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    Gonna look on a A4 1.8T with GT2X setup, hot or not?

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    First of all, i'm not new to these cars or engines at all, have had a lot's of them, all from stock to gt2871r setups, and this over many years.

    Now not far from here a guy is selling a really nice a4 1.8t with gt2x turbo, bigger manifoild 440cc injectors, fmic, 3'' downpipe and exhaust and all supporting mods.
    This is an 'elemenator-kit' turbo, with is good for the yearly road-test all cars here has to pass, and big tuning is not allowed, that will say all tuning that is clearly visual.
    Small things like FMIC, bigger exhaust and so on are OK, but a big garrett will not pass.

    The car and engine is okai, i know allmost everything about it, but this turbo have i never tried before.

    Did a research and found some threads about this turbo, most of these threads are pretty old, from 2007-2010, and it's not much good to read about this turbo.

    I know it's only oil cooled, but don't know so very much about is else than that. I do really good know how to threat a turbo engine, let the turbo cool down and so on, so me as a owner is not a problem i think then it come to make things like engines, turbo and so on to last.
    Here in sweden there is not any that i know of that have been using this.

    Anyone that can tell me anything about this now? Or is it the same now as it was 6-7-8-9 years ago?

    I have seen this car a few years ago, and have been running without any problems since i last saw it.

    It's only running 16psi/1.1bar boost, as the owner of the car is using it as a daily car, the same i looking to do, no race-car or drag-car or something like that.
    Going to the shops, movies, just hanging around.
    This turbo can do alot more boost as far as i know, but don't think i need so very much more really, a chipped 1.8t is to slow, the k03 is hopeless and the k04 fell asleep a little to early is my experience.

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    well, they're good turbos
    I guess if the price is right go for it.
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    Basically a bolt on gt28r (gt2560r) eliminator. It was revised from an oil cooled to oil and water cooled version.

    http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...ory_Code=VVWTK
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    The price is really good, the car looks great, low milage for it's age, but after reading all this bad stuff about this turbo on the web i got a little unsure.

    I know everything can be broken with a 'stupid' owner, but my self i know how to handle turbo engines, use good oil and change it often, that will not shorten the life of the turbo, rater than get it last longer.

    The reson i'm looking at this car is that is has the same price than a stock boring 1.8T, if i want to buy a stock a4 1.8t, than i have to spend some money to get some more power into it, but this car already has it, so i get the tuning for 'free' if you know.

    How much boost are safe on these turbo's?

    That it's only oil cooled is one thing, but alot of audi's on the late 80's and early 90's was also only oil cooled..

    Offcause oil and watercooled is best, but everything that is better, cost more.

    I'm looking for a cheap car that is nice to drive, look at and have some power and i just found it, didn't think i was gonna find it in my price range.

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    Are you sure that particular GT2X is oil-cooled only? Just asking since as seerlah mentioned above, they revised the GT2X to be watercooled.
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    I just read some more, looks like this came in a oil AND water cooler version later?

    The seller just send me this photo, is not this oil and watercooling or what?
    There are two lines in on the top, so that has to be oil and water?
    Maybe this has the 'later' version of this turbo?

    Edit to you last one: Yes there is to versions as i have read, the first one was only oil cooled and just found this as you see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seerlah View Post
    Basically a bolt on gt28r (gt2560r) eliminator. It was revised from an oil cooled to oil and water cooled version.

    http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...ory_Code=VVWTK
    Buts it's also journal bearing. Basically a oil cooled frankenturbo. I couldn't find stats, but if it's a gt28 turbine, you could also slap a 28rs, 2871, or gtx28, etc. and could be quite fast.
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    This will be better than a k04 and it is the updated turbo so water cooled thats a +. If the price is right that should put you at the same power lvl as the new F21 or close to a GTRS as others said.

    number range but something like 225 - 300 whp based on fuel and other mods and health of the car.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Seerlah's Avatar
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    That is indeed an oil and water cooled updated version.
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    So this turbo can't be that can it?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Seerlah's Avatar
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    Be what? It's exactly what I linked in the second post, but the revised version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amx2k View Post
    So this turbo can't be that can it?
    it should have a stamp/tag on it with the SN MN that should tell you everything you need to know?

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    Garret should have the tag on the CHAR
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    No i ment, this turbo can't be that bad, can it?

    Anyone know anything about boost-lag on this? When does it hit boost and so on?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Seerlah's Avatar
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    It's basically a gt28r. Everything is tune dependant as far as spool and power goes. It's not a big turbo. Figure 225-250whp or so on pump gas if you are lucky.
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    So this should show about 1BAR before 3500rpm than?

    The work 'pump-gas', we don't have it here in sweden, we may have better fuel than you, don't know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amx2k View Post
    So this should show about 1BAR before 3500rpm than?

    The work 'pump-gas', we don't have it here in sweden, we may have better fuel than you, don't know?
    Your '95' is about equivalent to our '87' since one is measure in AKI and the other in RON; isn't E85 pretty widely available to you? That would certainly make things more fun.

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    We have RON99 here, Shell has that, that is used alot by we that tune our cars.

    We have E-85 aswell yes, but it's getting less of that.

    I know this turbo is not big, but it should hit 1.3-1.5 bar before 3500rpm or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amx2k View Post
    We have RON99 here, Shell has that, that is used alot by we that tune our cars.

    We have E-85 aswell yes, but it's getting less of that.

    I know this turbo is not big, but it should hit 1.3-1.5 bar before 3500rpm or what?
    boost is irrelevant . How well it spools depends how it's tuned, what actuator it has and how healthy the whole thing is
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    Quote Originally Posted by amx2k View Post
    We have RON99 here, Shell has that, that is used alot by we that tune our cars.

    We have E-85 aswell yes, but it's getting less of that.

    I know this turbo is not big, but it should hit 1.3-1.5 bar before 3500rpm or what?
    Yes, with the correct tune, it should hit full boost by then.

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