AMS or AWE?

[cspcrx]

So other than the fact that the AWE is 20% off vs the AMS 15%. Does one off something over the other. I am looking at getting a full kit. I would add the screen to the AWE which would make the price almost the exact same.

Thanks

[Trent212]

Thing I'm wondering is if i can get the APR ADS cooler, and put it with either of the set ups and make it work. Since i see nothing about a ADS cooler in either set up it kinda worries me.

Kinda late in the game since i already bought and have an AMS cooler sitting in my garage >.>

[fitzydude]

Damn AWE!!! Just when I had settled on the AMS they have to go and do this... I think I'll stick with Ams because I'll get the 20% discount with the group buy when I upgrade to the dual pulley tune. I like that the AMS is not a divorced system like the AWE. I like that the AMS has a stronger heat exchanger that should be more resistant to damage. I'll still add some screening to protect it.

I don't like that I'll be paying $50 shipping for the AMS and that I'll have to buy the stupid rivet tool that I'll only use once for $55. If the EPL group buy falls though I'll be ordering the AWE.

[jl87]

AWE is divorced, replaces factory pump, and has bleeder valves on the cooler to get rid of trapped air.

AMS is not divorced, adds a secondary pump, triple pass core(not sure about AWE)

[whiped]

I am probably just going to do the AWE heat exchanger and protective mesh only.

This should be <$1000 and drop IATs substantially.

If you look at the specs on their website and a review from here(don't have a link handy as I'm on my phone) I believe it is the best bang for the buck.

I have no interest in tracking my car but, this should give me enough headroom to go dual pulley safely for every day driving.

[cspcrx]

when I was looking early on I noticed that as well. Both APR and AWE should not much additional gains from the pump, the majority came from the cooler.

[Thurston]

AWE is divorced, replaces factory pump, and has bleeder valves on the cooler to get rid of trapped air.

AMS is not divorced, adds a secondary pump, triple pass core(not sure about AWE)

So to a layman, which would be more desirable, divorced or non? My question Is, isn't there a part you can do without (maybe a pump or something) that's a 800$ part or so; while still achieving low Temps, which part is that? I'll have to search for one of the testing threads but I know my car could use this system I just am not knowledgeable enough.

[cspcrx]

My concern with divorced is there is no longer a sensor to warn you of a leak. You need to check things to make sure you still have fluid. That is one factor that has me leaning to the AMS, if there is a leak the factor sensors would alert me to it.

[fitzydude]

Does anyone know which system might be quieter? The after market pumps can been a bit noisy I hear.

[jl87]

So to a layman, which would be more desirable, divorced or non? My question Is, isn't there a part you can do without (maybe a pump or something) that's a 800$ part or so; while still achieving low Temps, which part is that? I'll have to search for one of the testing threads but I know my car could use this system I just am not knowledgeable enough.

As far as desirability, it really is up to the individual. Do you want OE sensors in place in case of a coolant leak, or do you want the supercharger to have its own designated loop? According to AMS, there was minimal benefit gained by having a divorced system vs non divorced. As far as what you're seeming to look for, the heat exchanger and reservoir will give you improved cooling over stock and should be around $956 with the 20% AWE discount. The pump adds a lot of expense to the kit and I know that APR actually got rid of their pump all-together on their previous CPS system.

[waxxonMTL]

ams dont allow you to buy speperately like awe do.

[waxxonMTL]

let say you are still CPO.. in this case, would you do a cooling mod or the dealer will def. deny a warranty because of the new hardware ?

[kcobourn]

Does anyone know which system might be quieter? The after market pumps can been a bit noisy I hear.

Not sure anyone has compared side-by-side this is the best I was able to find when I ended up choosing AMS. Their 'sale' drove me to do this sooner than expected.

For the AMS see post #13 : http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-System-Review
For the AWE see post #1: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...buse-Mandatory

My deciding factor was their reputation on other platforms, ability to detect if there's a leak via sensors (who has the time to check this, really?), and the triple pass HE seemed like it's the tits.

Probably going to be nosier, but with my diff mount whine already there who gives a f**k.

[Chris@EPL]

LMK if anyone wants in on the AMS group buy. We are 1 official person away and we start taking orders for the 15% or 20% off if purchasing EPL software or upgrading your EPL tunes.

[mrmomo313]

Does anyone know which system might be quieter? The after market pumps can been a bit noisy I hear.

Can't speak for AWE but the AMS pump becomes audible when you open any door with the car off or when you unlock the car. It just makes a whirring noise that is moderate in tone. It's not a quiet whir but not obtrusive enough to where you'd dislike the system... If you really want I can take a video of it. It doesn't bother me at all... Nice reminder that it's there and ready to work for you lol

Coming on 2 years now with my kit and I have nothing but praise for it. Took one brutal michigan winter without getting dinged up. It's allowing me to run pretty much as fast as I do in the fall with this summer heat. Very happy about that!

[cspcrx]

Thanks for the feedback. Your pushing the system for sure running a double pulley setup!

[AudiTFSI3o3]

Have had the AMS system since last summer. Yeah the pump comes on when the car is off but it doesn't really bother me. It's not obnoxious in any way


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[Loe]

Can't speak for AWE but the AMS pump becomes audible when you open any door with the car off or when you unlock the car. It just makes a whirring noise that is moderate in tone. It's not a quiet whir but not obtrusive enough to where you'd dislike the system... If you really want I can take a video of it. It doesn't bother me at all... Nice reminder that it's there and ready to work for you lol

Coming on 2 years now with my kit and I have nothing but praise for it. Took one brutal michigan winter without getting dinged up. It's allowing me to run pretty much as fast as I do in the fall with this summer heat. Very happy about that!

Same, the AWE pump is audible whenever the ECU is woken up (door opening/closing, trunk opening/closing, hood opening/closing, using the key to unlock/lock, ignition in the open position etc etc...). I think its just the nature of the beast with any pump upgrade as they pretty much hook directly to the battery for the power line. You really only hear it sitting in the drivers seat, barely any hum in any other seating position in the AWE unit as the pump is in the factory driver side location, which makes me wonder if the acoustics are different on the AMS unit since the supplement pump is on the passenger side?

[DBL R]

I am probably just going to do the AWE heat exchanger and protective mesh only.

This should be <$1000 and drop IATs substantially.

If you look at the specs on their website and a review from here(don't have a link handy as I'm on my phone) I believe it is the best bang for the buck.

I have no interest in tracking my car but, this should give me enough headroom to go dual pulley safely for every day driving.

After a lot of thinking with pros and cons, I think this is the most cost effective/least invasive way to get reliably lowered IAT's.

[whiped]

After a lot of thinking with pros and cons, I think this is the most cost effective/least invasive way to get reliably lowered IAT's.

I am on the fence right now if I want to add in the reservoir and divorce the systems. (Sizable cooling gain and according to Loe in the other thread drops the pressure considerably which in theory should be safer)

Extra cost with current deals: $160

I am waiting to pick my mechanics brain to see what he thinks but, I will probably go that route.

Total cost for parts is $1,100 but, will allow me to jump straight to dual pulley when I go stage II

[DBL R]

I am on the fence right now if I want to add in the reservoir and divorce the systems. (Sizable cooling gain and according to Loe in the other thread drops the pressure considerably which in theory should be safer)

Extra cost with current deals: $160

I am waiting to pick my mechanics brain to see what he thinks but, I will probably go that route.

Total cost for parts is $1,100 but, will allow me to jump straight to dual pulley when I go stage II

I'm still waiting to see what others do, and find out what works best. Keep us posted on what you pick, and how it works for you.

[cspcrx]

I jumped on the AMS sale. I like that it is not divorced. This is my DD, I need the support of the systems to tell me if something unexpected happens. Its been over 112F out almost for a week now so I knew I wanted a system with the extra pump. Need every bit of help you can in this damn heat! I like the extra protection of the AMS design. Anyone who lives in the SW knows how much sand, dust, small rocks, big rocks, etc there are on the roads. I was waiting on APR but it was still going to be a toss up between them and AMS. Hopefully they do not come out with something game changing in cooling. Don't see it how though.

[Chris@EPL]

A lot of people have asked. The B8 AMS kit will not work with dynamic steering unless you get a relocation kit.

The B8.5 kits work just fine with dynamic steering.