Bfgoodrich g-force comp-2 A/S or continental extremecontact dws 06

[S4audi15]

Anything but these noisy oem continental tires! Man as the miles went past 10k did these tires get noisy and the damn vibration! Anyway it's time for new tires and I'm looking for an all season tire. Any feedback from you guys who have either tire would be great. Thanks.


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[4wheelpilot]

Anything but these noisy oem continental tires! Man as the miles went past 10k did these tires get noisy and the damn vibration! Anyway it's time for new tires and I'm looking for an all season tire. Any feedback from you guys who have either tire would be great. Thanks.


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I've been looking at my next set of tires and these two are on the short list.
As you know, and based on Tirerack reviews, they both perform very well.
Some differences...
BFG-less expensive but lower mileage warranty (45k), very aggressive looking tread, inferior light snow traction, big negative is that it's heavier
DWS 06-more expensive but has a 50k mileage warranty, more traditional tread design, better snow traction, DWS has long tradition as a great overall AS tire, lighter!

One reviewer claimed that this BFG tire is made by Conti.

I had the previous generation DWS (pre -06) tire and liked it a lot.

Based on all this, and if you don't mind the extra cost, I'd go with the DWS 06.

Good Luck.

[4wheelpilot]

OP, just noticed that you live in central NJ.
If this will be you're only set of tires, I would definitely go with the DWS 06 because of their superior winter performance.

[TappaNuKegga]

I just bought a set of ExtremeContact DW summer tires. Could not be happier with them in every way except possibly how the tread looks from the side, a little too chunky/off-road for a strictly summer tire.

You need a good set of snow tires to get the full quattro experience IMO. If anybody is selling their 18" wheel+snow tire setup or just the snow tires let me know.

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[WJN S4]

I had the 1st gen DWS, and just switched to the BFGoodrich gForce Comp-2 A/S 2 weeks ago, so like around 600 mi - just traveled up to Boston with them.

BFGoodrich - so much better than the DWS in handling. It is true the DWS makes the car feel like a floating boat.

When I had the BFG installed - it's like the car became planted and connected with the road again. I couldn't believe how much of a negative difference the DWS tires had on the car.
Car really is so much better, much flatter, handling and braking are most notable differences. It's been raining a lot the past week, and the car feels really planted and plenty of confidence in the wet, even on windy roads.

I've heard the DWS06 is an improvement, but I did a lot of reading on reviews and research, and feedback is still similar that it still feels weak on the sidewalls for turn in's. So I took a chance with the BFGoodrich, since I had a set before on my BMW and loved the handling.

My only downside I've found so far, but I'm not sure if it's isolated to an alignment, bearing, or road issue - is that they are sometimes loud. Gives off a bit of a droning noise on some surfaces - but I'm not sure if I'm just hyper sensitive right now due to the new tires and a whole new feeling to the car.

Overall, you will not be disappointed, especially for the price point on the BFGoodrich - I am definitely happy with the performance and feel of it for being an All-Season tire.


btw - BFGoodrich is made by Michelin, not Continental. So you will have similar tech and R&D as the Michelin's PSS, AS3+ etc.

[S4audi15]

I've been looking at my next set of tires and these two are on the short list.
As you know, and based on Tirerack reviews, they both perform very well.
Some differences...
BFG-less expensive but lower mileage warranty (45k), very aggressive looking tread, inferior light snow traction, big negative is that it's heavier
DWS 06-more expensive but has a 50k mileage warranty, more traditional tread design, better snow traction, DWS has long tradition as a great overall AS tire, lighter!

One reviewer claimed that this BFG tire is made by Conti.

I had the previous generation DWS (pre -06) tire and liked it a lot.

Based on all this, and if you don't mind the extra cost, I'd go with the DWS 06.

Good Luck.

Thank you for this review. I'm leaning towards the dws but I am concerned with the softness of the tire which will hinder the handling. Have you had any issues with the so called softness of the sidewall?

[S4audi15]

I had the 1st gen DWS, and just switched to the BFGoodrich gForce Comp-2 A/S 2 weeks ago, so like around 600 mi - just traveled up to Boston with them.

BFGoodrich - so much better than the DWS in handling. It is true the DWS makes the car feel like a floating boat.

When I had the BFG installed - it's like the car became planted and connected with the road again. I couldn't believe how much of a negative difference the DWS tires had on the car.
Car really is so much better, much flatter, handling and braking are most notable differences. It's been raining a lot the past week, and the car feels really planted and plenty of confidence in the wet, even on windy roads.

I've heard the DWS06 is an improvement, but I did a lot of reading on reviews and research, and feedback is still similar that it still feels weak on the sidewalls for turn in's. So I took a chance with the BFGoodrich, since I had a set before on my BMW and loved the handling.

My only downside I've found so far, but I'm not sure if it's isolated to an alignment, bearing, or road issue - is that they are sometimes loud. Gives off a bit of a droning noise on some surfaces - but I'm not sure if I'm just hyper sensitive right now due to the new tires and a whole new feeling to the car.

Overall, you will not be disappointed, especially for the price point on the BFGoodrich - I am definitely happy with the performance and feel of it for being an All-Season tire.


btw - BFGoodrich is made by Michelin, not Continental. So you will have similar tech and R&D as the Michelin's PSS, AS3+ etc.

Great review! I have heard that the dws are soft which hinders handling. The only thing that concerns me is the road noise you mentioned with the bf's.

[WJN S4]

Great review! I have heard that the dws are soft which hinders handling. The only thing that concerns me is the road noise you mentioned with the bf's.

I'm more certain it has to deal with a non-tire issue.. but it's not a deal breaker at all.

[mojangles69]

DWS 06!

I have had several Conti DWS sets over the years and I can honestly tell you the new DWS 06's are an improvement in every way.

Sidewall is more firm and not soft like they previous gens.
Handle and grip very well, especially for A/S tires.
Great traction in dry and wet.
NOT loud and very quiet. I've put about 4k miles on them so far.
50k mile tread warranty is BONUS.

All in, spent a little over $900 for the entire set, road hazard warranty, installation and everything. Discount Tire FTW!!

[ENV²]

I would do a winter set and summer set.

Summer- Michelin PSS

Winter: Vredestein Wintracs or Dunlop Wintersports.

[4wheelpilot]

Thank you for this review. I'm leaning towards the dws but I am concerned with the softness of the tire which will hinder the handling. Have you had any issues with the so called softness of the sidewall?

I rode on the DWS-not the DWS 06-in my Maxima through some harsh winters here in SE Pennsylvania. They were a very good tire.
I have not ridden on the newer and current DWS 06.
If you will have only one set of rims and tires, the DWS 06 is a safer bet for winter driving.

The reviews on the BFG are very impressive, but the extra weight and lower ratings for snow is a deal breaker for me in this part of the country.
Even though we have quattro, the extra margin of winter driving safety the DWS 06 provides compared to the BFG g force comp A/S is something to think about.

Also, some owners of the DWS 06 have said that the sidewalls are dual ply and provide better turn in than the one ply DWS.
But the BFG may still have a better steering response to steering inputs...I personally don't know.

Best of luck.

WJN S4...so the BFG is made by Michelin instead of Conti. Even better.

[S4audi15]

So I put on my continental dws06 the other day and I'm not sure if I like them. The tires are quiet and handle bumps better than the original tires on the car but at high speed maneuvering on highway the car sways and feels more like a Lincoln than an Audi s4. Anybody else feel this way about this tire? I don't know if I have to wait till 500 miles to break in I'm already at 300-350 im debating on returning tires but will stick it out a little longer and see if there's improvement. The steering input is much worse with these tires is it because they are all season vs summer tires or do they just suck? Lol


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[S4audi15]

I had the 1st gen DWS, and just switched to the BFGoodrich gForce Comp-2 A/S 2 weeks ago, so like around 600 mi - just traveled up to Boston with them.

BFGoodrich - so much better than the DWS in handling. It is true the DWS makes the car feel like a floating boat.

When I had the BFG installed - it's like the car became planted and connected with the road again. I couldn't believe how much of a negative difference the DWS tires had on the car.
Car really is so much better, much flatter, handling and braking are most notable differences. It's been raining a lot the past week, and the car feels really planted and plenty of confidence in the wet, even on windy roads.

I've heard the DWS06 is an improvement, but I did a lot of reading on reviews and research, and feedback is still similar that it still feels weak on the sidewalls for turn in's. So I took a chance with the BFGoodrich, since I had a set before on my BMW and loved the handling.

My only downside I've found so far, but I'm not sure if it's isolated to an alignment, bearing, or road issue - is that they are sometimes loud. Gives off a bit of a droning noise on some surfaces - but I'm not sure if I'm just hyper sensitive right now due to the new tires and a whole new feeling to the car.

Overall, you will not be disappointed, especially for the price point on the BFGoodrich - I am definitely happy with the performance and feel of it for being an All-Season tire.


btw - BFGoodrich is made by Michelin, not Continental. So you will have similar tech and R&D as the Michelin's PSS, AS3+ etc.

Man I think I should have listened to you.. I'm probably going to try and exchange my tires on tire rack if possible cause these dws06 really do make the car feel like a floating boat! You described it perfectly the cAr doesn't feel like it's connected to the road!

[vwblackb5]

Dedicated Summers: OEM Contis until they wear out then PSS
Dedicated Winters: Blizzak WS80s or Dunlop Wintersport 3D's

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[turbophreak]

Have to agree with S4audi15 on everything said above. They really do take bumps better, are very quiet and have a great amount of grip but they are a little soft on turn-in. They're not horrible just obviously not as good as stiffer tires. I just had my DWS06s put on yesterday, coming from Dunlop Sport Maxx GTs. Going give it some more time because the benefits of the tire (on paper at least) should be an overall improvement. The treadwear, noise, wet/snow grip, and comfort are still some of the best you can get in an all season. Might have to suck it up and trade off some handling for the other stuff.

[Johnnycash]

the supposedly "sportiest" all season [oxymoron i know] is the michelin as3, but they suck in the snow...

eagle f1 assymetric are supposed to be close in performance and better in winter stuff.

i recently put the brand new michelin as3+ on my car and they are quiet and perform well for an all season.

i do however run a dedicated winter setup [nokian r2s] and nothing will compare to those in the elements, but they do sacrifice performance when the roads arent icky, but boy oh boy are they fun when it snows!

in summation: michelin as3+ might be worth a look depending on where you live and how much you drive.

[B8Addict]

the supposedly "sportiest" all season [oxymoron i know] is the michelin as3, but they suck in the snow...

eagle f1 assymetric are supposed to be close in performance and better in winter stuff.

i recently put the brand new michelin as3+ on my car and they are quiet and perform well for an all season.

i do however run a dedicated winter setup [nokian r2s] and nothing will compare to those in the elements, but they do sacrifice performance when the roads arent icky, but boy oh boy are they fun when it snows!

in summation: michelin as3+ might be worth a look depending on where you live and how much you drive.

+1 for michelin pilot sport as3+. Have had them on for 3 weeks and I am shocked with how much grip the car has for an all season tire. Feels like a dedicated summer tire.

[Sundowner]

I have AS3's on my S4 and DWS06's on my wife's A3. both are great all season tires.
Can't recommend BFG's. I've never had a set of their tires in the past 25 years that didn't suck.

[S4audi15]

Have to agree with S4audi15 on everything said above. They really do take bumps better, are very quiet and have a great amount of grip but they are a little soft on turn-in. They're not horrible just obviously not as good as stiffer tires. I just had my DWS06s put on yesterday, coming from Dunlop Sport Maxx GTs. Going give it some more time because the benefits of the tire (on paper at least) should be an overall improvement. The treadwear, noise, wet/snow grip, and comfort are still some of the best you can get in an all season. Might have to suck it up and trade off some handling for the other stuff.

Ya might have to suck it up I guess I'll get more used to them and as the tires wear the steering input/handling should actually get a little better. Would just be such a pain in the ass to exchange tires (if tire rack would even allow that) and I'm sure these will be pretty good in the snow up here (NJ) in the winter months

[S4audi15]

the supposedly "sportiest" all season [oxymoron i know] is the michelin as3, but they suck in the snow...

eagle f1 assymetric are supposed to be close in performance and better in winter stuff.

i recently put the brand new michelin as3+ on my car and they are quiet and perform well for an all season.

i do however run a dedicated winter setup [nokian r2s] and nothing will compare to those in the elements, but they do sacrifice performance when the roads arent icky, but boy oh boy are they fun when it snows!

in summation: michelin as3+ might be worth a look depending on where you live and how much you drive.

Ya the Michelins sound like a tire that would fit my everyday driving until those winter months hit us in NJ I fear the Michelins won't be up to par in that field. The summer tires were not good at all last winter hence why I went with dws06 due to their good reviews in snow driving.

[4wheelpilot]

Ya the Michelins sound like a tire that would fit my everyday driving until those winter months hit us in NJ I fear the Michelins won't be up to par in that field. The summer tires were not good at all last winter hence why I went with dws06 due to their good reviews in snow driving.

Call tirerack and mention your concerns. Hopefully they can help.
It is also a possibility that changing (increasing) tire pressure will improve feel.
Bottom line is that all season tires are a compromise one way or the other.
It becomes a matter of which compromises you are willing to live with.
Problem is that in our area, having only one set of tires is frustrating.
Must have tires with snow capability BUT also want sticky, responsive tires for the rest of the year.
You're (our) dilemma is even more complicated since your decision is being based right now...moderate temps (and it's hard even thinking about snow).
When the snow falls and the roads are icy, what would you do with a poor handling all season tire then?
If we lived in an area that got more than 3-4 feet of snow every winter, then we would (almost) have to have two sets of tires to have both performance and safety.
But living here makes it a very difficult financial (and storage) decision.
Best of luck.

[S4audi15]

Call tirerack and mention your concerns. Hopefully they can help.
It is also a possibility that changing (increasing) tire pressure will improve feel.
Bottom line is that all season tires are a compromise one way or the other.
It becomes a matter of which compromises you are willing to live with.
Problem is that in our area, having only one set of tires is frustrating.
Must have tires with snow capability BUT also want sticky, responsive tires for the rest of the year.
You're (our) dilemma is even more complicated since your decision is being based right now...moderate temps (and it's hard even thinking about snow).
When the snow falls and the roads are icy, what would you do with a poor handling all season tire then?
If we lived in an area that got more than 3-4 feet of snow every winter, then we would (almost) have to have two sets of tires to have both performance and safety.
But living here makes it a very difficult financial (and storage) decision.
Best of luck.

You bring up very good points. So, I've had the tires on for about 600 miles and either they have improved or I got used to them. Overall, definitely a compromise going from summer tires to all seasons but all in all not bad. I'm willing to stick with these tires as I know I will have to drive the car in snow at least 3-5 times in the winter. I got an awd car because I needed something I could drive in the snow so I might as well have the right tires on it. I know I know I should probably have a set of winters but I think these will suffice.

[yo vanilla]

I realize this is an old thread, but my brief .02 since I've had several of these tires:

I started with Conti DW (yes I know, not DWS) on my b8 a4, and after a five or so thousand miles they became extremely loud at high speeds. Pretty extreme cupping and feathering on the outer tread blocks. I called the Audi service manager to ask, just to see, if he'd ever heard of that kind of wear so soon with similar cars. Alignment was on, btw. He actually said YES, they had seen more Audi's than they could count with wear issues using the DW, and they stopped recommending the tire to Audi customers. And people were constantly coming in asking for the tire and they'd have to talk em out of it. Although they didn't have a solid explanation on the DW, they said the cars don't take well to tires with big tread blocks in general but definitely the case with DW's on Audi cars. The DWS is a different tire, but has pretty big blocks on the outer. Conti had been my go-to brand for many many years too and I ran DWS's on my Subaru's for several years.

So I replaced with Michelin A/S3+. I absolutely love the tire. I will probably never buy a real summer tire again based on this purchase. There's no reason to; given the grip level, if you need more for the street let's not kid ourselves, you're driving like an asshole. Responsive tire, still very quiet, kind of firmish but a very good ride. Summer tires always, always get noisy at least halfway through their life. But I traded the car for an Allroad not terribly long after. The A/S3+'s had about 5K on them at the time and were worn perfectly.

Brings me to the BFG comp 2's, which were installed on my Allroad when I bought it a month ago. I think the tire is too firm; coming from the A/S3+ it's most definitely not as good (although it is in a lower price point). I am worried that the large tread blocks are going to start failboating soon and I'm planning to replace them with A/S3+'s soon.

[Starman17]

Has anyone tried out the Pirelli PZero Nero All Season?

My last car I had the 1st gen DWS, very floaty. Then had the A/S 3+ for a bit but snow/ice traction was pretty bad.

[A4orce84]

Hello Everyone,

Bumping this thread back up as I am in the same position:
Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06s vs. BFGoodrich G-Force Comp 2 A/S


Does anyone have any new feedback / thoughts / opinions to add to this subject? TIA.


Thanks,
Asif

[hilmar2k]

I had the BFGoodrich's on my TT and my A6. They are an awesome tire. No issues in the snow at all with AWD. Extremely good in the rain as well. Currently have Toyo Proxes 4 Plus, and they are okay, but nowhere near as good as the BFG's.

[jpl500]

I have the BFG. Good tires but when they wear (after about 5-7k miles) they are unbearably loud. It's not an alignment, bearings, or other suspension issue. They are 5x louder than the snow tires I took off in the spring. They will drive you crazy.

[doughboy17]

+1 for michelin pilot sport as3+.

Went from Kuhmo Ecsta back in the day to General AS-03 and it turned my A4 into a Buick. Finally, they wore out and I was able to put Michelin AS3s on it. I had my Audi back and was able to slide the rear end out again around certain corners when needed (courtesy of RS4 rear sway).

Picking up my S4, it has DWS 06 and I plan to get either the Michelin AS3+s or BFGs when they wear out. The comments you read in this thread are true. The Contis have a significantly softer sidewall that you can feel in turn in and around corners but they are great in the snow. I do plan to move to the AS3+ or BFGs but know the compromise will be a firmer ride, slightly less snow traction, and more $ out of pocket. Check out the reviews on the BFGs on TireRack for Audis. There can be some problems with balancing. I had all day access to a mgr. and asst. mgr. of TireRack at an Audi Club Teen Driver Safety course and asked the asst. mgr. about any balancing issues with the BFGs and he told me that Michelins have the lowest return rate of any brand they own.

[A4orce84]

Thanks doughboy17. Do you agree that the BFGs are a bit on the loud noise after they wear in ?

[S4Tonyy]

BFG Comp 2 A/S are quite softer of a rubber compound; I would consider them almost on the summer performance side of all-seasons. If you want a better overall tire for traction and durability the DWS 06 would be ideal.

I sell quite a bit more of the DWS 06 compared to the BFG Comp 2 A/S since they perform better. With the type of climate we see in CO, DWS 06 checks most boxes for what my customers truly need.

[WJN S4]

I've had the BFG's now for 20K+ miles, and they still have plenty of treadlife left, along with grip. They held up fine in the 2 winters I've had them on for so far, although I will give the edge to DWS in winter driving.

Here are some observations with the BFG:
-Balancing: I think I'm not the only one, but these tires are a pain to keep balanced
-Flat spotting: This may or may not be related to above, but if the car sits for a while in certain conditions, the initial few miles driving them almost makes the car feel like there's a bent wheel
-Directional: Probably the biggest annoyance that I didn't think about is that they're 1 way directional, so you can only keep them on one side when rotating, vs. other tires where you can cross-rotate.
-Grip/Handling: I find them to be a great balance with keeping similar to summer tire grip on roads, while maintaining the cold weather ability - something the DWS never gave me the confidence with in 3/4 of the year.

I'm more than happy to chime in more with you or anyone else that has more questions or want more input. For the price point I've been very happy with them.
Would I get them again? Yes. Would it be my next choice? Probably would spend a few more dollars next time to get the Michelins

[Robdukes]

My buddy had the BF's and said road noise was super annoying. Especially because he is an audiophile.
I have the DWS06's. Last winter they took me through crazy snow. 2 feet on the driveway..no problem. Blizzard conditions outside..no problem.
So when it came time for new tires about a week and a half ago. I went with DWS06 again. They have a 70 dollar mail in rebate right now as well.

[doughboy17]

Thanks doughboy17. Do you agree that the BFGs are a bit on the loud noise after they wear in ?

I actually have not yet had them on a car. What I can tell you is that I am very pleased with the Michelin A/S 3s on my A4.

[SDF1]

Hello Everyone,

I'm looking to replace my DWS-06 because of feathering on the outer tread blocks. Did anyone else notice this? and anyone having these issues with the BFGs?

http://www.autos.ca/car-comparisons/...ntact-dws06/2/