JHM RS6's VS. SRM RS6's

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 07:30 AM

I see a lot of people running SRM's and i'm wondering if they're a better option than JHM. What's everyones take on these two?

**Royal769sr** · 05-31-2016 07:34 AM

Both good options. But I haven't heard of too many people lately grabbing the jhmd. But I think they have good quality stuff and are devoted to our platform and more.

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**freuds** · 05-31-2016 07:50 AM

i'm torn because i'm definitely going to make the upgrade soon. I just don't really know a lot about SRM.

**Corbett** · 05-31-2016 08:58 AM

Both are from China. One company admits it. One does not.

**naudlee** · 05-31-2016 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Corbett

Both are from China. One company admits it. One does not.

Troof... There also is another exact same turbo sans branding thats been around since before either, also admits China openly & freely. :)

**88ninety9** · 05-31-2016 10:37 AM

Aren't all the bolt in ready rs6 turbos chinese? I thought the bw's had to be refitted (cut and rewelded)...

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 10:40 AM

Yep the BW RS6 turbos have to be chopped I heard as well. In terms of reliability, does anyone know which brand is best?

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**Yuppie** · 05-31-2016 11:44 AM

In my opinion more important then where it is built/assembled is the QC. If BW RS6 is an option then I would go that route.

**S4gasm aka LOTR** · 05-31-2016 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Yuppie

In my opinion more important then where it is built/assembled is the QC. If BW RS6 is an option then I would go that route.

You're going to deal with pretty significant lag on full framed RS6's on the 2.7. Hence the reason SRM did k24 cold side. That was part of my deciding factor.

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 12:36 PM

How long have you been running the SRM K24's?

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**Corradovolksb** · 05-31-2016 01:09 PM

I have 1500 miles at 23psi on my SRM k24s and so far no complaints at all. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the SRM inlets not fitting over the valve covers very well but it's not that big of a deal.

**Drehmoment** · 05-31-2016 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by S4gasm aka LOTR

You're going to deal with pretty significant lag on full framed RS6's on the 2.7. Hence the reason SRM did k24 cold side. That was part of my deciding factor.

False, the SRM units have a larger compressor wheel than the real RS6 turbos so there is actually more lag
K24 is the BW or in this case Chicom cold side aka compressor wheel not turbine, the SRM turbine is most likely clipped

**rockcandy** · 05-31-2016 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by S4gasm aka LOTR

You're going to deal with pretty significant lag on full framed RS6's on the 2.7. Hence the reason SRM did k24 cold side. That was part of my deciding factor.

I also disagree. I ran OEM RS6 turbos on my car for years and thought they were pretty kick ass. As far as seat of the pants feel, I don't recall much difference between the Srm units and factory rs6 turbos. I know they're different a little on paper but I've ridden in both and feel the difference is relatively negligible.

**S4gasm aka LOTR** · 05-31-2016 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by freuds

How long have you been running the SRM K24's?

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2300 miles at 26-27 psi, rock solid so far.

Originally Posted by Drehmoment

False, the SRM units have a larger compressor wheel than the real RS6 turbos so there is actually more lag
K24 is the BW or in this case Chicom cold side aka compressor wheel not turbine, the SRM turbine is most likely clipped

Interesting, could have sworn when i read about them a couple years ago that was quite the opposite. Anyways, yeah probably splitting hairs at this rate.

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 03:16 PM

what about Frankenturbos? Are they better than PJ K04's?

**t28sentra** · 05-31-2016 03:47 PM

Nearly 25k miles on mine (JHM RS6-R). Very happy with them.

**Drehmoment** · 05-31-2016 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by freuds

what about Frankenturbos? Are they better than PJ K04's?

No

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by t28sentra

Nearly 25k miles on mine (JHM RS6-R). Very happy with them.

Solid!!!! That makes me feel better about buying Chinese turbos

**DieselElectric** · 05-31-2016 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by freuds

what about Frankenturbos? Are they better than PJ K04's?

Depends on what you consider better. They do make more power. Mine have over 30k on them without issue. If you want oem reliability then I would say they probably aren't better, but I haven't had an issue.

**FlyboyS4** · 05-31-2016 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by freuds

I see a lot of people running SRM's and i'm wondering if they're a better option than JHM. What's everyones take on these two?

Originally Posted by freuds

what about Frankenturbos? Are they better than PJ K04's?

These are all dimension-ally different products, depending on how you wish to use them will drive you toward one over another. 'Better' has no meaning without a criteria to evaluate against.

**christianb5s4** · 05-31-2016 06:01 PM

No direct experience, but I haven't seen any real reliability issues with either. Which is a good indication since the JHM RS6-Rs have been out for a while now.

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by christianb5s4

No direct experience, but I haven't seen any real reliability issues with either. Which is a good indication since the JHM RS6-Rs have been out for a while now.

Exactly. I'm leaning more towards JHM for that fact alone that they're seasoned and I haven't heard anything negative about running them.

**Drehmoment** · 05-31-2016 06:49 PM

Tial 605.2 are hands down a superior choice IMO they come with beautiful inlets that actually fit and superb oil/boost etc lines.

But they cant be bought for cheap like the Chicom stuff.....if Tials/JHM/SRm would all be the same price nobody in their right mind would pick the Chinese counter fit products.

**Corradovolksb** · 05-31-2016 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Drehmoment

Tial 605.2 are hands down a superior choice IMO they come with beautiful inlets that actually fit and superb oil/boost etc lines.

But they cant be bought for cheap like the Chicom stuff.....if Tials/JHM/SRm would all be the same price nobody in their right mind would pick the Chinese counter fit products.

I wouldn't be so sure about that I have recently seen a tial 605 failure and have seen a few 770 failures in the past. I agree they are a great turbo choice and have really well fitting inlets but I would not put them at better choice over the
RS6-R or K24's. Especially the bang for your buck. Just my 2 cents

**mikeb17** · 05-31-2016 07:44 PM

There's a reason everyone and their grandmother are running srm k24s. They are proven and cheap. Yeah it may be Chinese but from what I've seen its made of the rarest chinesium. If you want power and something reliable and don't mind the wait then srm k24s are the way to go, end of story.

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by mikeb17

There's a reason everyone and their grandmother are running srm k24s. They are proven and cheap. Yeah it may be Chinese but from what I've seen its made of the rarest chinesium. If you want power and something reliable and don't mind the wait then srm k24s are the way to go, end of story.

How far is SRM behind on orders??

**LINDW4LL** · 05-31-2016 08:28 PM

Of note also, there's still a valid 10% off coupon for the SRM turbos if you choose to go that route.

**RocksForsSale** · 05-31-2016 08:43 PM

SRM all day. I have yet to install these things though! I will report back once I tear into this thing.

**NYEuroTuner** · 05-31-2016 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by RocksForsSale

SRM all day. I have yet to install these things though! I will report back once I tear into this thing.

I put about 70k miles on SRM K24s, beat the crap out of them too driving from sandiego to Lancaster every weekend. Even when I removed them very minimal shaft play. Sean's snails are good to go.

**Zba** · 05-31-2016 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Corradovolksb

I wouldn't be so sure about that I have recently seen a tial 605 failure and have seen a few 770 failures in the past. I agree they are a great turbo choice and have really well fitting inlets but I would not put them at better choice over the
RS6-R or K24's. Especially the bang for your buck. Just my 2 cents

All turbos can and will fail including BW K04s so that is not necessarily a valid point. What boost/tune/ miles blah blah blah.

FWIW, I'm on my second set of FTs. First set was shit out of the box (only to be found after install SMH), second set failed at 6k miles (SMH).

When my third set fail I will put a video on YouTube of me gouging my eyes out...

**freuds** · 05-31-2016 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zba

All turbos can and will fail including BW K04s so that is not necessarily a valid point. What boost/tune/ miles blah blah blah.

FWIW, I'm on my second set of FTs. First set was shit out of the box (only to be found after install SMH), second set failed at 6k miles (SMH).

When my third set fail so will put a video on YouTube of me gouging my eyes out...

Damn!! Thats rough! Staying away from F21's then..

**Royal769sr** · 05-31-2016 11:08 PM

I can't believe someone "actually" hit 70k miles on SRMs but who knows.
I have yet to race anyone with k24 but I have oem rs6s and when I was in an s4 with oem rs6s then to k24s, I think the only difference is was feeling was from the oem being on 91oct and the k24 being on e85. Jhm even say not much different between theirs and chopped oem rs6.

Oh yeah. I'm at 25psi all day

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**GKTS4** · 06-01-2016 01:42 AM

Is there a difference in turbo frame size between the RS6-R or SRM k24s and the Tial 605.2s? Which is the larger turbo?

**FlyboyS4** · 06-01-2016 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by GKTS4

Is there a difference in turbo frame size between the RS6-R or SRM k24s and the Tial 605.2s? Which is the larger turbo?

I believe the TiAL is larger. It uses the GT28-65HTA compressor and NS111 turbine, both of which are larger than the RS6 hybrids from the numbers I've found. Specs, to the best of my knowledge, for the turbine inducer on the NS111 is 53.9 mm vs 50 for the RS6.

**Corbett** · 06-01-2016 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by GKTS4

Is there a difference in turbo frame size between the RS6-R or SRM k24s and the Tial 605.2s? Which is the larger turbo?

Now it's just getting silly around here. Come on guys, a Tial 605.2 is on a completely different level than a chinesium rs6

**Zba** · 06-01-2016 10:49 AM

Seriously folks.

**BRSFour** · 06-01-2016 10:54 AM

I recently installed JHM RS6-Rs in my allroad. 3000+ miles so far, no complaints. great response and power.

**Drehmoment** · 06-01-2016 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Corbett

Now it's just getting silly around here. Come on guys, a Tial 605.2 is on a completely different level than a chinesium rs6

Correct, the Tials are in a completely different zipcode than the Chicom stuff. Once you have both in your hands the quality difference is obvious but prize rules when the average B5S4 is worth a couple of grand and attracts that kind of clientel.

**christianb5s4** · 06-01-2016 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Drehmoment

Correct, the Tials are in a completely different zipcode than the Chicom stuff. Once you have both in your hands the quality difference is obvious but prize rules when the average B5S4 is worth a couple of grand and attracts that kind of clientel.

True, but even with that in mind Tials are a pretty penny even compared to OEM PJK04s. Really depends more on your power goals in terms of which to choose from, Tials are a great option as are other reliable turbo options.