MY16 S6 0-60 w/o LC

[hmuller]

I have a MY16 S6 without any modifications and wanted to test my 0-60 without using launch control just by flooring the gas pedal. My testing equipment was the Ross-Tech Hex-Net connected to VCDS on a laptop either by USB cable or WiFi (did not make a difference). The car was in dynamic mode, the transmission in S mode, and the electronic stability control was on. When I floored the pedal it seemed like eternity before the car started to move (perhaps almost a second). The 0-60 times reported by VCDS acceleration module were consistently about 5.0 seconds. Does that sound reasonable? I had previously tested using Torque Pro and a bluetooth dongle but my phone was flying around and the times were between 6.5 and 7.5 seconds. I knew that wasn't right probably caused by slow GPS refresh rate and phone not being immobilized. Any suggestion how to improve 0-60 without using LC or getting a tune? Any suggestions on how to measure 0-60 more accurately short of getting a VBOX sport?

[markreed]

If you were pushing the brake and gas at the same time, it might be retarding you throttle input...

[hmuller]

If you were pushing the brake and gas at the same time, it might be retarding you throttle input...

Didn't do that. Had my right foot on the brake. Let the brake go and stomped on the gas.

[richib86]

if you dont want to use LC you're better off brake boosting the car...

[hubris]

if you dont want to use LC you're better off brake boosting the car...

Can you brake boost without APR? I thought that was one of their improvements with the tune is it unlocks pedal input from both brake/gas.

[jstrebel]

From what you describe I don't think you actually were using LC. Procedure is: 1 hold down the TC button for a second, you will then see a message of ESC in sport mode followed by Braking Guard Off in the console display. Then while in Dynamic + S left foot brake all the way to the floor, hard. Pause a second. Now right foot floor the gas, RPM's will rise to around 4500-5k and hold there.. Now just release the brake and yer gone.

[jstrebel]

Derp.. Read your post again, you said 'without LC' my bad

[hmuller]

Thanks for all the replies so far. I was just wondering if 5.0 seconds 0-60 sounds about right for a stock S6 just flooring the gas pedal and not using launch control.

[yeuchau]

Thanks for all the replies so far. I was just wondering if 5.0 seconds 0-60 sounds about right for a stock S6 just flooring the gas pedal and not using launch control.

quick answer would be no, that should be for stock A6 3.0T number (+/- 0.3s depending on situation)

[richib86]

OP is also using VAG for 0-60 which also isnt the best way of measuring it

[hmuller]

OP is also using VAG for 0-60 which also isnt the best way of measuring it

Any cheap suggestions for better ways to measure it? I didn't really want to spend $430+ to get the VBOX sport.

[hubris]

Any cheap suggestions for better ways to measure it? I didn't really want to spend $430+ to get the VBOX sport.

P3Gauge is cheaper (mine was $380 but you can pay less if you're patient and wait for a sale), and it integrates right into your OEM vent and looks very stylish. Plus it offers instant readout on boost (I keep mine displaying boost all the time), EGT, temps, throttle position, RPMs, 0-100, 0-60 of course, etc., all kinds of neat stuff.

[LINDW4LL]

P3Gauge is cool and certainly offers lots of neat data, but isn't "better" in terms of measuring 0-60, I assume, since it's using the same data as VCDS does.

[Dguth]

So what's the best thing to buy or use to measure 0-60, 1/4 mile times, boost, etc. I'm looking into getting something. I loved my jeep SRT, it had all of this built in.


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[hubris]

P3Gauge is cool and certainly offers lots of neat data, but isn't "better" in terms of measuring 0-60, I assume, since it's using the same data as VCDS does.

Correct, it uses the same data via OBDII as VCDS, however it reads at a much higher rate than VCDS to my knowledge so it is inherently much better.

[VVG]

I have found that the best way to launch the car without launch control is actually not to just stomp on the gas. There is a definite delay if you do this, especially if the stability is still on. Turn the stability off, but then push the accelerator down in a smooth steady fashion.

[luv2sleep]

I agree with VVG. Turn the stability control off and you get better throttle to rubber response fosho! Computers are nice but sometimes they get in the way.

[hmuller]

Correct, it uses the same data via OBDII as VCDS, however it reads at a much higher rate than VCDS to my knowledge so it is inherently much better.

The log from VCDS connected to my Hex-Net shows ten reads per second. Do you know what the refresh rate is for the P3 vent gauge? At $389 it is only a little cheaper than the VBOX sport which is a 20Hz GPS logger but it definitely looks stylish.

[hmuller]

I have a MY16 S6 without any modifications and wanted to test my 0-60 without using launch control just by flooring the gas pedal. My testing equipment was the Ross-Tech Hex-Net connected to VCDS on a laptop either by USB cable or WiFi (did not make a difference). The car was in dynamic mode, the transmission in S mode, and the electronic stability control was on. When I floored the pedal it seemed like eternity before the car started to move (perhaps almost a second). The 0-60 times reported by VCDS acceleration module were consistently about 5.0 seconds. Does that sound reasonable? I had previously tested using Torque Pro and a bluetooth dongle but my phone was flying around and the times were between 6.5 and 7.5 seconds. I knew that wasn't right probably caused by slow GPS refresh rate and phone not being immobilized. Any suggestion how to improve 0-60 without using LC or getting a tune? Any suggestions on how to measure 0-60 more accurately short of getting a VBOX sport?

Update: I while ago I bit the bullet and bought a VBOX sport and it confirmed the 0-60 times previously measured with VCDS. Using the sequence described above (i.e. just flooring the gas without launch control) I got about 5.0 seconds very consistently. A few weeks ago I upgraded to stage 1 APR ECU/TCU and K&N air filter and now acceleration is in a different league. Same procedure, just flooring the gas, the VBOX sport reports 0-60 times of 3.8-4.0 seconds with the occasional 4.2 seconds. I have not yet tried launch control but since I'm no longer limited to 200 launches I may give it a try one of these days. Stay tuned.

[FourRings115]

Update: I while ago I bit the bullet and bought a VBOX sport and it confirmed the 0-60 times previously measured with VCDS. Using the sequence described above (i.e. just flooring the gas without launch control) I got about 5.0 seconds very consistently. A few weeks ago I upgraded to stage 1 APR ECU/TCU and K&N air filter and now acceleration is in a different league. Same procedure, just flooring the gas, the VBOX sport reports 0-60 times of 3.8-4.0 seconds with the occasional 4.2 seconds. I have not yet tried launch control but since I'm no longer limited to 200 launches I may give it a try one of these days. Stay tuned.

Can you elaborate on the 200 launch limit? Warranty issues? Thanks!

[hmuller]

Can you elaborate on the 200 launch limit? Warranty issues? Thanks!

If you are stock, the use of launch control is limited by Audi to 200 times. A TCU tune can overwrite this limit (e.g. APR TCU tune limit is 3000). I'm planning to flash back to stock before visiting the dealership for any service. If I'm lucky, I can avoid warranty issues this way, if I'm unlucky, I'll have to pay to play.

[Ze_Nardo6]

Use launch control and report back!!!

[zcd2.7t]

Using the sequence described above (i.e. just flooring the gas without launch control) I got about 5.0 seconds very consistently...I have not yet tried launch control but since I'm no longer limited to 200 launches I may give it a try one of these days. Stay tuned.

FWIW, Car and Driver got 0-60 in 3.7 seconds with L/C and 5-60 (roughly equivalent to your launch technique) in 4.9 seconds, so your results sound spot-on.

The "Dynolicious" mobile app reported 0-60 in 4.2 seconds using L/C the one time I used the app in this car...

[Barritia]

I was getting 3.8-4.0 seconds to 60 on stage 1+ but was having grip issues with launch control. Waiting for the trans tune to see if this would help.