VR Tuned 4.0T

[vividracing]

VR Tuned ECU Tuning Box Kit Audi S6 C7 4.0T

Audi’s 4.0L twin turbocharged engine that is found in the new S6 is a menacing beast with 420bhp stock. Audi S6 Tuning can yield some very impressive gains via a ECU flash or tuning box. For those looking to add some no hassle, warranty safe power, the VR Tuned Tuning Box is the way to go. Plugging into factory sensors, the Tuning Box takes the Audi S6 4.0L to 540bhp and 700nm of torque! Thats quite the difference! You can see the dyno graph of our test car we did here at Vivid Racing. The tuning box has a dial on it which can be adjusted up or down for different octane used. As seen here, the dial is set to 5/6 for 93 octane cars and for 91 octane, we recommend 3/4 setting. This tuning box harness fits the other 4.0L twin turbo engines such as the Audi A8, S7, and more.

Product Information
New from VR Tuned is this performance Tuning Box kit for the Audi S6 4.0L TFSI turbocharged engine. This tuning box kit is a plug and play solution to tune your cars fuel, timing, and boost giving you up to 40% more power and 20% fuel savings. The VR Tuned ECU Tuning Box Kit gives your Audi 4.0L TFSI engine a gain in power from 420bhp to 540bhp gaining you 120bhp!

Plug and Play for easy removal to avoid warranty issues
Designed for turbocharged vehicles only
Does not lock to vehicle or VIN
Harness has OEM style connectors, no splicing or cutting
Tuning Box features an aluminum weatherproof case
Digital Microprocessor Controlled
Installs in 5 - 45 minutes depending on vehicle
Proven power gains
3 year warranty on parts
Tuning Box cannot eliminate CELs from catless or high flow cat exhaust parts
On the back of the box is a removable cover with dial settings you can adjust. This is to allow small adjustments to the power setting so the box can work correctly in different climate conditions and on different quality fuel.





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[Djpeaksd]

Interested in this! I know most piggybacks are laughable for this engine but maybe this one is the real deal. Does this work for 2016 MY??

[vividracing]

Interested in this! I know most piggybacks are laughable for this engine but maybe this one is the real deal. Does this work for 2016 MY??

Sure does!


I will PM you a price.

[Djpeaksd]

Awesome I'll look for your pm

[zcd2.7t]

I don't see the dyno graph - could you please link me to it?

I also don't see this item on your website, but maybe I missed it?

TIA.

[vividracing]

I don't see the dyno graph - could you please link me to it?

I also don't see this item on your website, but maybe I missed it?

TIA.

http://www.vividracing.com/blog/vivi...-with-vrtuned/




Sorry about that!

[Djpeaksd]

A big appeal to me on this is to avoid a TD1 but after looking into it, it seems that Audi could go through logs and still detect a tune whether it was a re flash or piggyback. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

[vividracing]

A big appeal to me on this is to avoid a TD1 but after looking into it, it seems that Audi could go through logs and still detect a tune whether it was a re flash or piggyback. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

I personally used to work on these cars as an Audi tech at the dealer. The only way for the system to pick it up is if you "reflash the ECU fully with software" or leave this plugged in when you go into the dealer. They will run what's called a specified actual comparison on the vehicle it will compare the current software level of the vehicle to the software in Germany that is supposed to be on the vehicle from the factory as per the Vin number. With this there really isn't any concern as long as you plug unplug it when you going to the dealer.


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[wordsworth03]

Aren't there logs of boost, timing etc? Could those be analyzed and cause the tech to think there was a tune at some point if it's over boosting?

[hubris]

A big appeal to me on this is to avoid a TD1 but after looking into it, it seems that Audi could go through logs and still detect a tune whether it was a re flash or piggyback. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

I think it is still possible. I think the engine records parameters for how much boost, etc. the car gets over the last 50-100 miles. There has been a lot of speculation about this but no hard evidence AFAIK. If you blow your engine and break down on the side of the road, even if you remove it, the data is still theoretically recorded in that black box. Sure it won't show up on a SA/GFS scan, but if you need a serious engine or transmission repair, Audi engineers will do a review of the ECM, and they could find said data. I don't mean the techs working on your car, I mean people above them that are trained to look for these types of interventions on the engine.

You have to pay to play. This is a safer bet than a true ECM flash, but IMO it still leaves potential for discovery if things go sideways. However it is significantly more convenient, and cheaper, to just remove this box than going to your dealer and re-flashing to stock.... Pros and cons. Play at your own risk!

[Djpeaksd]

I think it is still possible. I think the engine records parameters for how much boost, etc. the car gets over the last 50-100 miles. There has been a lot of speculation about this but no hard evidence AFAIK. If you blow your engine and break down on the side of the road, even if you remove it, the data is still theoretically recorded in that black box. Sure it won't show up on a SA/GFS scan, but if you need a serious engine or transmission repair, Audi engineers will do a review of the ECM, and they could find said data. I don't mean the techs working on your car, I mean people above them that are trained to look for these types of interventions on the engine.

You have to pay to play. This is a safer bet than a true ECM flash, but IMO it still leaves potential for discovery if things go sideways. However it is significantly more convenient, and cheaper, to just remove this box than going to your dealer and re-flashing to stock.... Pros and cons. Play at your own risk!

Yeah I think you are exactly right, plus having a good relationship with your service advisor is a plus as well! Since you mentioned it I would like to bring it up, have we heard of any 4.0T's actually blowing up or having major issues due to a tune on this site?

[vividracing]

Yeah I think you are exactly right, plus having a good relationship with your service advisor is a plus as well! Since you mentioned it I would like to bring it up, have we heard of any 4.0T's actually blowing up or having major issues due to a tune on this site?

Agree with both, However Audi or any manufacture cannot deny a warranty claim just because. If they can pinpoint something to the T and prove THIS is exactly what has caused it then that would be a different story.
Nothing is ever 100% however, I have tuned and modifed these cars personally for the past 2 and a half years and have no ran into any issues yet.


Regards,

Adam

[bhvrdr]

There are no "logs" for the dealers to go through. The TD1 process has been outlined by Audi. It is a spec vs actual scan as was stated by vivid.


If Audi were to increase their level of detection, they could conceivably event record. Recording events already takes place. We know of them by the name of "soft codes" and "trouble codes." Those are simply recordings of events that have taken place (they are timestamped and tell the frequency, etc). One event that gets recorded that can lead to warranty issues is the "max rev limited exceeded" event if you were to misshift or "money shift" your car. Audi will not be paying for that.

It is conceivable that in the future Audi could also record other "max level exceeded" events such as vehicle speed (if you had an OEM top speed limiter removed and exceeded it), engine rpm (if you were TCU tuned and exceeded factory rev limits), and even max load/torque values, which everyone who was flashed would be screwed on. The kicker is that with a piggy back the ECU is tricked into recording lower than stock boost. This is so the ecu thinks the car is making less boost than it really is making and the ECU will then take over and attempt to make more boost. So "max boost" and "max load" logs would not be exceeded using a piggy back. But again, this is all moot because as of right now there are no events such as this recorded.


Mike

[vividracing]

There are no "logs" for the dealers to go through. The TD1 process has been outlined by Audi. It is a spec vs actual scan as was stated by vivid.


If Audi were to increase their level of detection, they could conceivably event record. Recording events already takes place. We know of them by the name of "soft codes" and "trouble codes." Those are simply recordings of events that have taken place (they are timestamped and tell the frequency, etc). One event that gets recorded that can lead to warranty issues is the "max rev limited exceeded" event if you were to misshift or "money shift" your car. Audi will not be paying for that.

It is conceivable Audi could also record other "max level exceeded" events to such as vehicle speed (if you had an OEM top speed limiter removed and exceeded it), engine rpm (if you were TCU tuned and exceeded factory rev limits), and even max load/torque values, which everyone who was flashed would be screwed on. The kicker is that with a piggy back the ECU is tricked into recording lower than stock boost. This is so the ecu thinks the car is making less boost than it really is making and the ECU will then take over and attempt to make more boost. So "max boost" and "max load" logs would not be exceeded using a piggy back. But again, this is all moot because as of right now there are no events such as this recorded.


Mike

Thanks Mike for chiming in you elaborated on exactly what I wanted to explain further in depth.

[bhvrdr]

Thanks Mike for chiming in you elaborated on exactly what I wanted to explain further in depth.

My pleasure. BTW, if you can get some 1/4 mile times/traps, it would probably be even more meaningful than dyno sheets, IMO. Looking forward to learning and seeing more.

Mike

[vividracing]

My pleasure. BTW, if you can get some 1/4 mile times/traps, it would probably be even more meaningful than dyno sheets, IMO. Looking forward to learning and seeing more.

Mike

For sure! We are going to get all of that posted as soon as we've got a guy that does more than just runs around the street ;)

[soccerking93]

How does your MAP clamp differ from Chipwerke's? How does it compare in terms of price?

For sure! We are going to get all of that posted as soon as we've got a guy that does more than just runs around the street ;)

[SilveR316]

Does this work with the C7.5 as well? The newer model years have 450hp stock as opposed to 420hp the older model years had.

[vividracing]

Does this work with the C7.5 as well? The newer model years have 450hp stock as opposed to 420hp the older model years had.

Yes it does work for this as well, and you are correct.

[SilveR316]

Yes it does work for this as well, and you are correct.

So what are the final numbers for the C7.5? Is it the same end result as the C7, or is it 30hp more? Do you have a dyno for this?

[vividracing]

so what are the final numbers for the c7.5? Is it the same end result as the c7, or is it 30hp more? Do you have a dyno for this?

kw 331 417
bhp 450 567
nm 550 699

[zcd2.7t]

...Sorry about that!

Thanks, I guess. No pricing anywhere to be found, nor any actual performance stats.

Why do I need to PM you for pricing? There are almost 5,000 "tuning box kits" on your site with pricing, but nothing about this particular kit, even though the blog post is dated 2014....

It all seems a bit odd to me...

[Djpeaksd]

Guys I'm considering being the guinea pig on this one and see how this piggyback works. Everything I've read looks like a solid company. I don't think anyone on this forum has this tune, well I haven't seen anyone with it. If anyone has feedback on it please let me know.

[yas]

but nothing about this particular kit

https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/...150785402.html

[Demandred]

i too would just like a price listed - maybe even a Group Buy offered to Audizine members

[vividracing]

Guys I'm considering being the guinea pig on this one and see how this piggyback works. Everything I've read looks like a solid company. I don't think anyone on this forum has this tune, well I haven't seen anyone with it. If anyone has feedback on it please let me know.

Hello there!

I will send you some more info now

[vividracing]

i too would just like a price listed - maybe even a Group Buy offered to Audizine members

We would be glad to entertain a group buy!

Anyone who is interested in being a part of this please post here and or send a message and I will get this put together.

[agent47]

We would be glad to entertain a group buy!

Anyone who is interested in being a part of this please post here and or send a message and I will get this put together.

I have a c7.5 3.0T. Austin might remember me, I asked him a few times about the VR tuned box for me. The C7.5 engine is quite different. Any chance you might have tested your piggyback on a c7.5?

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[vividracing]

I have a c7.5 3.0T. Austin might remember me, I asked him a few times about the VR tuned box for me. The C7.5 engine is quite different. Any chance you might have tested your piggyback on a c7.5?

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Hello there,


As far as how this hooks up to the vehicle will be the same between the two but would like to confirm. Can you PM me a picture of the sticker on your ECU ?




Regards,
Adam O'Hare

[bhvrdr]

Hello there,


As far as how this hooks up to the vehicle will be the same between the two but would like to confirm. Can you PM me a picture of the sticker on your ECU ?




Regards,
Adam O'Hare

The 2016 A6 CREC engine is not the same as the 2015. The MAP sensors are also not the same. The CREC engine uses new digital transfer protocol called SENT for their sensor data.

Mike

[vividracing]

PM's sent!

[jfeger]

Im very curious to get feedback from real users of this solution. It looks promising.

[vividracing]

Im very curious to get feedback from real users of this solution. It looks promising.

More Feedback will be coming soon! I've sold out of my inventory on these. More coming from Germany asap

[dogears]

:)

More Feedback will be coming soon! I've sold out of my inventory on these. More coming from Germany asap

[vividracing]

:)

:)

[Djpeaksd]

Ok boys I just pulled the trigger on this piggyback!!! I should have it next week and I will let you know what I think. Ill do a video for install and some pulls in the car stock vs. with the piggyback installed.

[dogears]

Sounds great!! Looking forward to the post and your thoughts!

Ok boys I just pulled the trigger on this piggyback!!! I should have it next week and I will let you know what I think. Ill do a video for install and some pulls in the car stock vs. with the piggyback installed.

[vividracing]

Just a heads up keep a look out on this thread for a VERY Satisfied customer with this product :) we love when we get those calls !

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Ok boys I just pulled the trigger on this piggyback!!! I should have it next week and I will let you know what I think. Ill do a video for install and some pulls in the car stock vs. with the piggyback installed.

Thanks man! We appreciate you taking the time to do a video as well.

Can't wait to see it! are you going to post a reaction of your face ;) ?


LOL

[dumbledore]

Tuning Box First Impressions, Thoughts, and Advice

So, my VR box arrived yesterday. It came packaged in a bag with the SKU. It was missing any mounting hardware (wire ties), fortunately I had a bunch at home so no biggie. Note to Adam, make sure fasteners included. I had printed out the instructions from the web site. The unit came with nothing except the box, loom, and "go back to stock" plug. My advice to VR is to include the fasteners and instructions. Maybe even a fancy box since the unit is not cheap.

On to installation. I shut the car off and popped the hood. Let it sit with the doors locked, as instructed for over 5 minutes. I then popped the engine cover off. This was a piece of cake. I laid out the units loom in position and proceeded to unplug the sensors and install the VR loom in their place. Everything was going well until I got to the MAP sensor. It was really hard to unplug since it is difficult to get a good grip on it with its location. I wound up using a flat head in the connector to unlock it and then it was easy. Instructions on how to unlock the sensor plugs would have helped. I wound up with a tiny skinned knuckle on one finger accessing that plug. It is doable and really not that hard. So no worries...... I wound up using wire ties to install the box in the engine bay on the drivers side up near the brake hardware on the firewall. Anyone with a better suggestion, please advise. I think VR should include suggested mounting in the instructions.

I set the box to "5" on the dial. It ships at 6. I run 93 octane only. My first test drive was not very conclusive as there was a lot of traffic around the neighborhood. I was only able to push it from a roll in 2nd. Felt strong. About an hour later, I had to run out and I did get to punch it a bunch. It was definitely much stronger. I did not feel the mass of the car as much. Before install, I would feel the weight holding the car back. Now, it pulled much stronger so the car felt lighter. I then stopped and set it on 6. Not sure whether it was better, I put it back to 5. This way I am more comfortable with engine not pulling timing or boost to protect itself. Last night, I had to do 20+ miles of highway driving. I did a whole bunch of testing and I feel that it made a large noticeable improvement. There were no adverse throttle issues or anything other than more response and pull. Not sure what the gains are but I would not be surprised if it were north of 50-60hp. It was that noticeable. I found myself nailing it more just to feel the power.......

I will do more testing this weekend, but so far, I am satisfied.

Disclaimer: I am a long time forum member posting under a new username to avoid any chance of big brother slapping a TD1...... That is why this is the only post, not shilling......

Just a heads up keep a look out on this thread for a VERY Satisfied customer with this product :) we love when we get those calls !

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[MadAboutCars]

1/ Plug laptop into OBD port.
2/ Click stage 1 tune.

Lots of extra power. No skinned knuckles...