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    Quote Originally Posted by doppyflong View Post
    Has anyone dealt with CEL P0089? I've had it pop up twice. From what I've read it's typically LPFP related and my butt dyno definitely feels a drop in power when pulling hard from 2-3. Additionally, I've been experiencing sputter when pulling from 2-3 and have gone through the adaptation process multiple times now. Only running 91 at this time. Ran E85 blend a few times in the past, but it has been a couple months.

    Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@EPL View Post
    I think it may be also related to the HPFP. There may be a TSB for your car as well. Might want to check with the dealer.
    So the code cleared on it's own by the time I got it to the dealer and nothing came up when they scanned. Asked them to check the fuel pumps and everything tested normal.

    Issue is I'm still getting the sputter and have yet to get the CEL again, despite my best efforts. Over the last 6 months I've reflashed probably 5 times using the adaptation method. On top of the sputter, the car just does not feel as strong.

    Anyone have input on what I can do to further diagnose this? Are people typically replacing the HPFP/ LPFP when stage 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doppyflong View Post
    So the code cleared on it's own by the time I got it to the dealer and nothing came up when they scanned. Asked them to check the fuel pumps and everything tested normal.

    Issue is I'm still getting the sputter and have yet to get the CEL again, despite my best efforts. Over the last 6 months I've reflashed probably 5 times using the adaptation method. On top of the sputter, the car just does not feel as strong.

    Anyone have input on what I can do to further diagnose this? Are people typically replacing the HPFP/ LPFP when stage 2?
    What is your issue exactly? I am not sure what you are referring to. Or send me an email. How many miles? When were the plugs replaced last?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris@EPL View Post
    What is your issue exactly? I am not sure what you are referring to. Or send me an email. How many miles? When were the plugs replaced last?
    Edited my above post. We've been in touch over the months via email and have done quite a bit of troubleshooting such as the plugs, mileage, adaptation, etc. You've been super helpful/ responsive btw.

    I thought I was finally on to something with this CEL, so I was super deflated when they couldn't find anything. The fuel pump possibility still makes sense to me though and I was hoping for more info on the HPFP/ LPFP replacement history with some of the other Stage 2 cars. Hoping you or some of the other members on here can provide some insight so I can dig into that possibility a bit more.
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    any hint on future update/news for the 3.0t ? Still working on the TCU ?
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    If any in the Denver/Castle Rock area is EPL stage 2 would be open to meeting up sometime this summer I'd love to get sense for what EPL stage 2 feels like. I'd be happy to buy a couple rounds if you would be kind enough to take me for a ride. No rush... I'm in the final year of my factory warranty and am considering going stage 2/TCU once that's closer to being up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeagle View Post
    If any in the Denver/Castle Rock area is EPL stage 2 would be open to meeting up sometime this summer I'd love to get sense for what EPL stage 2 feels like. I'd be happy to buy a couple rounds if you would be kind enough to take me for a ride. No rush... I'm in the final year of my factory warranty and am considering going stage 2/TCU once that's closer to being up.
    Iím a reformed Castle Rocker living in Boulder whos always down for some rounds. Stage 2 EPL and TCU


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    Sounds good. I'd be happy to meet up towards Boulder this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeagle View Post
    Sounds good. I'd be happy to meet up towards Boulder this summer.
    I'm in Parker and I'm WAAAY cooler than JD S4. Just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 303 Spartan View Post
    I'm in Parker and I'm WAAAY cooler than JD S4. Just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jokingjimmy View Post
    Didn't realize the were ANY cool people in Colorado
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    Any progress on this new TCU file? Love to be able to use S mode again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 303 Spartan View Post
    I'm in Parker and I'm WAAAY cooler than JD S4. Just sayin'...
    Haha, I'd be down to meet up sometime.

    With all the power we lose do to altitude out here just want to make sure stage 2 is worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeagle View Post
    Haha, I'd be down to meet up sometime.

    With all the power we lose do to altitude out here just want to make sure stage 2 is worth it.
    Trust me, it is. After going from stock to "Stage 1", then to "E85 Stage 1" a few months later, and more recently jumping to "Stage 2", I can tell you that the difference over stock is night and day and the difference over Stage 1 (even on full E85) is absolutely noticeable.

    The extra power in the lower RPMs (2500-4500) comes in extremely handy when cruising up I70 into the mountains. With Stage 2, you no longer need to drop down into a low gear and get the RPM's up over 4.5k to get moving past the slow traffic. Now you can stay in one of the higher gears and the car has plenty of "oomph" to get you past the slow movers, even at 3k RPMs in 6th gear at 1/2 throttle.

    I say just go for it. You won't regret it.


    But I'd still like to meet up. I'm curious to see your wheel/tire setup. I've been considering switching to 19x9.5 + 265/35/19 for a while now. Curious to see how it looks/performs in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 303 Spartan View Post
    Trust me, it is. After going from stock to "Stage 1", then to "E85 Stage 1" a few months later, and more recently jumping to "Stage 2", I can tell you that the difference over stock is night and day and the difference over Stage 1 (even on full E85) is absolutely noticeable.

    The extra power in the lower RPMs (2500-4500) comes in extremely handy when cruising up I70 into the mountains. With Stage 2, you no longer need to drop down into a low gear and get the RPM's up over 4.5k to get moving past the slow traffic. Now you can stay in one of the higher gears and the car has plenty of "oomph" to get you past the slow movers, even at 3k RPMs in 6th gear at 1/2 throttle.

    I say just go for it. You won't regret it.


    But I'd still like to meet up. I'm curious to see your wheel/tire setup. I've been considering switching to 19x9.5 + 265/35/19 for a while now. Curious to see how it looks/performs in person.
    Thanks for the perspective and I'm likely going to do it. Just want to confirm the difference. I've still got a year left on my factory warranty so will likely be the end of this year.

    I just got notified that my wheels/tires shipped today so I should have them on in the next week or so. I'd be happy to me up sometime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmoreS4 View Post
    Any progress on this new TCU file? Love to be able to use S mode again.
    Just curious, are you currently on the beta TCU tune?
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    Anyone heard any updates on the TB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chibo View Post
    Anyone heard any updates on the TB?
    I've been wondering whats going on too! Would be a nice summertime upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chibo View Post
    Anyone heard any updates on the TB?
    What TB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajan01 View Post
    What TB?
    Issam was working on the TB upgrade for awhile and some talks that EPL might be tuning it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 303 Spartan View Post
    Just curious, are you currently on the beta TCU tune?
    Nope, said it wasn't available for the box code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 303 Spartan View Post
    I've been considering switching to 19x9.5 + 265/35/19 for a while now. Curious to see how it looks/performs in person.
    It's great. I have TSW Bathurst 19x9.5 ET39 with RE-71R's in 265/35R19 as my summer setup and they are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurotic View Post
    It's great. I have TSW Bathurst 19x9.5 ET39 with RE-71R's in 265/35R19 as my summer setup and they are great.
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    Hitting the track Friday going for some records wish me luck!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil35r View Post
    Hitting the track Friday going for some records wish me luck!!!!
    Hell yeah! I'm hoping to have my car ready in a couple weeks but my URS4 project is taking up all my time.

    If it's been awhile since you've been to the track skim through this. Preparation is your friend.
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    Any updates with the Beta TCU tune? It's been quiet on that front.

    I'm back on the stock TCU tune for now.
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    for the ones with E85 file, how do you feel the file. give me your opinions
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil35r View Post
    Hitting the track Friday going for some records wish me luck!!!!
    How did you do?

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    12.2 @ 122 spun through 1st running conti dswís Switching to pssís May 11th. Iíll be in the low 11ís if she sticks. Iíll upload my slip when I have time def was strong the back end hence the trap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    Planning on releasing next month... keep in mind that it will be released to dual pulley cars running e85/high octane first, then regular dual pulley cars, then stage 2....and so on.
    Any updates on the data logger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by street2gen View Post
    Any updates on the data logger?
    At the moment we are still just waiting for the righ timing... so we can provide the support that will be necessary following the release logger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil35r View Post
    12.2 @ 122 spun through 1st running conti dswís Switching to pssís May 11th. Iíll be in the low 11ís if she sticks. Iíll upload my slip when I have time def was strong the back end hence the trap.
    Tire pressure, track conditions, DA, launching technique? 122 is damn impressive and the highest EPL trap yet.

    Hell I ran an 11.47 with a 113.2 trap due to a shift hiccup... You'll be in the low 11's if you can get even a decent launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil35r View Post
    12.2 @ 122 spun through 1st running conti dswís Switching to pssís May 11th. Iíll be in the low 11ís if she sticks. Iíll upload my slip when I have time def was strong the back end hence the trap.
    As long are you were faster then 122.01.... as far as I can tell that is fastest stage 2 trap speed posted and you did it on a "pump gas" file. Nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    As long are you were faster then 122.01.... as far as I can tell that is fastest stage 2 trap speed posted and you did it on a "pump gas" file. Nice work.
    122mph trap, single pulley with no traction..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    As long are you were faster then 122.01.... as far as I can tell that is fastest stage 2 trap speed posted and you did it on a "pump gas" file. Nice work.
    While you're here.... any update on the Beta TCU file?
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    Tony,

    whats the typical turn around time for updated files after you've received detailed logs (sent in earlier this month)?

    Been some time since i've had an update to my 93 file and TCU (mid last year), so I'm curious, especially with recently added ported blower and test pipes.

    Appreciate the effort, Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelseysautobody View Post
    Tire pressure, track conditions, DA, launching technique? 122 is damn impressive and the highest EPL trap yet.

    Hell I ran an 11.47 with a 113.2 trap due to a shift hiccup... You'll be in the low 11's if you can get even a decent launch.
    Sorry been slammed at work, stuck on the boAt since Sunday track conditions were your typical test n tune, tire pressure 38 all around tried lowering it but spun worse. Trap was 122.3 tony. Iím on that high meth 93 file. Had sheíll 93 in the tank thatís all. She rips!!! Hoping the new tires will help with traction using the swing method. May 11 next runill upload slip when Iím home def happy sucks she didnít stick or a record would of been had
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    Quote Originally Posted by evil35r View Post
    Sorry been slammed at work, stuck on the boAt since Sunday track conditions were your typical test n tune, tire pressure 38 all around tried lowering it but spun worse. Trap was 122.3 tony. Iím on that high meth 93 file. Had sheíll 93 in the tank thatís all. She rips!!! Hoping the new tires will help with traction using the swing method. May 11 next runill upload slip when Iím home def happy sucks she didnít stick or a record would of been had
    If you're still running into traction issues with new tires try just flooring it off of idle in "S". As soon as you get off the line hit your downshift paddle to put it in M1 then let it shift on its own. This will assure you get full RPM range in all the gears. You could try going off idle in manual mode as well but that always seemed to short shift 1st gear pretty badly for me.
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    Ok great Iíll try that hopefully the new tires do the trick
    S4 13 EPL cts pulley stage 2 Meth/93 file w/ DSG tune, ROC-EURO intake, custom downpipe back exhaust magnaflow res x-pipe, twin magnaflow resonators, magnaflow mufflers, ECS diff and tranny inserts, CR-15, VCDS mods, Snow Performance stage 2 meth kit, 034 rear sway.

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