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    Veteran Member Four Rings agentsmith988's Avatar
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    Which injector cups are you running?

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    I've got some Verdict Motorsport billet injector cups that I installed a couple of years ago. Even after installing them I kept getting some blow by on cylinder 4. I didn't think it was that bad until doing a boost leak test today. I tried a new o-ring and it's still leaking just as bad.

    What's everyone running these days? The OEM plastic ones? Looks like Verdict has gone out of business...
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    Veteran Member Four Rings MikTip's Avatar
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    The plastic OE ones seem to be the only game in town...as the metal ones no longer seem to be available...



    However....I bought a set of the metal ones...they fade to white from the heat...
    2015 S3 with 210,000 miles with new 2019 Q5 motor. Still going!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings agentsmith988's Avatar
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    Looks like USRT and Phenix Engineering still sell them. USRT's site even says they're made by Verdict.

    I'm just trying to decide if I should try and buy new billet cups, or just pick up a set of plastic ones. I'm starting to see a bit of leaking from cyl 2 now that I've tried replacing cyl 4's o-ring a couple of times now.

    I've been using some Bosch W0133-1799824 o-rings that I purchased from AutohausAZ back in 2013. I guess it's possible that it was a bad batch or they're just getting old. Now to find somewhere I can buy new upper/lower o-rings for the 386cc's.
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    I use the phenix cups and they work well. No complaints.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    I just went with the OEM
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    OEM plastics.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings MikTip's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaustin View Post
    I just went with the OEM
    OEM is good!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings MikTip's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsmith988 View Post
    Looks like USRT and Phenix Engineering still sell them. USRT's site even says they're made by Verdict.
    Nice!
    2015 S3 with 210,000 miles with new 2019 Q5 motor. Still going!

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    Just tried swapping the injectors around to make sure it was actually the injector cup. It is... It's leaking this much with just a $10 cheap-o DC air compressor.

    Got rid of the cyl 2 leak with a new o-ring. Now to see if I can get Phenix or USRT sell me just one cup instead of having to buy an entire set!
    - Steve
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    I'll definitely suggest OEM after battling everything that Verdict had to offer. When I replaced mine it ended up taking a month to even get them (after being told that the black anodized were not in stock although the website said otherwise). Then when I did get them, I ended up having to bore the holes out by a couple thousandths of an inch because the injector wouldn't fit into it without completely mashing the o-ring. Clearly Verdict had some quality control issues that was probably a portion of their demise.
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