004 Jetta GLI about 7 years ago and it was the worst. Went Uni and never looked back.

[Jimminez@Nemesis]

Can't get a TD1 if you don't get caught

But that's why you get the sticker.

[turbojayc]

I saw your other post about chipwerke. I am debating whether I should do that for now, warranty ends end of this year, then I could sell the chipwerke and get a stage 1 unitronic tune after that.

Decisions decisions.

Chip was good, but not good enough. Power was great but drive ability became unbearable. Also made me nervous how it was getting worse. Like am I going to F%$k up my car? Anyways, yes the tune is a risk on a brand new car, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I'll deal with any obstacles that may or may not come up. (knock on wood)

[sszyma]

Just had my SQ5 flashed with the Unitronic Stage 2+ with Pulley Kit. Can't get to technically in regards to logs, and dynos as I don't have any. Dyno I will do again at some point, but not rushing.

Anyways, the car feels amazing. For those who don't know my history, I had a Chipwerke Pro for about 4 months, had it dyno'd and was making great numbers. However, I hated how it felt and was getting tons of overboost codes near the end. Anyways, decided to sell it and get a "real" tune. Went with Unitronic as a local indy shop near my house did the tune and I couldn't be happier. I have my 450hp back with a nice smooth powerband. No jerkiness and the drive is smother in Sport Dynamic then it was stock. Overall I love it.

Another vote for UNI! I have the same thing and have had zero issues. It makes the SQ5 what it should have been like all along.

[John@Unitronic]

Thanks for your feedback! Glad you're enjoying it, Jason!

[turbojayc]

Thanks for your feedback! Glad you're enjoying it, Jason!

Thanks again, John.

Oh and if you want great customer service, another reason to go with Uni. John has been amazing answering all questions and concerns right from my intiial email that was responded to within minutes. Emailed GIAC two weeks ago and yet to hear from them. Not bashing, but it's nice to know when you contact a company they get back to you. So for that, another great reason to chose Unitronic as service is a MUST in my books.

[petoria]

Exciting! turbojayc, can you post a vid? What exactly did you do for your exhaust?

[turbojayc]

Exciting! turbojayc, can you post a vid? What exactly did you do for your exhaust?

Video of what? Driving really fast lol. Custom cat back done here in Toronto by a local shop.

Some exhaust videos...

Dyno done this past winter.
http://vid4.photobucket.com/albums/y...AEFC4339E3.mp4

Basically the day of install
http://vid4.photobucket.com/albums/y...5568034209.mp4

[petoria]

Haha, sorry for not being clear, exhaust! But damn son, that sounds good.

[turbojayc]

Haha, sorry for not being clear, exhaust! But damn son, that sounds good.

Thanks man. Does sound ridiculously mean at WOT, I must say,

[BG SQ5]

Is Unitronic currently supporting 6900+rpm? I.e. does it support auto-upshift being disabled?

I'm between Unitronic and APR, and I'd like to make a decision before the end of the month to take advantage of their sales. My only issue with APR is the hassle and cost of flashing back to stock before dealer visits (I plan to take all possible TD1 precautions even if they aren't guaranteed). My issue with Unitronic is the apparent lack of high rpm tuning (hence the similar ~420hp peak stage 1+ figure APR had before their v2 update last year).

RANT...
It also bothers me that Unitronic doesn't have a SQ5-specific dyno graph to support the product. Does that mean they don't have an SQ5-specific tune and just a standard 3.0T one so to speak? APR very clearly produces different results for the SQ5 vs. B8.5 S4/S5...and the SQ5 puts down more power. I assume that's due to a small differences like the exhaust and added oil cooler. Regardless, why does Unitronic use the same graph for all 3.0T products? Is it because they use the same fundamental tune regardless of vehicle as opposed to more tailor-made tunes that account for minor differences? I understand off-the-shelf tuning is just that at the end of the day, and it's inherently not 'tailor-made'. However, it sure makes me feel better that the tuner company at least presents proof of some final development and testing on the vehicle itself. This would also include real world, road tuning that should never be overlooked. It comes down to more than just a 3.0t on a bench, and I'm wondering where the different companies stand on that.

BTW- GIAC step up your website/marketing game and forum presence. It's so pathetic that I would have a hard time even considering if there were any dealers within a few hours of me. Why are you dropping the ball on the easiest part?!

Whew, I feel better now, haha!

[sszyma]

I also am another happy Uni Stage 2+ customer. I really could care less about TD1 as we have a few dealers in Chicago who look the other way. The engine is robust so you will most likely not run into any issues with it. Piggy back "ECU's" are not the best way to tune any car if you can flash directly. The SQ5 and Q 3.0's engines are identical except for the tune and the extra radiator in the cooling circuit for the supercharger (right behind the driver side fog light cover). So with a flash the engines will have the same power about except the SQ has a little more ability to shrug off heat soak. Road tuning in conjunction with dyno tuning would be the way to go. Unfortunately road tuning is not as widespread as it is with the Mitsu/Subaru crowd. Pulley was a 1.5 hour install!

[BG SQ5]

I also am another happy Uni Stage 2+ customer.

So does it support auto-upshift being disabled?

[Adplaya]

Seems Uni's stage 1+ numbers are below APRs, however, stage 2+ is about equivalent to APR... Soo no reason to go just stage 1/+ with Uni I guess

[sszyma]

Numbers are just that. However even with stage 1+ the peak hp and tq may not be higher but the curve shifts a little to the left which results in more torque being available at a lower rpm's.

[BG SQ5]

Lol- I like how my very basic question keeps getting overlooked! If you can't rev past ~6500rpm, of course the (peak) hp numbers are going to be lower than APR. Unitronic's stage 2+ graph revs a little further than their stage 1+, so that closes some of the gap that we see when comparing with APR stage 1+. Based on the graphs though, it doesn't appear that Unitronic is actually supporting auto-upshift being disabled. Once again these appear to just be OTS 3.0T graphs and may not be indicative of the up-to-date, vehicle specific tune.

I have noticed the slight torque curve shift at lower rpms, but it doesn't look nearly as smooth as APR's so that's a bit of a wash for me.

[sszyma]

From what I can tell auto upshift is not disableed. The rev limit is increased as I have gone past 6500 a few times and then it shifted. I can live with that though since it is not a manual.

[BG SQ5]

From what I can tell auto upshift is not disableed. The rev limit is increased as I have gone past 6500 a few times and then it shifted. I can live with that though since it is not a manual.

Thanks for commenting on it. For the record, I don't believe any tune disables the auto-upshift. You have to do that yourself. The tune has to be set up for when you disable it though, so the car doesn't throw a code or go into limp mode when you go past the normal shift point.

All you have to do is put it in manual mode and don't shift. It should bounce the fuel cutoff around 7000rpm with no issue if it's disabled and the tune it set up for it. If it shifts for you in manual mode at ~6500, you don't have it disabled. If it doesn't shift and throws a code or goes limp, it's disabled but the tune doesn't support it.

This last 500rpm is peak power and not trivial at the drag strip when squeezing every last ounce out of the car. You're talking a solid 20-30 hp up there.

[BlackSVT]

This last 500rpm is peak power and not trivial at the drag strip when squeezing every last ounce out of the car. You're talking a solid 20-30 hp up there.

^^^ This. Plus you don't drop off the curve as much when you hit the next gear.

If I had to guess, I think you aren't getting much in the way of response to your question because it seems we don't have many Uni tuned S/Q5s around here. Lots of APR, and GIAC. I guess it's possible I've just missed all the discussions, but this is one of very few Uni threads that I've seen. Sounds like an opportunity to learn, have some fun and contribute what's found! More tunes is better

[BG SQ5]

I'm actually leaning towards EPL now, but that'll be a similar opportunity to contribute some new data.

I did hear back from John, and Unitronic does support the higher revs. Anyone with Unitronic should verify their file supports it and disable auto-upshift. You're spending money on a tune but leaving decent hp on the table for no good reason. Why AUTO-anything is exists in MANUAL mode is beyond me.

[turbojayc]

I'm actually leaning towards EPL now, but that'll be a similar opportunity to contribute some new data.

I did hear back from John, and Unitronic does support the higher revs. Anyone with Unitronic should verify their file supports it and disable auto-upshift. You're spending money on a tune but leaving decent hp on the table for no good reason. Why AUTO-anything is exists in MANUAL mode is beyond me.

VAG is needed to disable Auto Up Shift correct?

[SQive]

Yes. Did mine with RossTech.

[userbbc]

been contemplating unitronic but have read varying reviews. how's the throttle modulation after the tune? been reading about wot-like engine rpms at 50% throttle or so.