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    Instructions: External Video Input to MMI Screen/Phone Mirroring

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    **UPDATED**
    Thanks everyone for feedback to this post, I have updated these instructions to reflect the suggestions below and the requests for additional clarification.

    Instructions: External Video Input to MMI Screen/Phone Mirroring

    With a few simple parts, you can plug and play your phone (or even iPad, Roku, Apple TV) to mirror on the dash MMI screen. I installed this on my B8.5 S5, and the results are great. There will be lots of cables/wires/adapters involved, but it is an easy job and will cost you less than $200 and only a few minutes to install. I wrote this for mirroring my iPhone 6S, but it will work with any phone that has a video out adapter. Since the folks at Apple are greedy-planned-obsolescence-proprietary-cord scumbags, the Apple Lightning-to-HDMI adapter will cost $50, where those lucky to have a Droid phone will only need to spend half of that amount.


    Car: B8.5 S5 (manual FTMFW!)
    MMI Version: 3G+ w/Nav
    Difficulty: 0.5 beer (0 beers being easy, 12 beers being a full day job)
    Time: Less than 1 play-through of the song In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
    Cost: $150 - $200 depending on iPhone vs. Droid.
    Why: I mostly use it to run Waze through the MMI screen when I drive long trips. Praise Jebus for Waze.
    What it will do: Mirror your phone screen to the MMI screen. Do not attempt to stream Fast & Furious to your screen, your Audi will self destruct.
    What it won’t do: Allow you to listen to FM/Sirius/Jukebox/SD card music in your Audi while the video is mirroring. This kit ports the video AND sound to your car, so for music you have to also run music off your phone. Which is fine by me since I usually stream internet radio in the car (recommend Radioparadise.com) or MP3s on the phone (recommend Porcupine Tree).

    ** Before you start: You will need to have enabled the Video-in-motion (VIM) feature on your Audi through a VAG-Com. It is an easy hack, and there are lots of FAQs/resources online about how to do it. You just need to have the Ross Tech VAG-Com cable/software , or find a friendly Audi owner who will do it for you (I enjoy helping local VW/Audi people hack their cars with my VAG-Com).


    What you'll need:
    Audi AMI RCA Cable Adapter (I bought OEM since some people had compatibility issues with the knockoff ebay/Amazon cables): LINK $80 (thanks to my friend Pierre at AoA!)


    RCA-to-HDMI Adapter: AMAZON $34


    3 RCA Male-to-Male Adapter: AMAZON $7


    Apple iPhone to HMDI out adapter: LINK $49 (if you have a droid phone, you will be able to pick up a much cheaper droid version of this part)


    Short HDMI Cable: Short HDMI Cable: AMAZON $7


    Dual Port Power Outlet: AMAZON $13
    NOTE: You need to have 2 charging cables; 1 mini USB to charge the RCA-to-HDMI converter (required for converter to work), and another that plugs into the iPhone lighting to HDMI adapter (optional, but recommended since you will want the phone to charge while mirroring). With both of those, the phone will charge while you mirror the screen.


    iPhone Lightning Extension Cable (Optional): AMAZON $33
    (be careful, cheaper generic ones will NOT work, I've tried)




    Here's a quick summary of the installation:


    Here are all the wires you need laid out:
    (note: I am not showing the Lightning extension cable that I have running through the roof of the glove box down into the ashtray for a seamless & clean install)



    Instruction Steps:

    1. In your glove box, install the Audi AMI/MMI RCA adapter.

    2. Plug the 3 RCA wires into the RCA-to-HDMI adapter (you'll need 3 of the RCA male-to-male adapters). Make sure the RCA-to-HDMI adapter switch is set to NTSC.

    3. Plug the short HDMI cable into the RCA-to-HDMI adapter, and plug the other end of the HDMI cable into the Apple iPhone Lightning-to-HDMI adapter.

    4. Plug the Apple Lightning-to-HDMI adapter into your iPhone, or what I did was install a Lightning extension cable, so you can then run the extension cable behind the glove box and down into the center console. I have my cable coming up into my ashtray so I can leave my phone there to charge while I use the adapters.

    5. Once you have it all plugged in and powered, go into the Settings menu (while in Media), and scroll down for the options to switch the input to NTSC (vs. PAL) and 16:9 aspect ratio. In my experience, the phone mirror function would not work when I used PAL and the screen would be compressed if you chose 4:3 ratio.




    Here are the wires installed in the glove box:




    If successful, you should now see this new menu option in the Media Source menu:




    Here is the phone mirroring Waze:




    Here is the phone mirroring the web:



    You can still make and receive calls as if the phone was directly connected to the MMI via the AMI Phone cable or as if the phone was connected via Bluetooth:


    One part of the install you can't see here is the iPhone cable I have running up through the roof of the glove box, under the center console and into the ashtray. Next step is for me to install a power source in the glove box so I do not have to run the 2 charging cables and dual power outlet into the ashtray power outlet. I'll get to that in the near future.

    Additional notes:
    - This setup requires that both sound and video be utilized from your phone, which means that you can't listen to XM while mirroring your phone. For me, I run Waze while also streaming music off my iPhone at the same time.
    - You can substitute other devices for the iPhone; such as a Droid phone, Roku (it's been done), Apple TV (it's been done!), iPad, etc

    Now you can impress friends/cops/lovers with your car that has Waze built in to the infotainment center.

    I cannot take any credit for discovering this; many people have posted about this before with great instructions and pictures. I am just posting my experience and lessons learned. Other resources on how to do this:
    http://www.audiworld.com/forums/audi...creen-2888656/

    http://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-s...music-2846216/

    http://www.audiworld.com/forums/s6-c...nment-2846402/

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...I+Phone+mirror
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    why not just skip all the cables entirely and go with wireless mirroring...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by richib86 View Post
    why not just skip all the cables entirely and go with wireless mirroring...?
    +1

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    You ungrateful M'effers LOL.
    Life has taught me never try to make something idiot proof, they'll simply come up with a better idiot.
    I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richib86 View Post
    why not just skip all the cables entirely and go with wireless mirroring...?
    Could you use a Chromecast for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumerS4 View Post
    Could you use a Chromecast for this?
    I think you would need a wireless network to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumerS4 View Post
    Could you use a Chromecast for this?
    Funny, I was thinking the same thing.

    Hook the chromecast up to the built in wifi as well as your phone and in theory it should work.

    Edit: Also, the chromecast works without wifi... Might just have to try this now

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    Well done!

    Is there a way to display waze into MMI and have phone display another app? Technically it's not mirroring- more like extended display.
    Any ideas to get this functionality?


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    How would this work wirelessly? I can't get my wireless to work. Not sure if I need a subscription to something to have it functional though.


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    I have a hot-spot capability on my phone and trying to use Chromecast with my phone, but can't get it to work how the video on YouTube suggests. I'd love to have Chromecast in my car so I can stream to it. I'm sure I'm doing something little wrong. I don't have the HDMI adapter for my car yet anyways.
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    I believe one of the newer updates for the chromecast allows you to "stream to nearby devices" from your phone without needing a wifi connection.

    If there is enough interest on this and no one has done anything yet I might go pick everything up next week and see what I can get working.

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    Does this work on the 3G or just 3G+ in the 2013+ models?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic32 View Post
    Does this work on the 3G or just 3G+ in the 2013+ models?


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackfunk View Post
    You ungrateful M'effers LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY_Quattro View Post
    How would this work wirelessly? I can't get my wireless to work. Not sure if I need a subscription to something to have it functional though.


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    Would like to know this

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    This is great! Thanks for the write up. A lot of your pictures aren't showing up for me tho. Also, I may have missed it, but you didn't link us to the rca to hdmi converter that you used.
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    1) this only works if you have Nav
    2) if you want to do it wireless get the kivic-one
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    1) this only works if you have Nav
    2) if you want to do it wireless get the kivic-one
    Why does it only work with nav?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDeez View Post
    This is great! Thanks for the write up. A lot of your pictures aren't showing up for me tho. Also, I may have missed it, but you didn't link us to the rca to hdmi converter that you used.
    http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Composi...d+mini+hdmi2av
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    Thank you sir
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    Quote Originally Posted by jzinckgra View Post
    Why does it only work with nav?
    ability to watch video only works with Nav .. this is what i found from my research since i don't have nav... but the weird thing is the Kivic One Euro Car doesnt have Nav

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    ability to watch video only works with Nav .. this is what i found from my research since i don't have nav... but the weird thing is the Kivic One Euro Car doesnt have Nav

    So to be clear, this would work using Waze without factory nav? Don't care about video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzinckgra View Post
    So to be clear, this would work using Waze without factory nav? Don't care about video.
    yes.. full mirroring... waze .. google maps... messages... youtube... video .. anything your phone can do its just an exact mirror..

    if you're willing to take the risk on trying on a non-nav car let me know.. because i always wanted to do this
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    yes.. full mirroring... waze .. google maps... messages... youtube... video .. anything your phone can do its just an exact mirror..

    if you're willing to take the risk on trying on a non-nav car let me know.. because i always wanted to do this
    Sorry, I meant I have non nav car and wanted to know if this would still work with Waze or Google maps

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzinckgra View Post
    Sorry, I meant I have non nav car and wanted to know if this would still work with Waze or Google maps
    It's pretty much presenting a video image of your phone .. So all the apps your phone uses would work .. It doesn't care if the car had nav or not .. The big issue is will a non nav car let you present video on the screen from the ami adapter with the RCA's
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    It's pretty much presenting a video image of your phone .. So all the apps your phone uses would work .. It doesn't care if the car had nav or not .. The big issue is will a non nav car let you present video on the screen from the ami adapter with the RCA's
    Got it thanks. Doesn't look like Kivic supports Motorola phones which I have.

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    Is there a non-sketchy website to buy a Kivic One through?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRS Aaron View Post
    Is there a non-sketchy website to buy a Kivic One through?
    http://car-solutions.com/en/news/kiv...-purchase.html

    http://www.amazon.com/Kivic-Wireless.../dp/B00LWQ5DNA <--- when it becomes available again
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    Thanks for the links. After driving my wife's new Golf R all week, I really wish there was an OEM way to add more functionality to my MMI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRS Aaron View Post
    Thanks for the links. After driving my wife's new Golf R all week, I really wish there was an OEM way to add more functionality to my MMI.
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ghlight=alpine

    currently available in Europe .. keep your fingers crossed on if it makes it to the US .. actually you can buy the European Version now but you won't get any support with it

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    Wow, that's awesome. My sister has an Alpine unit in her A3 that she really likes and I could definitely get on board with something like this. One of the pics shows the regular car menu so if they can pull up the drive select this is a winning solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRS Aaron View Post
    Wow, that's awesome. My sister has an Alpine unit in her A3 that she really likes and I could definitely get on board with something like this. One of the pics shows the regular car menu so if they can pull up the drive select this is a winning solution.
    its 100% integration .. anything that's in the MMI will come up on a similar Alpine menu
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    its 100% integration .. anything that's in the MMI will come up on a similar Alpine menu
    I read through the thread and it would appear that cars with Nav may not work. I shall continue my quest.
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    Is it possible to set it up so only video goes into MMI but audio is via Bluetooth into MMI?


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    Quote Originally Posted by KRS Aaron View Post
    I read through the thread and it would appear that cars with Nav may not work. I shall continue my quest.
    oh yes sorry for the confusion.. this is for cars without Audi Navigation .. since you have Nav the original solution in this thread would work.. issue just would be it isn't wireless.. however you could run the lightning cable under the shifter to the cup holders
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    Does the original solution mentioned in this thread still require the VIM fix via VAG COM if you want to drive with screen mirror functionality?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinla View Post
    Does the original solution mentioned in this thread still require the VIM fix via VAG COM if you want to drive with screen mirror functionality?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinla View Post
    Does the original solution mentioned in this thread still require the VIM fix via VAG COM if you want to drive with screen mirror functionality?


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    HDMI is carrying video as well as Audio.. you would have to remove the red/white RCA cables then try it
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    Jun 05 2007
    AZ Member #
    18579
    Location
    Nashville, TN

    Has anyone tried this one? It's $95 HERE

    Description: Adapter for iOS and Android devices connection to car moniors. Due to RGBs output it can be connected to the OEM monitors via video interface. Allows to play video and audio on the connected monitor. Supports screens mirroring functions to display navigation, menu, applications, etc. on the connected monitor.





    Looks interesting...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
    Join Date
    Sep 24 2014
    AZ Member #
    284729
    My Garage
    2015 Audi Q3 Quattro, 2017 Corvette M7 Grand Sport, 2017 Audi SQ5, 2019 Porsche Macan, 24 Jetta GLI
    Location
    Central NJ

    What happens when you press the "FUN MODE" button????????????

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