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    I am looking for HFC version for my S3. Is the AWE version the only one won't throw a CEL without Stage 2 software correction? The reason, I ask this, is that I want the ability to pass my emission test if necessary with software tuning. I do plan to go to Stage 2, but I want the ability to pass emission test without the software as well. Basically, emissions here are no check engine light, visual confirmation of cat, and gas cap leak test. Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    I am looking for HFC version for my S3. Is the AWE version the only one won't throw a CEL without Stage 2 software correction? The reason, I ask this, is that I want the ability to pass my emission test if necessary with software tuning. I do plan to go to Stage 2, but I want the ability to pass emission test without the software as well. Basically, emissions here are no check engine light, visual confirmation of cat, and gas cap leak test. Thanks in advance.
    I think AWE is the only one that guarantees no CEL.
    The Bull-X and Milltek catted downpipes should also be CEL free, but don't guarantee it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwater View Post
    I think AWE is the only one that guarantees no CEL.
    The Bull-X and Milltek catted downpipes should also be CEL free, but don't guarantee it.

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    The just released Neuspeed Downpipe also guarantees no CEL


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmth_ski_bum View Post
    The just released Neuspeed Downpipe also guarantees no CEL


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    Really? I didn't know they had one. Who is selling them online?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    Really? I didn't know they had one. Who is selling them online?
    It's up on the Neuspeed website for stock exhaust fitment, and I believe their aftermarket fitment is expected any day now. I'm sure any Neuspeed dealer could get one, or just contact Neuspeed directly.

    The shop I usually go through is Supreme Power, you can contact Kerrick Pun (Kerrick@supremepower.com).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    I am looking for HFC version for my S3. Is the AWE version the only one won't throw a CEL without Stage 2 software correction? The reason, I ask this, is that I want the ability to pass my emission test if necessary with software tuning. I do plan to go to Stage 2, but I want the ability to pass emission test without the software as well. Basically, emissions here are no check engine light, visual confirmation of cat, and gas cap leak test. Thanks in advance.
    The Bull-X downpipe with ECE approved catalyst is CEL-free. We have them in stock and ready to ship.

    http://www.emmanueledesign.com/colle...utlet-downpipe

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmmanueleDesign View Post
    The Bull-X downpipe with ECE approved catalyst is CEL-free. We have them in stock and ready to ship.

    http://www.emmanueledesign.com/colle...utlet-downpipe
    Thanks, I will put this on my list to check out.
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    | APR IC | CTS Turbo inlet, outlet, and throttle pipes | Neuspeed 3" catted downpipe | 034 dogbone mount insert | 034 rear subframe inserts | Spulen intake coolant hose | ECS SS brake lines |

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    Thanks, I will put this on my list to check out.
    Sending you a PM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vividracing View Post
    Sending you a PM!
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    Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner_oz View Post
    They don't mention CELs, do you know how it performs sans tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tateltot View Post
    They don't mention CELs, do you know how it performs sans tune?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tateltot View Post
    They don't mention CELs, do you know how it performs sans tune?
    Says Stage 2 required on the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    Says Stage 2 required on the link.
    That's doesn't really answer my question. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by tateltot View Post
    That's doesn't really answer my question. :P
    Yes it does. It means you need software to run that pipe or you will get CEL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    Yes it does. It means you need software to run that pipe or you will get CEL.


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    Are you saying that from first-hand experience with this pipe?

    "Requires stage 2" could be a guideline to achieve advertised performance. It could be a strong suggestion. Clearly, the car won't explode without a stage 2 tune, so it's not exactly required, is it? The page says nothing about whether stage 2 has anything to do with a CEL. In fact, based on the specs of the pipe and cat, it could be identical to the Neuspeed which does guarantee no CEL.

    "Requires stage 2" answers absolutely none of these questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tateltot View Post
    Are you saying that from first-hand experience with this pipe?

    "Requires stage 2" could be a guideline to achieve advertised performance. It could be a strong suggestion. Clearly, the car won't explode without a stage 2 tune, so it's not exactly required, is it? The page says nothing about whether stage 2 has anything to do with a CEL. In fact, based on the specs of the pipe and cat, it could be identical to the Neuspeed which does guarantee no CEL.

    "Requires stage 2" answers absolutely none of these questions.
    In my opinion "required" means it is required. If non tuned people could run this why wouldn't want to sell to those people? My opinion is if it doesn't say no CEL, you are probably going to get one. You could possibly get by with spacer. Other than that I would contact them and ask.


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    | APR Stage 2 ECU 93 HT & TCU tune | K&N | rain tray delete from airbox | REVO CF intake scoop | Spulen turbo inlet hose | APR turbo muffler delete |
    | APR IC | CTS Turbo inlet, outlet, and throttle pipes | Neuspeed 3" catted downpipe | 034 dogbone mount insert | 034 rear subframe inserts | Spulen intake coolant hose | ECS SS brake lines |

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