Cam Adjuster Seals P000A

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Fixed!!

[Axis]

I didnt find any solution and paid the %?*% 60$, at least they're the plastic/teflon version which are better than the metal version and wont score the cam adjuster (Dont even know if it really has a negative impact but oh well)

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Yeah I agree. I'll just bite the bullet


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I didnt find any solution and paid the %?*% 60$, at least they're the plastic/teflon version which are better than the metal version and wont score the cam adjuster (Dont even know if it really has a negative impact but oh well)

Did you have to drain the oil to take the rear can cover off? I had my oil out of the car anyway because I was doing and oil change but I'm not sure if it's necessary…


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[Okedokey]

To install them and not break them, line up all the compression gaps of each ring, use your fingers to slightly compress as you insert them back in.

[idrinkv8]

Okedokey ;) what about the oil? Does it need to be drained?


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[Okedokey]

I do every time I open up the engine like that. Probably not necessary, but the cost of oil etc s piece of mind.

[Charles.waite]

You definitely don't need to drain the oil, no oil should be sitting in the cover.

[Okedokey]

Charles are you saying there is no oil in the cam adjuster area?

[aluthman]

No oil should be pooled in the cover. There will probably be just enough to make a mess.

[Okedokey]

Im still confused. I thought oil is wanted in there to lubricate the cam lobe, gears etc? no oil?

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This is my dilemma lol


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[aluthman]

Oil is pumped to that area when the engine is running, but when it is off, there is no standing oil in that area. It all drains back to the oil pan.

[Theiceman]

I just did this last weekend too. There is oil there but it's not like a sump and comes pouring out. You will get a few table spoons. Some will be in the adjuster galleries too so if you set the cover down wrong more will come out.
I had the metal rings and I was glad. No scoring. No breakage and no f'ing 60 bucks. I was gonna put the Teflon ones on till I saw the price.
I just put some assembly lube on the tapered cam surface and they slipped right in. I also put assembly lube on the HPFP cam surface
All went smooth. That vacuum pump bolt with the ground bracket I thought was a pig tho

[idrinkv8]

Yeah for sure that ground bolt is a pain. Good to hear about the oil though. I'm pretty well versed in this assembly now having done it twice lol. And now the new fuel pump integration has a pressure relief valve which should make the reopening of the cam cover quicker too. Oh well here goes nothing


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[Okedokey]

I just did this last weekend too. There is oil there it it's not like s dump and comes pouring out. You will get s few table spoons. Done will be in the adjuster galleries too do if you set the cover down wrong more will come out.
I had the metal rings and I was glad. No scoring. No breakage and no f'ing 60 bucks. I was gonna put the Teflon ones on till I saw the price.
I just put some assembly lube on the tapered cam surface and they slipped right in. I also put assembly lube on the HPFP cam surface
All went smooth. That vacuum pump bolt with the ground bracket I thought was a pig tho

Not a good idea. Assembly lube is grease and doesn't dissolve in oil ad can cause damage.

[Theiceman]

Assembly lube is assembly lube and is used to assemble engines until oil starts starts to circulate and is fully disolvable in contact with oil and heat . That's its entire function. I've assembled enough engines to know. If you think it's grease its obvious you have never used it.

[Theiceman]

That pressure relief is a Schrader valve and it's only function is to hook up a pressure guage. You can use it to relieve pressure in the system when servicing but it's the same as cracking the line with a wrench . If that think ever " opened to relieve pressure" you would likely have a car fire on your hands. Early cars didn't even have it. I put a plug fitting in that port so I can get to the bolts underneath easier.

[idrinkv8]

That pressure relief is a Schrader valve and it's only function is to hook up a pressure guage. You can use it to relieve pressure in the system when servicing but it's the same as cracking the line with a wrench . If that think ever " opened to relieve pressure" you would likely have a car fire on your hands. Early cars didn't even have it. I put a plug fitting in that port so I can get to the bolts underneath easier.

Yeah that's what I meant actually, I didn't mean a pressure relief valve I meant more of a service valve. Obviously if it was a pressure relief valve fuel would just be blowing out of it out of the high-pressure system. Honestly the easiest way to relieve the pressure is to pull the fuel pump fuse and turn it over a couple times…


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[Theiceman]

Yeah that's what I meant actually, I didn't mean a pressure relief valve I meant more of a service valve. Obviously if it was a pressure relief valve fuel would just be blowing out of it out of the high-pressure system. Honestly the easiest way to relieve the pressure is to pull the fuel pump fuse and turn it over a couple times…


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car-b-q time :)

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[Okedokey]

Assembly lube is assembly lube and is used to assemble engines until oil starts starts to circulate and is fully disolvable in contact with oil and heat . That's its entire function. I've assembled enough engines to know. If you think it's grease its obvious you have never used it.

Not all assembly lubes are soluble in oil, that is my point. Some are, some are not. Plus there are areas in the timing chain location where there are small oil ducts, I wouldn't want to risk partially blocking them.

[Theiceman]

Not all assembly lubes are soluble in oil, that is my point. Some are, some are not. Plus there are areas in the timing chain location where there are small oil ducts, I wouldn't want to risk partially blocking them.

okay go build an engine and don't put any assembly lube on your rod bearings or mains , ( you know, the ones with those really tiny holes ) , lets see how it goes for you. but then again you have no idea what silicon lube is and thought the silicon would plug up the engine when sprayed on a thermostat to release the fittings .. maybe you are just limited on your chemical offerings/knowledge and are unfamiliar with the products you are commenting on.

Nevertheless Op you will be fine .

[Charles.waite]

Assembly lube is assembly lube and is used to assemble engines until oil starts starts to circulate and is fully disolvable in contact with oil and heat . That's its entire function. I've assembled enough engines to know. If you think it's grease its obvious you have never used it.

This. It's literally in the name of the product. I used it on my cam replacement job and haven't destroyed anything. And I'm not worried I will.

[Charles.waite]

Not all assembly lubes are soluble in oil, that is my point. Some are, some are not. Plus there are areas in the timing chain location where there are small oil ducts, I wouldn't want to risk partially blocking them.

I guarantee you, any assembly line meant for automotive engine use is certainly designed to dissolve in oil. I'm sure there are industrial lubes that aren't but why would you use that in your engine??

[Okedokey]

^ Simply not true. Talks about it here http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2013...ses-and-lubes/