MMI 3G+ Conversion from MMI 3G(2010-2012) DIY with Component Protection removed.

[Willabus]

Also from OP:

"In other posts a Module 4G0 035 082(HD radio) is what is prefered. My car is a MY10 it had a Radio module 4F0 035 082A(non HD radio), it worked half the time, the volume would mute out and when you try and adjust the volume it would be "Currently Unavailable". Note: you need to have component protection removed for this module also."

I'm confused why you'd need to replace the Radio Module. I thought MMI Unit and Radio Unit are one in the same?
It not, how would I find out which radio unit I have?
I have a 12 A4 Prestige so I'm assuming it would come with 4G0 035 082.

Thanks!

[Gunnark100]

Also from OP:

"In other posts a Module 4G0 035 082(HD radio) is what is prefered. My car is a MY10 it had a Radio module 4F0 035 082A(non HD radio), it worked half the time, the volume would mute out and when you try and adjust the volume it would be "Currently Unavailable". Note: you need to have component protection removed for this module also."

I'm confused why you'd need to replace the Radio Module. I thought MMI Unit and Radio Unit are one in the same?
It not, how would I find out which radio unit I have?
I have a 12 A4 Prestige so I'm assuming it would come with 4G0 035 082.

Thanks!

Radio unit and mmi unit is not one unit, radio unit is located in the trunk left side, part number you can find on the unit or via vcds module nr 56. 2012 should be 4G0, but you may double check that just in case!

[jaycurn]

Hi guys, Just did this upgrade in my 2012 Prestige A4 Avant (3G Plus MMI module, control panel and FL Climate Control) and everything is working great with one exception; Anything to do with bluetooth phone or voice to text is super crackly and basically unusable. BT streaming music etc works great however. Anyone else experience this or have any suggestions? I did not have this issue with the BT on my pre-fl 3G MMI module.

[A4 Centaur]

Can't you make changes to the Mic in VCDS?

[jaycurn]

Can't you make changes to the Mic in VCDS?

Not sure but i'd love some info on this. Maybe it could be a coding issue? Sounds almost like the mic is "clipping" and the sensitivity needs to be adjusted, but I have yet to find out where or how. There is an adjustment in the MMI green menu diagnostics screen, but it had zero affect.

[svander]

Did you get this figured out?

I did this install last night and removed component protection myself with the help of ould (thanks again, man!) - I do have a commmunication code on the 5F module but another thing I noticed is that my unit doesn't "ring" when I get a call, if that makes any sense. Still tying to figure that one out.

[jaycurn]

Did you get this figured out?

I did this install last night and removed component protection myself with the help of ould (thanks again, man!) - I do have a commmunication code on the 5F module but another thing I noticed is that my unit doesn't "ring" when I get a call, if that makes any sense. Still tying to figure that one out.

No, unfortunately my problem persists. I have even installed the fakra cable, routed to my sharkfin, to see if the GSM antenna was somehow related. It did not fix the problem, so now I am thinking it might actually be the unit itself or my OEM BT mic, which is either gone bad coincidentally or is not compatible somehow.

[svander]

Has anyone figured out how to request that Audi updates the car's VIN to reflect it's equipped with MMI 3G+ so that the web services via my.audi.com can be used?

[lamarboards00]

From OP:

"MMI-Controls: 8T0 919 611 C WFX or 8T0 919 611 L WFX (with Start/Stop button) or 8T0 919 611 B WFX (without Start/Stop button)"

Can someone tell me what the difference between the "C" and "L" are?
Is an auto transmission a different part number?

Thanks!

Can't comment on the C and L, but auto should be the same part. The P/R/DS part of the center console can be removed from the rest, and I assume moved over to the new trim piece. I just bought one from an auto, and used it in my 6MT.

[ians]

I just have my car at the dealer to remove the CP, they just called me, the NAVI is working perfectly fine but the climate control is not. They told me that it still have no air blowing out from the fan. So they suspected that the climate control from b8.5 is not compatible to a b8 (2011 avant). So any idea what's wrong?

[CardFan]

I just have my car at the dealer to remove the CP, they just called me, the NAVI is working perfectly fine but the climate control is not. They told me that it still have no air blowing out from the fan. So they suspected that the climate control from b8.5 is not compatible to a b8 (2011 avant). So any idea what's wrong?

Have you done this?

[ians]

Have you done this?

Thanks! my car is still at the dealer, will do that once I pick it back up

[audistealth]

Pasternack is an alternate source for the antenna cable (made in USA, unlike RG174 the LMR100 is a communications coax cable around the same physical size and is low loss):

https://www.pasternack.com/fakra-jac...urementUnit=cm

@jlaudio

[jlaudio]

@jlaudio

awesome thanks for such a quick response.

what length did you order?

[audistealth]

awesome thanks for such a quick response.

what length did you order?

Looks like 500 cm (gauging from link, I don't actually remember). It's the same length that everyone else purchased, whatever that may be.

EDIT: length is also in OP

[jlaudio]

Looks like 500 cm (gauging from link, I don't actually remember). It's the same length that everyone else purchased, whatever that may be.

EDIT: length is also in OP

thanks, 500cm/16 feet. any difference in rg174 vs lmr100 cable? I'm assuming your running the cable you linked? Looking to purchase today.

[audistealth]

thanks, 500cm/16 feet. any difference in rg174 vs lmr100 cable? I'm assuming your running the cable you linked? Looking to purchase today.

The RF people said the lmr is low loss and designed for runs of this length. That said, is seems like people are doing fine with rg174. You could contact their customer service department - I recall they were very helpful.

[ians]

Thanks! follow the vagcom, my AC is working now. However, I run into another mirror issue. I used to enable to open the windows through MMI on my 11 avant however after updated with the new MMI 3G+, I lost this feature and not able to find it from the MMI too. So anyone run into this issue? Can that be enable through vagcom?

[skinnytirez]

Has anyone figured out how to request that Audi updates the car's VIN to reflect it's equipped with MMI 3G+ so that the web services via my.audi.com can be used?

No- but be sure to post if you do... super frustrating.

[Gunnark100]

No- but be sure to post if you do... super frustrating.

This is probably biggest low point for 3g+ retrofit, but as many say, useless to use online account anyway via mmi etc... There was one guy years ago, who got pin code for online and got it working on retrofit car, but he did not wrote how it was approved!

[Ford Prefect]

So apparently my non MMI car has ADS but without the suspension, so says the manual. Curious if anyone knows if upgrading to MMI will allow individual control (sans suspension, obviously).

I believe I read that you can default to dynamic with MMI. If so I might keep all the equipment. I'm only needing cables from Fakra was considering selling it all.


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[JaB6]

Is there a way to tell if the MMI you get has the updated modem (supposedly cars after 2013)?

[Sofreshs5]

I have a 2012 s5 that had 3G high system and hdd radio. I've upgraded the MMI to 3G+. I had CP removed and now the only thing that works is the radio. My Nav and Media will not "initialize". Did I miss something.

[briceportier]

What if there was a way to completely bypass symphonys, concerts, MMI2/3G Highs & Lows, etc and (almost) instantly upgrade your B8 to a B9:

http://cloud.tapatal...ist(public).pdf

I've been following Daniel's progress for some time and what he has achieved almost single handedly is nothing short of exceptional... Have a look...

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[wurldfamuz]

I have a 2012 s5 that had 3G high system and hdd radio. I've upgraded the MMI to 3G+. I had CP removed and now the only thing that works is the radio. My Nav and Media will not "initialize". Did I miss something.

check you connections in the rear of the mmi and make sure there all cables are plugged in and to the correct plugs.

[ians]

All my conversion is done and working perfectly with audi connect and google map. But still have 1 minor hiccup, under MMI the "Garage door opener" option is grey out and my car did come with garage door opener and it is still working just the setting under MMI is not available anymore after the conversion. Any idea?

[briceportier]

What if there was a way to completely bypass symphonys, concerts, MMI2/3G Highs & Lows, etc and (almost) instantly upgrade your B8 to a B9:

http://cloud.tapatal...ist(public).pdf

I've been following Daniel's progress for some time and what he has achieved almost single handedly is nothing short of exceptional... Have a look...

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Just in case this is the link to the thread (and pdf within): http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12630449

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[briceportier]

Their website is now up and running (https://rsnav.com) and there is loads of info/Q&As here: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=730317

[Poodini]

So I have a '10 S Line with no MMI/Nav. Just the Symphony with B&O speaker system. I had gotten everything to do the 3G retrofit but now I'm thinking I wanna go 3G+!
So aside from the head unit, control panel, and radio, what else will I need? I already have the kuftec and fakra cables, rear mount for the radio, etc.
Any/all advice much appreciated!


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[briceportier]

Silly question but why and what for?

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[Poodini]

If you're asking me,

1). I'm sick of Tune2Air's shitty Bluetooth linking when streaming music.

2). I'm planning to keep the car as long as it'll hold up so updating it would bring it up to speed tech-wise.

3). Because it can be had for a fraction of the cost vs selecting it as an option (wc obviously wasn't available yet for my yr) at the stealership.

Plus, it looks F'n cool!

Need I go on?..


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[briceportier]

Check my previous post... now that's f'ing cool...

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[Poodini]

Check my previous post... now that's f'ing cool...

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Link won't open..

PM me so we don't clog up the forum but based on the descriptions, that WOULD be F'ng cool!


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[jlaudio]

Well there are a ton of threads out there, but you need to really read all of them to actually know what you need to buy to do the conversion. I finally had time to get mine installed this weekend so I am putting all the info here in one post that i used to do the conversion.

I have a 2010 S4 with 3G B&O, the MMI 3G goes to the 2012MY.

I purchased the Head unit and Control Panel off Ebay. Cost me around $600 for the parts to do the conversion.

Really like the newer interface, also brings Video over through MMI, Bluetooth Audio without an adapter, and Google Maps.

What you need:
Head Unit 8R1 035 746C (A and B also work, C is just newer, i believe it goes to F now also)

MMI-Controls: 8T0 919 611 C WFX or 8T0 919 611 L WFX (with Start/Stop button) or 8T0 919 611 B WFX (without Start/Stop button)

In other posts a Module 4G0 035 082(HD radio) is what is prefered. My car is a MY10 it had a Radio module 4F0 035 082A(non HD radio), it worked half the time, the volume would mute out and when you try and adjust the volume it would be "Currently Unavailable". Note: you need to have component protection removed for this module also.

There has been mention that if you have the Radio Module 4G0 035 082"G", it will not function correctly for Sirius.
I purchased a 4G0 035 082 without a suffix as that was reported to work well. Had a ton of speaker codes pop up with this unit and audio wouldn't work. Found that the coding had a subwoofer amp turned on (you can also see the subwoofer option in the audio settings). to fix this, change the coding to 0200070(1)0000000001. There was a (2) before. This will fix the speaker errors and play out audio to the amp.
You can Check with a Vagcom Addreess 56-Radio to verify what you have.

GSM Antenna cable. I ordered mine from: (people also just use a generic GSM antenna off ebay with the Fakra connector and mount it by the window instead of using the OEM antenna that is already in the car.)
rfsupplier.com > Custom RF Cable Assembly Wizard:

1 x Coax Type: RG174; Length: 500cm; Connector A: Fakra D Right Angle Jack; Connector B: Fakra D Straight Jack (F03DSJ-F03DRJ-174-500)



Removing the Head Unit, MMI controls, running the Antenna wire are well documented from Richib86
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=1#post8091112

Some Tips and hints that you may run into:

Enable The hidden Menu Via Vagcom
[5F - Information Electr.]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 6 -> Change 0 to 1

To get into the hidden Menu hold the Car and Menu buttons down for 5 seconds.

My unit came out of an A4 so the Splash screen said A4 when powered up.
To change this in the hidden menu:
car/carcodingvehicle
Select No of Screen:
15 --> A4
16 --> A4 Allroad
17 --> S4
18 --> RS4


The car it came out of also didnt have ADS.
To add the ADS menu, just do the portions of this Guide that are in the hidden menu.
http://audienthusiasts.com/VagCom_FL_ADS.html

While you are in the hidden Menu, its a good time to activate the following if you want:
Enable Battery meter
[Hidden menu] [car] [cardevextdevicelist] [Battery] Enable
[Hidden menu] [car] [carmenuoperation] [Battery] Set to 5


I had 2 Faults after the install, they dont affect the unit, but if you want to get rid of them:

03276 - Please Check Software Version Management
http://www.audienthusiasts.com/Appli..._SVMError.html

03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption
Is due to having an option in the MMI car selection screen that the car does not support, ie: interior lighting. You need to go into the hidden menu and clear out the ones not compatible.

You may get error 03175 and this post shows how to get rid of it
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...1#post10353818

your PM box is full!

just a quick question. in your 3G+ mmi upgrade thread you mention this:

In other posts a Module 4G0 035 082(HD radio) is what is prefered. My car is a MY10 it had a Radio module 4F0 035 082A(non HD radio), it worked half the time, the volume would mute out and when you try and adjust the volume it would be "Currently Unavailable". Note: you need to have component protection removed for this module also.

I also have a 2010 and upgraded last weekend. If the MMI fully shuts down overnight and boots completely in the morning, it works fine. If i stop for gas or an errand, then restart the car, my sirius radio, regular radio, and SD card music output mutes out/skips about every 7 seconds.

Was this the same experience you had? I have a 4G0 035 082G radio that i was going to try, scored on ebay for $40 bucks. But i want to verify that it is the problem before i pay the $120 for component protection removal.

thanks!

[chuvak]

hello. Can someone please help me. I upgraded to 3g+ in my 2011 s4 I purchased the head unit part #8R1 035 746 H 0937
8R1 035 746 G H43
My radio In the trunk part number 4G0 035 082. So here is the problem my mmi head unit randomly won't turn on after I shut the car off for 1 hour come back it's stays black no matter what I do only thing works is to unplug the mmi 3g+ plug from the back press eject button then it will reboot. Did I get bad head unit? Or do I need to replace my radio in the trunk to 4g0 035 082 G since my second numbers ends with letter G on the head unit. Or do I need to purchase new mmi 3g+ ending with C. Please help thank you

[CrownSeven]

hello. Can someone please help me. I upgraded to 3g+ in my 2011 s4 I purchased the head unit part #8R1 035 746 H 0937
8R1 035 746 G H43
My radio In the trunk part number 4G0 035 082. So here is the problem my mmi head unit randomly won't turn on after I shut the car off for 1 hour come back it's stays black no matter what I do only thing works is to unplug the mmi 3g+ plug from the back press eject button then it will reboot. Did I get bad head unit? Or do I need to replace my radio in the trunk to 4g0 035 082 G since my second numbers ends with letter G on the head unit. Or do I need to purchase new mmi 3g+ ending with C. Please help thank you

This has happened to me once, and the solution was similar to yours, I had to unplug the power from the MMI unit and plug it back in. Not sure why it happened unfortunately - but its only happened once so far in the year that I've done the conversion. Could be a faulty MMI unit, not sure.

[chuvak]

Mine keeps shutting off over and over again. It makes me mad and frustrated. Just want to fix it but don't know where to start?? Don't want to buy new 3G+ and then have same problem.

[Gunnark100]

Mine keeps shutting off over and over again.

Same was before you removed CP?

[chuvak]

Same was before you removed CP?

. Yes I removed CP.

[chuvak]

When I had my 3G unit I had no problems.