SQ5 Suspension / Wheel issue

[JayCar]

I had H&R Street Performance coil overs and adjustable control arms along with new Vff103s installed this week.

Here's my issue.. Alignment is to spec according to the sheet I received from the shop. They also said it was aligned twice to ensure no issues. The problem is that the drivers side rear wheel sticks out about .5 more than the passenger side. I really can't imagine what the issue is.

Could the rear cradle/subframe be out of adjustment? My next trip is to the dealer to have them look at it. Visually it's driving me nuts. To the point I'm ready to pull it all off and try something else suspension and wheel wise.

Thoughts?

[andrios]

I'm actually thinking about getting those same wheels.

Could it be possible your offsets are different lol?

[JayCar]

We checked that. That was my first thought too. :-)

[andrios]

What size/offset wheels did you get?

sorry im no help on your current situation...

[IanSQ5]

nearly all Audi/VW rear subframes sit over to one side, no idea why and no idea if you can fix it.

[JayCar]

How is it that I'm the only SQ person that's had the issue and can't stand it? I haven't seen the brought up in this forum. I found some info on it in one of the VW MKV forums, but nothing here. That's all I can focus on. It's driving me nuts. There's got to be a fix for it.

[IanSQ5]

just add a touch more camber to the side that is out

[JayCar]

I need to post pics because more camber isn't going to fix this.

Adding camber just masks the real issue here. I'm going to take it to the dealer and see if the my can do a rear subframe move/shift. There's no way it's right.

[Pepper SQ5]

I haven't noticed it on my SQ and to be honest, I'm hoping that if it does exist, that I don't notice it for the sake of my sanity!

[pogiFRESH]

nearly all Audi/VW rear subframes sit over to one side, no idea why and no idea if you can fix it.

also very common on BMW's, I've had 4 BMW's all with the same issue...

[JayCar]

also very common on BMW's, I've had 4 BMW's all with the same issue...

Did you fix it? If so how?

[drumnjuny]

yup very common on audi's, i'm not sure about other makes though.

only way to fix is to unbolt the entire subframe and realign it, then tighten it down. its a HUGE pain in the dickhole.

I haven't noticed it on my SQ and to be honest, I'm hoping that if it does exist, that I don't notice it for the sake of my sanity!

THIS. lmao

[JayCar]

Well, I guess I'm going to have pain in my dick hole because I can't tolerate the imbalance.

Could this have happened as a result of carelessness on a suspension install?

[JayCar]

Passenger rear:



Driver rear:

[andrios]

Ok that's not normal. ^^

[JayCar]

How in the world is that "normal"?

[S-Fore]

And you're 110% sure that the wheel specs are identical..?

That isn't 'just a tad off'

[SQive]

O. . .M. . .G !!!
How do you sleep at night?
Do you still drive it in this condition?
Dear lord, looks like it might flip over like Fred Flintstone's car at the drive-in.


Seriously though, manually measure your off-sets.
They could have been machined one way and stamped another.

[andrios]

And you're 110% sure that the wheel specs are identical..?

That isn't 'just a tad off'

Voresteiner's SQ5 application on there website has them as different sizes. Mops previous V-ff 103s were different sizes. Fronts are less concave than rears and 9 vs 10.5 width.

He said he checked them so I'm sure that's not the issue.

Take it to the dealer.

[drumnjuny]

Well, I guess I'm going to have pain in my dick hole because I can't tolerate the imbalance.

Could this have happened as a result of carelessness on a suspension install?

holy shit that's crazy. did you get an alignment after lowering??

i've only seen a difference of about 5mm but when you're slammed in a small car and stancing to the point where you nail the offset down to a mm, it becomes obvious. that is a massive difference though.

[Skyler@Achtuning]

We had a Q5 here about a year or so ago with a set of new aftermarket wheels where one wheel was machined 5mm incorrectly, ended up causing all sorts of problems as the customer threaded the lugs too far in destroying the ABS sensor, hubs and lugs.

[Pepper SQ5]

what size & offset did you order?

[drumnjuny]

We had a Q5 here about a year or so ago with a set of new aftermarket wheels where one wheel was machined 5mm incorrectly, ended up causing all sorts of problems as the customer threaded the lugs too far in destroying the ABS sensor, hubs and lugs.

holy tits. i did this once way back when i was a noob. luckily didn't shear anything though, just couldn't move then swapped wheels back lol and then next day realized my mistake was using the wrong size lug bolts.

[S-Fore]

who cares what the mfg or website claims....or anyone selling you the wheels for that matter too... We're all human and mistakes happen. id have the wheels off and manually measuring them first thing...

Easy enough, throw the stockers back on and measure if there is a difference...

Voresteiner's SQ5 application on there website has them as different sizes. Mops previous V-ff 103s were different sizes. Fronts are less concave than rears and 9 vs 10.5 width.

He said he checked them so I'm sure that's not the issue.

Take it to the dealer.

[drumnjuny]

or swap wheels left to right. take the right one throw it on the left and vice versa. see if you get the same offset.

[Pepper SQ5]

Simple solution to verify the wheel offsets without taking anything off:


Take a piece of wood that goes across the face of rim, then use a tape measure to see what the measurement is to the hub (or even the rotor since its just for confirming pad size.) from the wood. IF the wheels are off, then it will reflect in the distance.

[Qumag]

I bet my money that's a different wheel offset. A shifted rear subframe would cause a lot of drive line binding and knocking. OP didn't specificy anything like that on the original thread. OP, why would they mess around with the rear subframe for a coilover install??? I had my suspension install and the shop who did mine never once touch or drop the subframe.

[JayCar]

I need to respond to everyone. Busy weekend. lol.

[S-Fore]

Yeah, what happened???

I need to respond to everyone. Busy weekend. lol.

[JayCar]

Ok folks... Sorry for my delay in response. Funny how a lot of things hit at once. LOL

I checked the offset on the wheels (Vorsteiners) and they're exactly the same, so it has to be a subframe issue.

I had the ride height adjusted up some and that GREATLY improved my ride. It was too low to start off with. When we did that, it made the poke a bit less noticeable. It's still there, but not as bad visually. In the end, I think it's going to take a trip to the dealer to get it fixed.

Between the new suspension, wheels and tires, it was a HUGE visual change from stock. In the end, it looks awesome and handles great.

[turrifik]

What was the outcome of this asymmetric poke investigation? Was it ultimately an uneven height issue? Hope you're still happy. Any more pictures of you set up?


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[JayCar]

It's actually still uneven, but no one ever notices. lol. I get a ridiculous a pint of compliments and head turns, so I haven't bothered to get the rear cradle aligned. I have posted a couple pics in the SQ5 wheel thread as well.