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    Veteran Member Four Rings SteveKen's Avatar
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    C5 RS6 Manual Conversion Adapter Kit - Includes Flywheel, Starter, Engine Adapter, HW

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    For sale is a kit for allowing the RS6 to mate with the 01E transmission.

    Kit includes:

    1. Steel flywheel (~20 lbs) which is designed to work with the clutch P/N for a 2.7T dual mass flywheel.

    2. Custom starter, as the stock starter will interfere with he block (and no one wants to grind away material on the block that's pretty much exclusive to just the RS6)

    3. Engine - Trans adapter ring that bolts up to the 01E prior to mating to the engine.

    4. Hardware to be used in conjunction with a few of the stock bolts for mating the engine to the transmission. (In all, 13 bolts hold the engine and transmission together)

    5. Detailed instructions.



    All custom parts were professionally designed by 3D laser scanning teh RS6 block and 01E. Engine - Trans adapter and starter nose are CNC'd from 6061 aluminum.

    $2250 shipped CONUS

    Delivery within 1 week of payment
    Last edited by SteveKen; 06-09-2016 at 06:52 PM.
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    Established Member Two Rings
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    I'd love to know where I can get that starter motor adapter. I am doing a swap using the same pattern v8 block.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings LittleDozer's Avatar
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    What would this kit run without the flywheel?
    2004 Misano RS6 In Progress - Porsche GT3 Bosche Injectors / 3" Catless Downpipes / AMD Intercoolers / AMD E85 Tune / AMD 'Tip Chip' / KW V1 / Hotchkis F&R Sway / Moog End Links / Wagner Fog Delete / Flat Bottom Steering Wheel / Gunmetal TSW Bathurst 19x8.5 with 255 Indy 500s / 30% Tint 50% Windshield / Dension BT Module

    01E swap purchased, collecting the remainder of bits needed

    Gone and missed: Black Pearl C6 A6 4.2FSI, Full bolt-on Monsoon B8.5 S4

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    Veteran Member Four Rings SteveKen's Avatar
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    it will not run without the flywheel. it is custom made with the correct reluctor orientation and 2.2 mm thicker to make up for the added 2.2 mm thickness of the adapter. it is compatible with any clutch and pressure plate that is used for the 2.7T dual mass flywheel.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings SteveKen's Avatar
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    The only other block with this same pattern would be from a D3 A8. If not, chances are that the starter nose will not work for your application.

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    id like to buy a manual conversion kit for my rs6 plus, that's on its second torque convertor in 18months lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveKen View Post
    it will not run without the flywheel. it is custom made with the correct reluctor orientation and 2.2 mm thicker to make up for the added 2.2 mm thickness of the adapter. it is compatible with any clutch and pressure plate that is used for the 2.7T dual mass flywheel.
    Just to confirm, the Clutch Master flywheel made for manual swapped C5 RS6 isn't compatible with your spacer/adapter? https://www.fastaudi.com/store/Clutc...heel-p57656090
    2004 Misano RS6 In Progress - Porsche GT3 Bosche Injectors / 3" Catless Downpipes / AMD Intercoolers / AMD E85 Tune / AMD 'Tip Chip' / KW V1 / Hotchkis F&R Sway / Moog End Links / Wagner Fog Delete / Flat Bottom Steering Wheel / Gunmetal TSW Bathurst 19x8.5 with 255 Indy 500s / 30% Tint 50% Windshield / Dension BT Module

    01E swap purchased, collecting the remainder of bits needed

    Gone and missed: Black Pearl C6 A6 4.2FSI, Full bolt-on Monsoon B8.5 S4

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Steve are these kits made to order or
    are they always available? Also is it not
    possible to run a single mass flywheel with this setup? What’s the strongest clutch & flywheel setup you can run with
    your kit?

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    Senior Member Three Rings Wide-66's Avatar
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    His FW is single mass steel. The FW is very nice it is made by aasco (or at least the one i got). I am using an AMD stage plus clutch and it has been great. Steve got me out the kit very fast maybe a week max. Whatever you do dont buy the TTV it is a pile of shit. It will bolt up but the tone ring is machined wrong.

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    Available?

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    Never had any issues with any TTV flywheels, and till date, I’ve fitted 16.

    Steve’s set up is good, but it will move the engine further forwards by approx. 2.5mm. Not a lot, but with the Audi’s tendency to understeer, every mm in forward length / mass gained is not great.

    I was able to mate my D3 block to an 01E, without an adapter plate, using 11 of the 13 bolt holes, after having the block machined, drilled and tapped. I also had some custom clamping billet aluminium brackets made, where it was not possible to drill and tap the block.

    Genuine Audi starter motor was used.

    Overall cost was just under $320. The greatest inconvenience was physically transporting the engine and transmission to my machinist.

    Another cheap option is to swap the internals of the BCY / BRV motor to a C5 A6 V8 / S6 40V block.
    2003 B6 Audi A4 Avant Quattro Sport | 3.0 V6 | 6MT | Denim Blue Pearl | B6 S4 “Black Optik” Grille | Votex Kit | Black Leather - Part Out.

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    2002 Toyota Runx |1.4L DOHC 16V Auto.

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    If I had a RS6, I would definitely jump on this, kuddos to this kit and maker..Great Job

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    Senior Member Three Rings Wide-66's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nollywood View Post
    Never had any issues with any TTV flywheels, and till date, I’ve fitted 16.

    Steve’s set up is good, but it will move the engine further forwards by approx. 2.5mm. Not a lot, but with the Audi’s tendency to understeer, every mm in forward length / mass gained is not great.

    I was able to mate my D3 block to an 01E, without an adapter plate, using 11 of the 13 bolt holes, after having the block machined, drilled and tapped. I also had some custom clamping billet aluminium brackets made, where it was not possible to drill and tap the block.

    Genuine Audi starter motor was used.

    Overall cost was just under $320. The greatest inconvenience was physically transporting the engine and transmission to my machinist.

    Another cheap option is to swap the internals of the BCY / BRV motor to a C5 A6 V8 / S6 40V block.


    You have done 16 RS6 manual conversions using the ttv?

    It moves the motor forward? If anything it will push the driveline back.

    I think this is cool but not at all practical if you are only just an RS6 guy with a blown up trans.

    Really not cheap by comparison to the adapter kit if you replace all the gaskets/tbelt/machine shop coupled with the overall downtime. I agree for us guys its a good way to go but cant deny the bolt in and go ability if you buy the adapter kit.

    Not arguing just for people that dont do their own wrenching block swapping is not a cheap option.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Nollywood's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wide-66 View Post
    You have done 16 RS6 manual conversions using the ttv?

    It moves the motor forward? If anything it will push the driveline back.

    I think this is cool but not at all practical if you are only just an RS6 guy with a blown up trans.

    Really not cheap by comparison to the adapter kit if you replace all the gaskets/tbelt/machine shop coupled with the overall downtime. I agree for us guys its a good way to go but cant deny the bolt in and go ability if you buy the adapter kit.

    Not arguing just for people that dont do their own wrenching block swapping is not a cheap option.
    No. I have done 16 V8 engine matings to manual gearboxes. The tone ring is not C5 RS6 specific, the TDC trigger is in the same place for all 077-series engines, both 32 and 40V.

    Yes. The adapter plate pushes the engine forwards. Both the engine and transmission sit on mounts, that take holes slightly larger than the bolts that go through them. But the transmission is also mated to the shifter, and more importantly, the driveshaft.

    The engine on the other hand is not restricted in the same way. In addition, the engine lower consoles are multi-holed, to allow the engine to sit in different orientation.

    This is why the 2.7T can be mounted with or without the 11.2mm spacer ring. Losing the spacer ring doesn’t make the transmission move forwards. It makes the engine move rearwards, using the next set of rearward holes in the engine lower consoles.
    2003 B6 Audi A4 Avant Quattro Sport | 3.0 V6 | 6MT | Denim Blue Pearl | B6 S4 “Black Optik” Grille | Votex Kit | Black Leather - Part Out.

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    2002 Toyota Runx |1.4L DOHC 16V Auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nollywood View Post
    No. I have done 16 V8 engine matings to manual gearboxes. The tone ring is not C5 RS6 specific, the TDC trigger is in the same place for all 077-series engines, both 32 and 40V.

    Yes. The adapter plate pushes the engine forwards. Both the engine and transmission sit on mounts, that take holes slightly larger than the bolts that go through them. But the transmission is also mated to the shifter, and more importantly, the driveshaft.

    The engine on the other hand is not restricted in the same way. In addition, the engine lower consoles are multi-holed, to allow the engine to sit in different orientation.

    This is why the 2.7T can be mounted with or without the 11.2mm spacer ring. Losing the spacer ring doesn’t make the transmission move forwards. It makes the engine move rearwards, using the next set of rearward holes in the engine lower consoles.
    So have you done a manual install on a C5 RS6 retaining the 10 bolt crank utilizing ttv’s flywheel specific for this application? I was simply making a PSA that I caught the issue and when it was brought up w Ben Crisp it was ignored. He advised me to move ahead with install brushing me off. Against my better judgement i finished assembly and got the no start. It was nit until then that he told me he had a number of bad flywheels out there but not sure how many. So this guy knowingly advised me to install knowing a potential problem with the tone ring clocking could exist. Thats just shitty.

    As for the motor in my RS6 it 100% did not move forward (3 points of constraint on engine) and yes I utilized the original holes in the mounts. The trans mount holes is where that extra distance was made up. Driveshaft cvs had no issue splitting the difference added by the spacer.

    Im speaking from my experience RS6 specific in regards to the TTV RS6 specific flywheel.



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