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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericA6 View Post
    The upper cover comes with the timing kit, I was thinking of reusing my old one and simply replacing the seal as you stated.

    I don’t remember seeing a timing kit that includes the balancer chain, tensioner and guides, I’ll look back to see if I’m wrong.

    The timing kit comes with a new oil pump tensioner. If I’m replacing it with a new one do I still need the locking pin tool? I don’t think I do, but please correct me if I’m wrong.

    The timing kit states it comes with Genuine VW AUDI parts so I’m expecting all to be stamped as so when they arrive. This is the first time I hear about the seal driver tool. Do you have a link for this?

    As for the water pump, the kit comes with all necessary hardware, including that bolt.

    Thank you kind sir!


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    Some people reuse covers. They definitely get a bit tweaked, but if you have some room, you can hammer a spackel knife in there, but it's still tough. If you do it, make sure the mating surfaces are 100% clean, down to bare metal, then also run a metal ruler over the sealing flange to ID where there's slight deformation. The bigger problem is when they get tweaked at the bend.

    The locking pin, like I said, usually comes with the new tensioner. If not sure, call the supplier, but obviously if the tensioner has one in place, you don't need to buy one. People typically buy them to remove tensioners. You stick it in so the spring doesn't shoot open as you'll pulling the rail out.

    The oil seal installer is T10354. I don't recommend it. I used it on one cover, it sucks and I totally see how this step for the stage 1 work would result in damaged timing gears on occasion, or in my case, a crooked seal.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Audi-Cra...-/322511152559

    I saw the water pump link, but it doesn't change what I said: I would recommend doing the water pump maybe even before the timing set is started because if you break the old bolt or the new one, at least it's not miserable to remove when the timing area is opened and you can access the balancer. Usually the bolts break with enough to still stick out. It's just another shitty design from Audi and most people don't touch the belt.

    As far as the kit price goes, I find it way too expensive for being incomplete. It doesn't even include a main timing sprocket like many kits of OE quality. I wanted to get away with just changing my timing chain, but Humble Mechanic convinced me to do everything while I was there. I used a mostly Borsehung kit and it was very obvious most parts were identical to the Audi parts, even down to the materials and molding marks and identifiers. My new oil pump tensioner had some issue, so I got a Valeo and that was also pretty identical to the take off and to the Audi. I used a factory Audi tensioner, though in case I ever needed Audi to give me some partial payment on work, at least they'd see an OE tensioner through the window. The kit also had the updated chain.
    Last edited by Kolbenringe; 06-16-2019 at 08:17 AM.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Theiceman's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolbenringe View Post
    Some people reuse covers. They definitely get a bit tweaked, but if you have some room, you can hammer a spackel knife in there, but it's still tough. If you do it, make sure the mating surfaces are 100% clean, down to bare metal, then also run a metal ruler over the sealing flange to ID where there's slight deformation. The bigger problem is when they get tweaked at the bend.

    The locking pin, like I said, usually comes with the new tensioner. If not sure, call the supplier, but obviously if the tensioner has one in place, you don't need to buy one. People typically buy them to remove tensioners. You stick it in so the spring doesn't shoot open as you'll pulling the rail out.

    The oil seal installer is T10354. I don't recommend it. I used it on one cover, it sucks and I totally see how this step for the stage 1 work would result in damaged timing gears on occasion, or in my case, a crooked seal.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Audi-Cra...-/322511152559

    I saw the water pump link, but it doesn't change what I said: I would recommend doing the water pump maybe even before the timing set is started because if you break the old bolt or the new one, at least it's not miserable to remove when the timing area is opened and you can access the balancer. Usually the bolts break with enough to still stick out. It's just another shitty design from Audi and most people don't touch the belt.

    As far as the kit price goes, I find it way too expensive for being incomplete. It doesn't even include a main timing sprocket like many kits of OE quality. I wanted to get away with just changing my timing chain, but Humble Mechanic convinced me to do everything while I was there. I used a mostly Borsehung kit and it was very obvious most parts were identical to the Audi parts, even down to the materials and molding marks and identifiers. My new oil pump tensioner had some issue, so I got a Valeo and that was also pretty identical to the take off and to the Audi. I used a factory Audi tensioner, though in case I ever needed Audi to give me some partial payment on work, at least they'd see an OE tensioner through the window. The kit also had the updated chain.
    I changed my ballencer chains guides and tensioner. I was doing a complete rebuild though so this is expected.
    Although balance shaft failure is not uncommon in these engines,it is not due to chains tensioner or guides.
    The choice is yours, I plan on keeping my car for quite a while

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