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    Veteran Member Four Rings kaz02a4's Avatar
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    USP clutch line?

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    Been awhile, but I'm baaaaack! Looking to possibly go stage 1 and get a couple of other bits for a fun DD, but first thing on my mind: clutch line. I always hated the feel of the pedal in the B8. The B6, B7, and Miata I've had all seem worlds ahead in terms of engagement. After doing some digging here and here, I think I'm closer to actually picking this up. But I have a couple of questions for you guys:
    • The stock line, with the flow regulating valve, was obviously added for SOME reason. What's that reason, and what will I be missing out on when I remove it?
    • Does anyone have this on their A4? And how easy was the install?
    Any ideas will be helpful. Thank you!
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    Hello B8: P+ Quattro, 6 Speed, Sport. Stg. 1 APR, CR-15, Fly Designs steering wheel, Euro Impulse shift knob, Macan BBK, Alu Kreuz, 034 RSB + endlinks, SPC control arms...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Dub_prime's Avatar
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    We can only guess as to why the valve is there, most people say it is like the clutch delay valves on most of the other modern cars that restricts the flow to the slave to reduce shock to the clutch. With all the others out there it only serves to make it harder to drive more aggressively and some say it even increases wear because it actually delays the engagement of the clutch.
    I have it installed on my A4 and the install is a bitch... Take out the wiper assembly and it makes it much easier but I would pay someone to do it if I have to do it again. On my car it made a world of difference in smoothing out shifts and such, I would recommend replacing it if you want to enjoy the car more. I'm Pretty sure the throw out bearing on my car is going because I still get some inconsistent shifting and the dreaded clutch squeak halfway through the throw on the pedal. You can go to the s4 section for details:
    *DIY*-Stainless Slave Line - a must have for all 6MT owners
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672961

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    Veteran Member Four Rings kaz02a4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub_prime View Post
    We can only guess as to why the valve is there, most people say it is like the clutch delay valves on most of the other modern cars that restricts the flow to the slave to reduce shock to the clutch. With all the others out there it only serves to make it harder to drive more aggressively and some say it even increases wear because it actually delays the engagement of the clutch.
    I have it installed on my A4 and the install is a bitch... Take out the wiper assembly and it makes it much easier but I would pay someone to do it if I have to do it again. On my car it made a world of difference in smoothing out shifts and such, I would recommend replacing it if you want to enjoy the car more. I'm Pretty sure the throw out bearing on my car is going because I still get some inconsistent shifting and the dreaded clutch squeak halfway through the throw on the pedal. You can go to the s4 section for details:
    *DIY*-Stainless Slave Line - a must have for all 6MT owners
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672961
    That's what I figured. I'm an engineer by day, and have been wondering what the use of that valve is. Audi wouldn't throw money and complication at something for no reason (hopefully...), so there's a good reason for the valve. Why? No one seems to know. If it's to reduce "shock" and make for a "smoother" engagement, I think that would make sense. If the fluid is restricted flowing to and from the slave, it will make the engagement lethargic, reducing "shock" to both the clutch and to the passengers. Okay. Got it.

    We, as enthusiasts, don't miss shifts. We don't burn our clutches. And we certainly don't tolerate lethargic clutch engagement. I'm going to pick this guy up and run through the install on an A4, and hopefully get a good DIY for everyone. I'll have access to a shop, a lift, and gobs of time to do this. I'll also be tearing apart my calipers to powder coat them, and replacing all of the pads, rotors, fluid, etc. The hydraulic system on this car will be getting a thorough makeover, and I'm very excited!
    RIP B7: Stg. 1 UM, RS4 rear sway, Apikol snub mount, trip computer retrofit, OEM bi-xenons retrofit, RS4 seats retrofit, B7 S4 Ti wheels, BSH CC, 034 SD mounts, restitched steering wheel by my own hand

    Hello B8: P+ Quattro, 6 Speed, Sport. Stg. 1 APR, CR-15, Fly Designs steering wheel, Euro Impulse shift knob, Macan BBK, Alu Kreuz, 034 RSB + endlinks, SPC control arms...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings blbroo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub_prime View Post
    We can only guess as to why the valve is there, most people say it is like the clutch delay valves on most of the other modern cars that restricts the flow to the slave to reduce shock to the clutch. With all the others out there it only serves to make it harder to drive more aggressively and some say it even increases wear because it actually delays the engagement of the clutch.
    I have it installed on my A4 and the install is a bitch... Take out the wiper assembly and it makes it much easier but I would pay someone to do it if I have to do it again. On my car it made a world of difference in smoothing out shifts and such, I would recommend replacing it if you want to enjoy the car more. I'm Pretty sure the throw out bearing on my car is going because I still get some inconsistent shifting and the dreaded clutch squeak halfway through the throw on the pedal. You can go to the s4 section for details:
    *DIY*-Stainless Slave Line - a must have for all 6MT owners
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=672961
    Could write the same post.

    Install is painful.

    Clutch feel is more natural and direct after.

    I have the squeaking noise now, but my clutch is being replaced next week anyway.
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