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    Took the B9 A4 to Limerock

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    Just spent two days with the car at Limerock. I ran the stock crap Pirelli Cintuaros that came on the 18" rims. I had stickier rubber on my 19" TSWs in the truck but decided the stock brakes weren't up to the task of doing any extra work. I intended to destroy the stock tires so I wouldn't feel so bad taking off brand new tires when I put on the winter tires. Mission accomplished.

    Takeaways - my first session was disappointing, since it wasn't a Z06 race car and the complete lack of comparative performance was disheartening. I cooked the brakes in about 5 laps trying to brake late and hard like I'm used to (I got lazy and decided to run the stock brake fluid). Had the tires howling from pit out for the entire session. I passed only one car in the instructor group when I'm used to lapping most of them. Just clicked my stop watch a couple of times to get lap times and they were all 1:09s. I run 57s in the Vette.

    So at first I was bummed. But the second session I started driving it like a stock street car instead of a prepared race car. I braked light and early to preserve the brakes. I started getting the car to rotate by snapping off the throttle and adding some Scandinavian flick when needed. That was fun. Rolled up on some Miatae and Loti and was able to get past them. Was pleasantly surprised that I had to lift to let the B8 S4s by in the straights.

    So, after I drove the car more appropriately I started to have a lot more fun. Suspension was quite good. Car definitely needs high temp brake fluid and more aggressive pads. Power is a fine amount for the chassis and suspension. Car is far too quiet to make use of the DSG. I just left it in sport mode since it will shift itself at redline in manual mode and you can't hear the revs in the car with a helmet and the window down. But sport mode was mostly fine. A 6 speed would definitely be more fun on track.

    It started pouring at the end of the day and that's when I really started to have fun. I drove the car in 2 20 minute wet sessions and my brother drove it for 20 minutes as well. The car was a blast to rotate with throttle applications, crap all season tires suddenly became the tire to have and I went from being one of the slowest cars to one if the fastest. Again car would have been way more fun in the wet with a 6 speed or if I had used manual mode in the DSG.

    Soooooooooo my tires are shot (which was the plan) and the brakes need fresh fluid, but other than that the car was solid. Friday was 82 degrees and the car never got above dead center on the water temp gauge. With good tires and brakes car is capable of 1:05s at Limerock which ain't too shabby. I'd encourage any of you to get the B9 on track and ring it's neck a little. Tis a capable little car on track as long as you don't abuse it.

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    little car
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeBandit View Post
    little car
    I guess little compared to the 2013 A6 I had before it!

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    As a fellow owner of the Vette' (10 Grand Sport) and A4 combo, I totally anticipated what happened when it rained. The Audis go from being one of the slower cars to one of the fastest, as Quattro and the stable (understeering) chassis outweigh power and RWD. The 'Vette drops to the back as you can't get the horsepower advantage to the ground. I went 4 wheels off at Lime Rock with mine in the rain trying to keep up with AWD guys with 200 less horsepower!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smonska View Post
    As a fellow owner of the Vette' (10 Grand Sport) and A4 combo, I totally anticipated what happened when it rained. The Audis go from being one of the slower cars to one of the fastest, as Quattro and the stable (understeering) chassis outweigh power and RWD.
    Slap some Hoosier wets on that Vette and it's a different animal in the rain. A true rain tire is like cheating when it's actually raining. I used Conti wets for the first time at Tremblant two years ago and the grip was astounding. I was lapping S4s in the pouring rain. Just bought a fresh set of Hoosier H20s for racing this season, which of course means it will never rain again!

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    LOL... Strap a set of Hoosier Wets on an Audi and you'll still stay ahead of the Vettes, BMWs and Porsches... But wait! I stay ahead of all those cars even in the dry with my B6 A4! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetspeed View Post
    I guess little compared to the 2013 A6 I had before it!
    Yup, It's a very little car for sure! I'm only about 5' 11" and there was absolutely no room behind me for the rear passenger.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Jet Jockey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaHahn View Post
    Yup, It's a very little car for sure! I'm only about 5' 11" and there was absolutely no room behind me for the rear passenger.
    What? I'm also 5'11" and there is plenty of room behind the driver's seat when I'm well adjusted and in the correct driving position in a B9 A4 and even in my B6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Jockey View Post
    What? I'm also 5'11" and there is plenty of room behind the driver's seat when I'm well adjusted and in the correct driving position in a B9 A4 and even in my B6.
    Guess it depends on the size of he rear passenger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasiamon View Post
    Guess it depends on the size of he rear passenger?
    Lol... I guess he must be jumbo sized! If I set the driver's seat for my driving position, I can sit in the rear seat no problem and be comfortable.

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    This thread is super off topic but couldn't help but +1 to this - I'm 6'4", and I can sit behind myself no problem.
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    [QUOTE=ConstantNRG;11627472 I can sit behind myself no problem.[/QUOTE]

    Whoa man, that's deep. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstantNRG View Post
    This thread is super off topic but couldn't help but +1 to this - I'm 6'4", and I can sit behind myself no problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Jockey View Post
    Lol... I guess he must be jumbo sized! If I set the driver's seat for my driving position, I can sit in the rear seat no problem and be comfortable.
    OK....time to call BS!! Seriously. I'm not ridin' "gansta style either!" But I do drive relaxed with a little recline and moved back a little but nothing crazy! My dad is 6' 3" and couldn't fit behind me at all, NO way! So the whole 6' 4" and I can sit behind myself is false, come on man! Even all the many reviews Online and TV shows, it's a small 4-door, lets be honest! Put a car seat, a "convertible car seat," for 20lbs+ baby and forget about it! No need to get defensive, it's a small car.
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    Just an update in case anyone wants to track their car in the future. My Corvette has still not finished dry sump surgery so I had to bring the A4 to the track on Monday. Venue was Palmer Motorsports Park, a great new track in Massachusetts. Having learned that early and light braking is needed with the stock brakes, I had no issues this time out. Just made the stock all seasons squeal like pigs everywhere and was easy on the brakes. Still feel the chassis and suspension are pretty decent and power is adequate. Again stickier tires and good pads and fluid would make the car much more fun on the track, but it's fine for light duty as long as you don't murder the brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetspeed View Post
    Just an update in case anyone wants to track their car in the future. My Corvette has still not finished dry sump surgery so I had to bring the A4 to the track on Monday. Venue was Palmer Motorsports Park, a great new track in Massachusetts. Having learned that early and light braking is needed with the stock brakes, I had no issues this time out. Just made the stock all seasons squeal like pigs everywhere and was easy on the brakes. Still feel the chassis and suspension are pretty decent and power is adequate. Again stickier tires and good pads and fluid would make the car much more fun on the track, but it's fine for light duty as long as you don't murder the brakes.
    I don't think you ever mentioned the specs of your A4 - sport suspension, I assume?
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    This is my first Audi.

    Any recommendations for track pads? I've had good luck with Carbotec on other cars.

    Anything special to know about swapping pads or flushing brake fluid?

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