Instructions: External Video Input to MMI Screen/Phone Mirroring

[doug97gxe]

What happens when you press the "FUN MODE" button????????????

porn

[nugalonious]

2013 s4. I'm looking to do the opposite of this and mirror my mmi screen to a tablet. Would be nice to have a "window" (app) with the mmi stuff in it and I can use the tablet screen for Waze and such. That 800x600 mmi resolution is too crappy to continue to use.

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[doug97gxe]

2013 s4. I'm looking to do the opposite of this and mirror my mmi screen to a tablet. Would be nice to have a "window" (app) with the mmi stuff in it and I can use the tablet screen for Waze and such. That 800x600 mmi resolution is too crappy to continue to use.

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not gonna happen .. all the video feeds are into the MMI.. you would have to have some knowledge of electronics to get a video feed out.. maybe tap into the monitor itself

[nugalonious]

not gonna happen .. all the video feeds are into the MMI.. you would have to have some knowledge of electronics to get a video feed out.. maybe tap into the monitor itself

Hmm I will look into that. Maybe the lvds connection can be split to the tablet. Really hate the worthless built-in screen makes me think of 1999 when I look at it.

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[RudyH]

why not just skip all the cables entirely and go with wireless mirroring...?

You still need everything from the Lightning to HDMI adapter back unfortunately. Wireless mirroring is mostly all done through digital so you need to convert to RCA. Also that only covers sound so you need the audio piece still, so yes you need all the wires to get this to work.


I kinda want to try this for the AMI -> anyone know if this works?

These guys had a full option as well, but not as cheap as it is in UK Pounds I believe : http://www.xcarlink.co.uk/home.php?cat=4

[stereojorge]

You ungrateful M'effers LOL.

I just spit out my drink

[sonic32]

So the AMI RCA cable only works with the 3G+ I assume?


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[jzinckgra]

I have non nav mmi. I presume even if I mirror from my Android, Google maps for instance would look pretty bad on mmi due to lower res? I'm regretting not getting nav again as the 480x240 res is pretty unappealing visually.

[ReDeViL]

So the AMI RCA cable only works with the 3G+ I assume?


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is this confirmed? would like to know the ans to this as well since i'm on 3G only.

[omegis83]

You still need everything from the Lightning to HDMI adapter back unfortunately. Wireless mirroring is mostly all done through digital so you need to convert to RCA. Also that only covers sound so you need the audio piece still, so yes you need all the wires to get this to work.


I kinda want to try this for the AMI -> anyone know if this works?

These guys had a full option as well, but not as cheap as it is in UK Pounds I believe : http://www.xcarlink.co.uk/home.php?cat=4

I was able to hook up my Apple TV to my MMI. Process was Apple TV > HDMI > HDMI/RCA converter > RCA > RCA AMI cable. This gave me audio and video.

Two issues that bugged me though. I could AirPlay mirror my iPhone for Apple maps but it would stop mirroring if I locked my iPhone. Still need to tinker with this.

Second issue was hiding all the wires. HDMI/RCA converter has a micro USB port for power and I purchased a compact Energizer DC to AC inverter to also power the Apple TV.

is this confirmed? would like to know the ans to this as well since i'm on 3G only.

I don't recall it working on my old 2012 Q5 with 3G but it definitely works on my 3G+ 2013 S4.

[adro830]

I have tryed this on my b8 just for kicks and to see if it would work, but I had no luck. Will post pictures of how I did it, it's almost the same process and I'm using an android tablet Instead. Maybe I'm missing something.


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[ReDeViL]

ami to rca definitely doesnt work on my B8 S4, so i am guessing only 3G+ supports this.......damn.....

[Jflow23]

Thanks for the tips, my install below.


Routed the lightning extension cable into the ashtray. There is a small cover that pops out that allows the cable to pass through.


All of the equipment is the center console...originally was going for AppleTV but didn't see the value, so repurposed for iPhone mirroring. Audi makes it easy with another pop off cover.


My 2014 came with this hole in the glove box...so I used it route the RCA's from the center console to the glove box.


If I did it all over, I would tap the lighter in the ashtray and tuck everything in the dash...and maybe drop an iPhone dock in the ashtray.

[6V0N1N]

Just wondering if anyone knows about getting this up and running using a chromecast device plugging into the hdmi port. I don't have hdmi output on my phone...plus the idea of having a wireless connection is interesting. Thanks.

[whiped]

Just wondering if anyone knows about getting this up and running using a chromecast device plugging into the hdmi port. I don't have hdmi output on my phone...plus the idea of having a wireless connection is interesting. Thanks.

I looked into it, the chromecast will still need a wifi-connection with internet to work.

So you could use it if you had wifi in your car or setup a hotspot with your phone.

Honestly, you are better off looking into other solutions.

[6V0N1N]

http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-Wirel...nal+drive+wifi

Well this is what I was thinking. I have this already and maybe I can use it as a wifi hot spot? Would be great if it worked though, but I haven't gotten around getting all the other cables yet. Just food for though.

[DBL R]

I was able to hook up my Apple TV to my MMI. Process was Apple TV > HDMI > HDMI/RCA converter > RCA > RCA AMI cable. This gave me audio and video.

Two issues that bugged me though. I could AirPlay mirror my iPhone for Apple maps but it would stop mirroring if I locked my iPhone. Still need to tinker with this.

Second issue was hiding all the wires. HDMI/RCA converter has a micro USB port for power and I purchased a compact Energizer DC to AC inverter to also power the Apple TV.





I don't recall it working on my old 2012 Q5 with 3G but it definitely works on my 3G+ 2013 S4.

Are you able to use it while the vehicle is moving, without the vagcom hack?

[omegis83]

Are you able to use it while the vehicle is moving, without the vagcom hack?

If I recall, it required the VAGCOM hack to work in motion

[N_Ortiz_S4]

Hey guys, I wanted to do this to my car but I don't see the "External Video Input" option under my source menu.



Do I have to enable this in the hidden (green) menu? Would this option come up upon connecting the A/V cable in glovebox?


Or does the 3G MMI just doesn't have this capability?
Thanks!

[whiped]

I believe it only comes up after you connect the cable.

[AKPS4]

Has anyone been able to have this work on a '10-'12 S4?

[N_Ortiz_S4]

Has anyone been able to have this work on a '10-'12 S4?

Basically same question I'm asking, I want to do this on my car but I'm unsure if I even have "External Vido Input" available on my MMI.
While researching other stuff I came across this post where it say B8's have "MMI HIGH 3G" whatever that entitles.
Source here: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...1#post11124835
Post #86 "You have MMI 3G HIGH on 2012 B8"

Additional info regarding my situation:
2010 B8 S4
Hidden "green" menu and VIM (Video In Motion) already enabled via VagCom.
Currently using the Tune2Air adapter for music streaming via Bluetooth, and was able to enable the additional "External Audio Input" thru Hidden Menu to be available ASIDE from "iPod" in the Media->Source list.
And I messed around a little trying to find something in there to enable "External VIDEO Input" but no luck.
So the question remains: When/How do I get that option to be available or IF it even is available on MMI High 3G.

[Gunnark100]

So the question remains: When/How do I get that option to be available or IF it even is available on MMI High 3G.

Cant answer 100%, never know what some hackers are done somewhere. But "AV input factory style" on the screen for 3G High(soft Hnav) is only possible if car has factory tv tuner installed, if not, we need mmi head unit with green FBAS plug(not fully sure if all 3G high units have this plug) behind mmi headunit + other interface to create av input, not so easy like with 3G+(soft HN+) where software gives more features via AMI plug, BT and with sdcard etc.

One example to way in:

http://webgoommy.com/AudiMMI.pdf

[N_Ortiz_S4]

Cant answer 100%, never know what some hackers are done somewhere. But "AV input factory style" on the screen for 3G High(soft Hnav) is only possible if car has factory tv tuner installed, if not, we need mmi head unit with green FBAS plug(not fully sure if all 3G high units have this plug) behind mmi headunit + other interface to create av input, not so easy like with 3G+(soft HN+) where software gives more features via AMI plug, BT and with sdcard etc.

One example to way in:

http://webgoommy.com/AudiMMI.pdf

First of all, thanks for the reply, very informative response and link.
And... Well this just got more complicated and may have to scrap the idea.
I do not have factory TV Tuner on my car, so:
1st.- I would have to take apart my MMI head unit to check for that FBAS plug.
2nd.- I would need that "Second Interface" (MOST Audio/Video interface) which I already searched for on EBay (for the US) and there's none available.
3rd.- The install just went from a one-beer job to a whole 6-pack job (as Longwolf initially put it 😆)
4th.- Might as well buy the whole 12-pack bcuz you never know what other problems one may run into when attempting this new method, which is quite more complex and directions are not 100% clear for me. May have to go back and read over them again, but it's just seems like too much work for me at this time.

I mainly wanted to do this to be able to mirror my Google Maps/Waze due to the fact that the MMI maps are outdated; which I've done some research and you can update the MMI software +Map Database but you still don't have the Waze "Alerts" integrated.
Total Bummer...

[Gunnark100]

First of all, thanks for the reply, very informative response and link.
And... Well this just got more complicated and may have to scrap the idea.
I do not have factory TV Tuner on my car, so:
1st.- I would have to take apart my MMI head unit to check for that FBAS plug.
2nd.- I would need that "Second Interface" (MOST Audio/Video interface) which I already searched for on EBay (for the US) and there's none available.
3rd.- The install just went from a one-beer job to a whole 6-pack job (as Longwolf initially put it 😆)
4th.- Might as well buy the whole 12-pack bcuz you never know what other problems one may run into when attempting this new method, which is quite more complex and directions are not 100% clear for me. May have to go back and read over them again, but it's just seems like too much work for me at this time.

I mainly wanted to do this to be able to mirror my Google Maps/Waze due to the fact that the MMI maps are outdated; which I've done some research and you can update the MMI software +Map Database but you still don't have the Waze "Alerts" integrated.
Total Bummer...

1. No, if you have cable you can check your part number and google will give you answer(i just covered my a..., as i dont want to give out fact that all 3G high units have that plug, in logic they should)
For example this link, down below is remark for 2G to have fbas, so all 3G HDD should have it as standard!
http://vnsmedia.shoper.pl/en_GB/p/AU...-SIMULATOR/124
If you have radio removal tools its 2 minutes job to take it out and check.

2.No idea
Huge thread covering xcarlink same company as one link ive posted before.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...cks-and-issues!
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-link-Miracast
3 and 4. I would say, its more less plug and play, just a bit work removing things etc...But its personal thing!

Yes, nothing new you get with new soft and map(just more 3D covered area and new routes-eu info)

[infinkc]

Was looking for other options and came across this cable. You do not need the extra USB power for this one. All the reviews are very positive for use with the apple lightning converter.
https://www.amazon.com/iSimple-ISHD0...6Y1DGD15T679HK

This really simplifies the connection, and doesnt take up as much space.
You would need the apple lightning to hdmi, the above cable, the mmi to rca cable, lightning cable, hdmi to hdmi and a single usb power.

I am going to try and modify the mmi cable to output 5v also, so it will just be one plug in. Will keep you guys updated.



Also there is this one, but requires power.
https://www.amazon.com/Crux-Composit...ords=crux+hdmi

This one would save you the hdmi to hdmi cable, and you would need a dual input usb.

[tcristi]

Was looking for other options and came across this cable. You do not need the extra USB power for this one. All the reviews are very positive for use with the apple lightning converter.
https://www.amazon.com/iSimple-ISHD0...6Y1DGD15T679HK

This really simplifies the connection, and doesnt take up as much space.
You would need the apple lightning to hdmi, the above cable, the mmi to rca cable, lightning cable, hdmi to hdmi and a single usb power.

I am going to try and modify the mmi cable to output 5v also, so it will just be one plug in. Will keep you guys updated.



Also there is this one, but requires power.
https://www.amazon.com/Crux-Composit...ords=crux+hdmi

This one would save you the hdmi to hdmi cable, and you would need a dual input usb.

I purchased that exact one as well as the one OP had. I had high hopes but comparing both, the one without the power had a slightly grainier picture. The powered one was much more colorful and cleaner.


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[gab696]

I am not sure about the cable AMI 3RCA purchased on ebay.
When I plug this cable in the car AMI connector, Should the menu on the MMI indicate something even if no video source is connected.
Or only If a video signal is detected ?
I got AMI Not connected on MMI...

[Longwolf]

Just checked this on my car. With the AMI-RCA adapter plugged in, you should see the option in the MMI Media Source menu as External Video Input. If you choose it with it not plugged in to your phone, it will be a blue screen or black screen.

[G_S_4]

For those that do have it working, is anyone getting any wavy lines and/or ground noise? The wavy lines are not that noticeable but the ground noise is.

[m1_s4]

Thought I would update this after playing with my configuration. For those Android users out there, I used the screen beam mini to go completely wireless. This device does not need wifi to connect. It transfers audio and video clearly. Works flawlessly with my Samsung Note 5.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[RamW24]

Thought I would update this after playing with my configuration. For those Android users out there, I used the screen beam mini to go completely wireless. This device does not need wifi to connect. It transfers audio and video clearly. Works flawlessly with my Samsung Note 5.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a S7 edge and would love to get this working wirelessly. What all do you need along with the screen beam mini?

[eightamrock]

Can you cut out a few of the steps/converts by using this?

https://www.amazon.com/iSimple-ISHD0.../dp/B00LUX1F5K

[Halexbouchard]

Do you guys think that we can plug a videogame console ?

[dcchristopher]

Big thanks to Longwolf for the write-up and to Blackfunk for the hilarious (and very appropriate) post! I just put my wire-jumble setup together and it works.
Cons (and I don't mean to be an ungrateful MFer!)
- picture is a little fuzzy (could be part-MMI, part-converter to blame)
- picture goes black (and I assume audio cuts out) when phone is locked (quite expectedly, I guess)
Pros:
- I can put the phone away and just control everything via Siri on the Apple Watch ... she's a lot easier to deal with than Audi's voice recognition

I just need to find an app or something to keep the screen on at all times ... and then convince myself that doing that is worth it ...

Damn, I forgot to buy beer before tackling this ...

[EIAlfonso]

Sub

[dcchristopher]

Finally got some time to hide the cables. That was a whipathon. I followed a guide on OCarbon about removing the center console (http://blog.ocarbon.com/2010/06/b8-a...-removal-guide). Then I also had to remove the glovebox. Apparently if you have the "storage" insert, it hides one of the screws. You have to use a small flathead to release two clips at the bottom of each side (http://workshop-manuals.com/audi/a4_...ling_glove_box). Then I also had to remove what looked like the airbag gas propellant "module" which sits right below and behind the glove box. So, other lessons learned: 6-foot cables (three of them in this case) barely make it from the center console to the glove box. The cables are taut to the point that a little body roll may cause them to pop off. Final word to the wise: if you get an Emergency Parking Brake failure, just flick the EPB switch in both directions. Apparently disconnecting the cable messes with the computer's mind and it needs to remember which way is up. *shrug*

Using Google Maps and watching Netflix is nyyyyyyyssssshhhhe!

[gab5]

Thought I would update this after playing with my configuration. For those Android users out there, I used the screen beam mini to go completely wireless. This device does not need wifi to connect. It transfers audio and video clearly. Works flawlessly with my Samsung Note 5.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a S7 edge and would love to get this working wirelessly. What all do you need along with the screen beam mini?

Did this get answered? I assume you would still need everything from the converter back?

[dcchristopher]

If I did this all over again (and, knowing me, I will), I'd go the Android route: Screen Beam Mini2, HDMI-2-RCA, _ONE_ USB extension cable to the glovebox, short USB mini + micro combo cable (think "splitter" but don't use that in your search), and that's it! I like the small form factor of my iPhone SE so I'd have to get a Sony X Compact or Z5 Compact (both updateable to Nougat). I can then get the wedge mounts that hang to the side of the optical drive (magnetic mounts available). Routing three cables and then connecting to a cable that comes out of the ashtray or rear console is starting to annoy me. Also, my only decent integration app option is iCarMode, which works well (e.g., Waze + iHeartRadio) but I wish we could have CarPlay as an app just like Android Auto is stand-alone (and now knows to auto-launch when it connects to your car's Bluetooth and listens to OK Google commands). Another annoyance: when "docked", the Apple Music app sets its volume to "externally controlled" (so, somewhere in the middle) whereas the other apps (Waze, etc) are at full-volume. Weird how they have separate volume settings like that that you can't control.

Gab5, I hope this helps answer your question. Yes, the rest of the hardware is the same but if you follow my suggestion, you are down to just one wire. The power draw for the two devices is minimal.

UPDATE: I could also simplify my install by only needing to remove the shifter trim and ashtray and routing the wire behind the head unit. Then, instead of removing the entire glovebox, just remove the insert and fishtape the wire from behind the electronics to the cutout of the glovebox that the insert occupies. A fiber optic camera might help.

[briceportier]

Hi guys

I recently tried to install a video interface + android box (limited to kitkat though) purchased on aliexpress...
Turned out to be a bit of a nightmare because of the lack of a proper wire harness which meant I had to "tap" into cables.
I finally got everything to work with waze, radardroid, google maps, spotify and everything I through at it...
Also installed a 4G hotspot which meant that data speed was awesome.
I then unplugged everything to fit the glovebox and then major bummer, the android box never started again...
I'm wondering if I could not just bypass it (i.e. trash it) and use an rca to hdmi cable + android hdmi stick or box + mimic instead.
Mimic would sit between the touch screen (already installed) and the android stick to control it the same way the way the original set-up was meant to work.
Anyone who's gone down this road yet?

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