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    Veteran Member Four Rings PaperToast's Avatar
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    Thumbs down have a different air suspension problem to figure out

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    short background, last weekend had the susp. light come on, didn't think much of it, everything worked fine
    on last Wednesday, the front end decides to dump to the ground, and i drove it about 3 miles to my apt. at 10-15 mph
    got a vagcom, had errors for the sensors, got that sorted out.
    i did search the zine, qw and aw; tried the different troubleshooting ways i found to no avail

    i cant get it to rise from the ground
    tried '402' mod method to adjust the height
    i get the following errors

    Monday,30,May,2016,17:06:40:12435
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1 (x64)
    Data version: 20160216
    www.Ross-Tech.com

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adaptation Channel 001:
    Stored value
    ERROR:
    Channel 01
    Not
    Available
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adaptation Channel 002:
    Stored value 402
    Value
    Wheel: F/Right
    Enter
    N/A
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adaptation Channel 003:
    Stored value 402
    Value
    Wheel: R/Left
    Enter
    N/A
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adaptation Channel 004:
    Stored value
    ERROR:
    Channel 04
    Not
    Available
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adaptation Channel 005:
    Stored value
    ERROR:
    Channel 05
    Not
    Available

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    i think this is due to driving on the bump stops

    Monday,30,May,2016,17:07:48:12435
    VCDS Version: Release 15.7.4 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
    www.Ross-Tech.com

    Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4Z7-907-553.LBL
    Control Module Part Number: 4Z7 907 553 H
    Component and/or Version: - 2C1A1 D053
    Software Coding: 25500
    Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
    VCID: 4A85B377768F9A6EE0-515A
    1 Fault Found:

    01437 - Control Position not Learned
    35-00 - -

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    i tried jacking the front end up, didn't help
    the driver side bag is holding pressure, but the passenger side i can hear air going in but its not pressurizing.
    when i squeeze the bag, the air goes somewhere, but i don't here it coming from the bag.
    didn't really hear any coming out of the valve block either
    is a shock disassembly in my future to reseal it? or is a valve block replacement in the works?
    im down to those 2 options
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    Veteran Member Four Rings 4rings2turbos's Avatar
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    I drove my 01 on the front bump stops quite a distance before and it didn't do any damage so it might not be related to doing that. Did you try soapy water to locate the leak?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings PaperToast's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4rings2turbos View Post
    I drove my 01 on the front bump stops quite a distance before and it didn't do any damage so it might not be related to doing that. Did you try soapy water to locate the leak?
    no soapy bubbly yet, should do that huh?
    Rockin' the Rockies
    '01 allroad, 250k woot woot, still boosting on original turbos and tippy, slightly modified. . .

    Scotty@Advanced, "Push it off a cliff, when it hits the ground you should have a few thousand horsepower available for a brief second."

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 4rings2turbos's Avatar
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    It should help you narrow it down. If anything it can tell you what isn't leaking. But you'll probably find it.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings PaperToast's Avatar
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    final update:

    got the computer to complete the adaptation
    what i did was disconnect the battery for around an hour, to clear everything
    jack the front end to 15.8 inches +/- to simulate 402 mm height
    and go through the adapt procedure on either the ross tech site or AW

    also found my air leak and why the driver side wont raise
    the bag is leaking from where i think the bladder meets the housing up under the fold.
    did the bubbly test and got bubbles all the way around
    so, it was losing so much air that it couldn't raise the driver side at all

    got a new bag on the way thanks to the warranty.
    Rockin' the Rockies
    '01 allroad, 250k woot woot, still boosting on original turbos and tippy, slightly modified. . .

    Scotty@Advanced, "Push it off a cliff, when it hits the ground you should have a few thousand horsepower available for a brief second."

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 4rings2turbos's Avatar
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    Awesome. Sucks for down-time but at least a free repair.
    OEM+ work in progress allroad
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    Veteran Member Four Rings PaperToast's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4rings2turbos View Post
    Awesome. Sucks for down-time but at least a free repair.
    yea, lesson learned, check for leaks very first thing so one can get replacement parts coming

    so it looks like, unless something catastrophic happens, quadzilla will prolly make an appearance at camp ar
    Rockin' the Rockies
    '01 allroad, 250k woot woot, still boosting on original turbos and tippy, slightly modified. . .

    Scotty@Advanced, "Push it off a cliff, when it hits the ground you should have a few thousand horsepower available for a brief second."

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    Veteran Member Four Rings 4rings2turbos's Avatar
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    Yisssss
    OEM+ work in progress allroad
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