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    Buying preowned 2013-2014 S6 questions

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    1) If i buy a car with say 35k on it still under factory warranty, can I add CPO coverage to it like you can with BMW through the dealer?

    2) Does someone have a picture of LED vs HID lights side by side? Most I look at don't mention LED but they have a strip of horizontal LEDs running through the midsection of the housing.

    3) How reliable? I'd like to APR flash the car and not sure how many TD1 problems this will cause?

    4) any general advice? I'm coming out of a N54 335i DD and i'd rather not live that all over again ;)

    5) are the option codes on a sticker somewhere I can cross reference with the order guide?

    thanks guys!
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    Why would you go through the trouble of CPOing the car and then tune it, thus voiding any warranty you just paid for?

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    You can't pay the Dealer to CPO the car if you buy it used from a non Audi dealer or private person. All they do when they CPO a car is add an extended warranty to the car. so all you will need to do is buy an extended warranty. When you buy a CPO car you are paying for that, about the same as the extended warranty, sometimes more and sometimes less depending on how much you shop the warranty around and what kind of coverage you buy.

    if you plan on getting the warranty I would talk to the Dealer about how mod friendly they are. The other thing I have seen happen is someone buys a used vehicle, already tuned and may or may not know it, but if the dealer finds out later after they have sold them the car or warranty they really can't turn down your claim since they added a warranty to a car that was already tuned.
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    ok, not going to be as easy as i thought... also insurance is 2x more than my corvette or 335 hmm
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    FWIW, I have a 2013 S6 with 35k on it, APR tune since 5k and I have had absolutely ZERO issues.

    I have flashed back to stock for all of my maintenance visits, also with no issues. I don't want to open that can of worms as it has been debated a lot already - but it has worked for me. Now, if something serious went wrong and they dug into things deeper, I'm sure there is risk - but that is pay to play...

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    I'm looking at a 2013 cpo with 48k mi, Estoril blue... led/innovation/cold weather ... they're at 47400 and they want my offer... what's reasonable? Cpo is out 10/2018, I can write a check for it or finance doesn't seem that helps negotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pat View Post
    FWIW, I have a 2013 S6 with 35k on it, APR tune since 5k and I have had absolutely ZERO issues.

    I have flashed back to stock for all of my maintenance visits, also with no issues. I don't want to open that can of worms as it has been debated a lot already - but it has worked for me. Now, if something serious went wrong and they dug into things deeper, I'm sure there is risk - but that is pay to play...
    Quick question regarding this. Any of your services that you did flash back to stock ECU did the dealer plug your car in for any reason?
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    I did have a TSB applied for harsh downshifts - but I am not sure if it is standard for them to plug in the car for normal 15k/25k/35k maintenance. I was told that it was, but, someone else on here would know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pat View Post
    I did have a TSB applied for harsh downshifts - but I am not sure if it is standard for them to plug in the car for normal 15k/25k/35k maintenance. I was told that it was, but, someone else on here would know better.
    So they did plug in for that TSB and they weren't able to detect the tune right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djpeaksd View Post
    So they did plug in for that TSB and they weren't able to detect the tune right?
    To the best of my knowledge, that is correct. I suppose I could be flagged without them telling me about it - but that would seem strange, you would think they would mention or ask about a tune if the system marks you TD1.

    I've also heard stories of the opposite - perhaps it depends on which model year you have - but so far after 3 dealer visits I do not believe I am flagged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pat View Post
    To the best of my knowledge, that is correct. I suppose I could be flagged without them telling me about it - but that would seem strange, you would think they would mention or ask about a tune if the system marks you TD1.

    I've also heard stories of the opposite - perhaps it depends on which model year you have - but so far after 3 dealer visits I do not believe I am flagged.
    Awesome thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djpeaksd View Post
    So they did plug in for that TSB and they weren't able to detect the tune right?
    They ran a spec actual (specactuals?) scan on my car and it came back clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostFrenzy View Post
    I'm looking at a 2013 cpo with 48k mi, Estoril blue... led/innovation/cold weather ... they're at 47400 and they want my offer... what's reasonable? Cpo is out 10/2018, I can write a check for it or finance doesn't seem that helps negotation.

    I saw that type of pricing last year, I'd offer $43,500.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    They ran a spec actual (specactuals?) scan on my car and it came back clean.
    And you are a 2016 too huh? Thats great news as I have a 16 S7 and going with APR but heard even if you flash back to stock that they could potentially detect a tune on a 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AP1418 View Post
    Why would you go through the trouble of CPOing the car and then tune it, thus voiding any warranty you just paid for?
    That's not how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djpeaksd View Post
    And you are a 2016 too huh? Thats great news as I have a 16 S7 and going with APR but heard even if you flash back to stock that they could potentially detect a tune on a 2016.
    This is just my experience, my 16 S6 was tuned and it came back clean after I took the tune out.
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    Friend of mine checked the auction, 25-45k miles are pulling 45-50k$ I'm thinking about offering 45 take it or leave it

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    Been watching CPO S6 on the market for a few months now, under 40k miles 46-48 I think is a good deal, obviously depending on options. See plenty asking 51-54, who knows what they actually end up going for but I think mid high 40's is where I would feel comfortable

    And the whole tuned voidi g warranty, yes it could impact things if you have a drive train issue but hundreds of other parts still can go wrong and are covered with TD1 regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post
    That's not how it works.
    Curious how it does work then? Must be different for Audi. In my experience with BMW, you have the option of paying BMW to CPO your car and receiving the extended warranty. However, if you were to tune it or make other modifications and have to submit a claim under the CPO warranty, they wouldn't honor it if the modification were shown to have caused the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostFrenzy View Post
    1) If i buy a car with say 35k on it still under factory warranty, can I add CPO coverage to it like you can with BMW through the dealer?

    2) Does someone have a picture of LED vs HID lights side by side? Most I look at don't mention LED but they have a strip of horizontal LEDs running through the midsection of the housing.

    3) How reliable? I'd like to APR flash the car and not sure how many TD1 problems this will cause?

    4) any general advice? I'm coming out of a N54 335i DD and i'd rather not live that all over again ;)

    5) are the option codes on a sticker somewhere I can cross reference with the order guide?

    thanks guys!
    1) No.

    2) Sorry, no. Get one with the LEDs if you can - they're worth searching for.

    3) Mine's been rock-solid, and in a few years of monitoring various boards, it seems to be a reliable car.

    4) See: 3)

    5) I'm sure there are, but I don't know where you could get those.

    AND: It's a great car - smokin' quick/fast, really comfortable, smooth and refined. If you want "raw", look elsewhere, or tune to your heart's content....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    1) No.

    2) Sorry, no. Get one with the LEDs if you can - they're worth searching for.

    3) Mine's been rock-solid, and in a few years of monitoring various boards, it seems to be a reliable car.

    4) See: 3)

    5) I'm sure there are, but I don't know where you could get those.

    AND: It's a great car - smokin' quick/fast, really comfortable, smooth and refined. If you want "raw", look elsewhere, or tune to your heart's content....
    "raw" is probably off the table, I thoroughly enjoy my 335i when it works and it's the same performance as a stock S6 with the current modifications. I don't enjoy the loudness and civility drawbacks of my corvette and a C7 corvette while it has a better interior, i'm 6'3 and my gf is 6'2 we simply don't fit in the new ones very well.

    What i'm trying to do is supercede stock corvette performance (118-120 traps) with a car I enjoy and can live with as much as my 335. The more I look at the 2016 s6's I like them much more, but the depreciation curve is too steep to buy a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostFrenzy View Post
    ...What i'm trying to do is supercede stock corvette performance (118-120 traps) with a car I enjoy and can live with as much as my 335...
    You'll have to tune the S6 to get that type of trap speed, but you seem to realize that already. I will say that even stock, with the AWD launch (not using L/C), there ain't much out there that can keep up in a stoplight drag...

    Grand Rapids, eh? Parents lived there for 20 years. Ever been to "The Green Well"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    You'll have to tune the S6 to get that type of trap speed, but you seem to realize that already. I will say that even stock, with the AWD launch (not using L/C), there ain't much out there that can keep up in a stoplight drag...

    Grand Rapids, eh? Parents lived there for 20 years. Ever been to "The Green Well"?
    the car i'm looking at is in your neck of the woods... http://www.orlandparkaudi.com/certif...0d6fcdf2b8.htm

    notice all the service on the carfax already... a bit concerning.

    parking downtown GR is terrible, i try not to go down there very often ;)
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    Man.. lots of tire services lol.

    Seems like this car was driven fairly hard. 2 brake jobs, wheel hubs, and shocks in 48K miles. At least this car won't have carbon build up ;) On a side note at least it seems that the main services were completed (DSG flush, Brake Fluid, Brakes, Tires, Sunroof lube, etc).

    Got 43K on my '13 and its a lovely ride. Just watch out for the Estoril Blue... impossible to keep clean and it seems to swirl just by looking at it. LEDs are a must IMO (but I'm biased as I have them on mine).

    Good Luck with your search!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostFrenzy View Post
    ...parking downtown GR is terrible, i try not to go down there very often ;)
    Well you're in luck, then, because Green Well isn't downtown, and I've been able to park right out front every time I've been there!!...

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-green-well-grand-rapids

    Good luck with your search...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoostFrenzy View Post
    I'm looking at a 2013 cpo with 48k mi, Estoril blue... led/innovation/cold weather ... they're at 47400 and they want my offer... what's reasonable? Cpo is out 10/2018, I can write a check for it or finance doesn't seem that helps negotation.
    i got a 2013 in Estoril earlier this week with 22k miles on it full CPO for 49k. LED, Innovation, cold weather. I also had them do a full paint correction at my detailer, full tints and new tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    Well you're in luck, then, because Green Well isn't downtown, and I've been able to park right out front every time I've been there!!...

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-green-well-grand-rapids

    Good luck with your search...

    (Also replied to your PM)
    ah! thats 4 mins from my work, i'm quite the suburb dweller.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black3.2 View Post
    i got a 2013 in Estoril earlier this week with 22k miles on it full CPO for 49k. LED, Innovation, cold weather. I also had them do a full paint correction at my detailer, full tints and new tires.
    that sounds like a very good deal, I will have to keep searching it sounds.
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