General RNS-E Information Q&A

[Four Play]

This may be a silly question, but the FAQ mentioned you cant play CDs while navigation is active w/o a CD changer, so can you play the radio while the navigation in active?

[AudiA4b6US]

This may be a silly question, but the FAQ mentioned you cant play CDs while navigation is active w/o a CD changer, so can you play the radio while the navigation in active?

Yes, radio and SD cards play just fine.

[Four Play]

Yes, radio and SD cards play just fine.

Thanks

I'll be picking one of these up soon

[dandmx04]

Can u explain how can i make several subfolders on my MP3 cards and the unit still recognize them and let me choose between them ?

[AudiA4b6US]

Just create the folders. When you insert the card, the RNS-E will start playing form the lowest subfolder inside the first folder. User the RETURN button to go one folder level up, or press RETURN several times to go to the root of the card.

[dandmx04]

tks..it worked

[dekidex]

Hello
Question from a new 2001 S8 owner with symphony II.

So can i just buy a RNS-e from ebay from a european seller,then simply have it instaled at a local sound shop?Is it plug and play?And in order for the Nav system to work i only need to get the NA DVD ROM for the Nav???

Thank You for any help!
Dean

[Audi 2007]

I am the new guy here and want to say hi to everybody!!! Please help me with the advice. I have bought the Audi A6 3.2 2007 model in the USA and brought it to Canada. I have CD changer in my glove department and how can I find if my navigation can work. Looks like it is CD based navigation and when I press NAV OR INFO button on my MMI the massage is navigation CD is not installed. Can I just buy the CD or I need to do something different?
Thank you!!!

[feza4]

Ok guys, looking to invest in one of these but have some ?'s about specifics of the system and its "user friendliness".

Currently in a 2007 A4 2.0tq. Enjoying the Symphony II unit (which includes the 6-cd changer), as well as the stock Audi BT integration. Was contemplating getting the RNS-E but needed to know.
a) Will my stock bluetooth integration swap over to the Nav unit or will I have to buy the bluetooth add-on for this specific unit?
b) Does this unit allow for a 6-cd changer to be added on, (whether in the trunk or glovebox)?
c) What is the ipod story? Expensive... easier interaction over the symphony unit. Pictures speak louder than words for me on this one if anyone would like to help me out.
Just wondering on all this b/c the avic units were on my list of possibilities alongside the RNS. That stock look is just soo much sexier though.

-Thanks in advance to anyone who can clarify any of this for me, much appreciated.

[AudiA4b6US]

Bluetooth will continue to work, even better with the proper coding. You can add a glovebox changer but most people just use SD cards instead (much cheaper option and much better integrated since you can see artist/title/album on SD cards). It's iPod or CD changer anyway, not both at the same time, and all iPod integrations suck big time right now. iPod control looks and feels like CD control with your Symphony, no names/titles/etc, get the picture.

[feza4]

Proper coding... so if I were to buy it now would I be able to hook up my phone right from the get go? As far as the ipod thing goes, I know the Symphony system has absolute crap when it comes to ipod integration. Im wondering if the RNS unit is any different/easier/ more user friendly with aftermarket integration. As I said before, pictures/ user testament would help a lot. Thanks, I know I'm picky about my questions, just want to make sure my money is going to good use.

[wayneair]

hi, i'm brand frickkin' new to the world of Audi, as of 3 days ago. i just got an 06 A4 with bose symphony (which i suspect is symphony 2) w/ xm. so let me get this straight, i can get a RNS-e, unplug my symphony, plug in the RNS and be good to go?

[downhillracer]

Would i still be able to use my dice ipod integration? Thanks (btw i have a 03 a4 with bose)

[fritzner]

hey Dirk, Dave, Proxus, and German Driver!

i havent really seen you over here much.. or maybe were just hanging out in different areas..

i've said it over on navplus.us, but i will say it here.. if it werent for you we wouldnt be near where we are with the RNS-E.. thanks for all your help!!..

[4RingRook]

I'm going to bump this thread as I'm strongly considering adding the RNS E, but I have some questions.

I currently have the Symphony II w/o Bose. I also have, and would like to keep, Sirius. If I buy the RNS, can I reuse the same module? (I see the Sirius listed above for the RNS, but I'm not sure if they're compatible) - Would I need to call Sirius to update the device ID?

The model number Ive been looking at in the classifieds is 8E0 035 192 C (most common above).

Also, how difficult is the install? If you do not have the multicolor DIS, will the nav directions still display?

Thanks, and my apologies if these questions have been asked before.

[bl0wn3ur0]

hey im interested in picking up a rns-e but ive read that some people were having problems getting their rds(radio info on dis) to work, is that a normal problem or did these people do something wrong?

I only ask because i can get a pioneer hu for a good price but dont want to lose my dis funtion.

[scoobycarolan]

I have been considering a major internal upgrade on my B7. I currently have the stock radio & Sirius. If I want RNS-E, iPod, & Bluetooth should I do them all at once?

Will I still need the GPS antenna if I have satellite?

Will I need to Vag-Com anything to get it all up and running?

[MCT9891]

Whats up buddy, Difference between EU and USA? Anything major?

[clumpymold]

Wow, GREAT thread! I finally have ALL my questions regarding RNS-E answered. FINALLY! Thank you!!!

[DG_ie]

Newbie here....

Symphony II (BOSE fully Amplified) to RNS-E (8PO 035 192 S)?

Plug and play install, except for GPS antenae behind the instrument panel.

I know this have probably been asked and answered many times. Great forum by the way.

Thanks!

[koolade9]

Newbie here....

Symphony II (BOSE fully Amplified) to RNS-E (8PO 035 192 S)?

Plug and play install, except for GPS antenae behind the instrument panel.

I know this have probably been asked and answered many times. Great forum by the way.

Thanks!

what specifically would you like to know?

you can buy everything you need right here: navparts.com

[DG_ie]

I want to upgrade from Symphony II Bose to RNS-E. I want to include the Bluetooth module. I know what I need, I just need to get it!.

Anyone have experience with the blue tooth functionality for iPhone 3G?

Would you people recommend the upgrade?

[arun]

no posts on here lately...anyone know where to buy an rns-e from a reputable seller who is not out of stock? i have a b6 a4 with bose...any help in the right direction would be great, navparts.com seems to be out of stock, and i am a bit wary of the e-bay sellers from Poland. anyone else buy from these guys with good results?

[Sharkfin]

several pop up every week in the classifieds, get one of those

[BASARAB]

There are also some units on Ebay from NA sellers

[arun]

several pop up every week in the classifieds, get one of those

i have been checking the classifieds, but i want something that is either new or in near perfect condition and has all the harnesses / discs / codes i will need...i was more looking for a known seller who has inventory and decent prices - do you know of any?

[arun]

There are also some units on Ebay from NA sellers

do you know of any legit NA sellers who are not private parties? a good recommendation would really put my fears of ebaying at ease...thanks

[BASARAB]

do you know of any legit NA sellers who are not private parties? a good recommendation would really put my fears of ebaying at ease...thanks

Dont know, but Kuko from Poland is legit, have not heard complains about him

[Sharkfin]

There are no regular NA sellers for a decent price, and I have heard bad things of Kuko and he's not allowed to post on here about them anymore either.

[badger1]

General Information Q&A
Q: What model RNS-E should I get?
A: 8P0 035 192 Audi A3 Europe: 8P
8P0 035 192 A Audi A3 Europe (MY 2006, without SDS) 8P
8P0 035 192 C Audi A3 North America (Basic, MY 2006) 8P *
8P0 035 192 F Audi A3 Europe (MY 2006, with SDS) 8P
8E0 035 192 C Audi A4 Europe (B6/B7) Most common
8E0 035 192 D Audi A4 Europe (B7, MY 2006, without SDS)
8E0 035 192 E Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2005.5)
8E0 035 192 F Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 J Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 H Audi A4 Europe (B7, MY 2006, with SDS)
4B0 035 192 P Audi A6 Europe, C5 and Allroad (A4 B5 with faceplate mod)
4B0 035 192 R Audi A6 North America, C5 and Allroad (A4 B5 with faceplate mod)

Can someone clarify this? Is there a specific model I should look for (2004 S4) or will any work as long as it's North American? Thanks!

[Sharkfin]

C-H, but for C/D you have to recode the unit to NA specs

[Naudi04]

Anyone know if this will work in a 2004 S4 non-bose with factory Nav & Sat? I contacted the seller but he doesn't know exactly if it will work for my needs.

Seller says he believes it will work with A4/S4 and includes:
Navigation unit RNS-E
GPS antenna (which I don't need I already have sharkfin)
Original DVD map (2009)
Removal tools
Security code card
SD card (1Gb)
Plug and play adapter
User Manual

Productions date: 2009/04/22
Audi Partnumber: 8E0 035 192 T
Hardware status: H76
Software status: 0650

8E0 035 192 T Audi A4 Europe, MY 2008, 8E B7, sw 0650

Looks to be a Euro model from 2008-09 models. What needs to be done to these to run in America with Nav/Sat? is the 0650 supported?

Thanks!

[PNW Avant]

Revision T is a European unit from 2008.

The software status is also European. This means the DVD is also euro.

It could also be a burned DVD with US maps patched to work with a European unit.

If you don't use the provided antenna, you'll need to buy a shark fin extension cable, and run it from the RNS-e through the headliner all the way to the back of your car where the antenna is located. The connections up front do not come stock.

Harnesses sold on the internet are hit and miss at best for Symphony II integration. Many people are fabricating these incorrectly.

Your SAT module will likely not work with the RNS-e, depending on the model number of the module. There are two revisions each for Sirius/XM modules. 1 for RNS-e, 1 not for RNS-e.

Hope this helps.

[Naudi04]

Revision T is a European unit from 2008.

The software status is also European. This means the DVD is also euro.

It could also be a burned DVD with US maps patched to work with a European unit.

If you don't use the provided antenna, you'll need to buy a shark fin extension cable, and run it from the RNS-e through the headliner all the way to the back of your car where the antenna is located. The connections up front do not come stock.

Harnesses sold on the internet are hit and miss at best for Symphony II integration. Many people are fabricating these incorrectly.

Your SAT module will likely not work with the RNS-e, depending on the model number of the module. There are two revisions each for Sirius/XM modules. 1 for RNS-e, 1 not for RNS-e.

Hope this helps.

Thx PNW Avant.

My car DID come factory with Sharkfin/Nav in instrument cluster. I'm still at a loss on how or if the in cluster will work after in Install RNS-E, or how to get the wires from my Sharkfin into the RNS-E. Is there a cable behind the stock Symphony II I can use (the factory nav cable)?

So after reading all over the place I guess my only concern is being able to reprogram this Euro model to US. Make sure the plug-n-play adaptor wiring harness works, and then get a 2010 DVD maps disc and do another update so I'm current.

I understand that my Sat won't work unless I upgrade my sat box model. I'm just going to pass on that entirely, as I don't use Sat - did in the past, but don't care for it anymore.

A few of the threads I read were related to converting a EU model to US. They really didn't go into much detail in terms of how to start/finish, but vag-com and some software. All these threads are really old, and I don't know if the " T " model even allows for a EU to US change.

http://audiforum.us/maps-firmware/37...pendent-5.html

http://www.audiforum.us/rns-e/777-an...are-b6-a4.html

http://www.audiforum.us/rns-e/501-eu...nt-issues.html

http://www.audiforum.us/rns-e/1480-a...-question.html

Any other ideas??

[PNW Avant]

You will be able to flash any RNS-e, regardless of the revision, to be a US model.

You can use the VAG COM to program your RNS-e to display directions in the instrument cluster, in addition to the RNS-e screen.

All the S4s came with the sharkfin antenna. My car didn't have NAV or SAT radio, but all the connections are still there in the cargo area. I actually just added a SAT radio module, it was totally plug and pay. Sounds like you had the stock, b6 nav system with controls on the console.

I believe your old nav module is the back, behind the trunk panel. That's where the sat/GPS connections would be for that module. You won't have any GPS antenna connections up front, but I'd suggest just using the antenna that people are including with these retrofit kits. I had an RNSe for a while, and I just mounted the antenna behind the dash, specifically on top of my glove box. I got great SAT reception. If you are REALLY anal about the install, you'll get the extension cable though.

There's a DIY, albeit a little vague, for euro to US conversion on this telematics forum, including the files to use. Try that out.

[Naudi04]

Good information PWN, appreciate it!

I did find a local mechanic who has a VAG COM and who can assist me if needed. Although he has never done anything with the RNS-E system I'm confident I'll figure it out from the information online.

I would really like to utilize the sharkfin so maybe I'll have to do the extension cable. I wasn't aware all S4's came with the Sharkfin though, learn something new everyday :)

Sure would be nice to have a functional nav on my inst. cluster and on the RNS-E, curious if any updates are made in the inst. Cluster with those new map discs. The graphics in the inst. cluster are pretty horrific, but still work I guess as intended.

[PNW Avant]

You just get directions in the display, I believe, just like you had before. It's a pretty easy modification:

Select Control Module > 17- Instruments > Adaptation 10.

Channel Section, type 62, hit read. Add 4 to this value, hit test, then save.

Should work within a day, coding can be finicky.

Also, when you get and install your RNS-e unit, you'll want to re-code the unit to correspond to the specific options in your car (cd changer, bose, sat, etc.) This is done via RNS-e and VAG COM and info can be found here.

http://audiforum.us/rns-e/11750-sort...tallation.html

[czsrock1990]

ok so basically im not really familiar with car talk, i have an rns-e that does not have bluetooth or movie capability, but i want i to have them so what do i need to have it be able to

1)play movies (while in motion)
2)have bluetooth capabilities

[PNW Avant]

Dude your question has been answered several times.

For bluetooth you need:

1 Bluetooth module.
2 Bluetooth antenna
3 Bluetooth mic (unless you have Onstar)
4 Custom harness (unless you have Onstar)

For DVD player you need:

1. External DVD player
2. Custom harness
3. Software hack to allow video in motion.

No offense, but considering I've already answered this question explicitly in this forum and the main B6/B7 forum, I don't think this is a project you should undertake yourself. This is not necessarily "plug and play" work. Take it to a professional to acquire these parts and perform the work.

[Naudi04]

C-H, but for C/D you have to recode the unit to NA specs

So just to clarify this again. If you don't want to re-flash the Euro units to US and or worry about any issues, these are the only units to buy for A4/S4 B6+ correct for direct plug-n-play US?
US RNS-E only
8E0 035 192 E Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2005.5)
8E0 035 192 F Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 J Audi A4 North America (B7, MY 2006, with SDS?) *
8E0 035 192 P Audi A4 North America, MY 2007, 8E B7

Any other newer US model #'s?

And these are the disc(s) I would want for the most current maps (either)? And these map discs are compatible with all these RNS-E's above?
NAVIGATION DVD for RNS-E only
8P0 919 884 P (2007-0150) North America (3A)
8P0 919 884 Q (2007_1-0200) North America (4A)
8P0 919 884 AC (2008-0260) North America (5A) - DISABLES TV FUNCTIONALITY
8P0 919 884 AH (2009-0260) North America (6A) - TV FUNCTIONALITY STILL DISABLED

http://audiforum.us/part-numbers/763...t-numbers.html