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    Facelift tail light A4 B8 SEDAN MY 2010 LED -->MY 2012 LED

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    HI!
    As first, EXCUSE ME for my bad English...
    I'm doing facelift rear lights on my A4 sedan from MY 2010 LED to MY 2012 LED
    I have already replaced trunk lid:

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    and bought this tail light:

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    Connector:

    8R0 973 605 X 2
    4H0 973 713 X 2
    000 979 025 E X 5
    000 979 009 E X 5

    My car have this Central Conv. (J393) Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DP HW: 8K0 907 064 DP
    On Google I have found this:

    https://www.drive2.ru/l/7268337/
    Russian forum
    And this:
    http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/fl-ru...5.html?page=45
    German forum

    Can anyone help me to wiring and coding my car?
    Last edited by gigen1979; 04-24-2016 at 11:21 AM.

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    Not fully sure, few years are past, but this was coding and wiring for this white sedan you have in your post:
    Werte:

    181= 0
    Left
    197= 14850 Rücklicht, Parklicht, CH-LH + Kabel für innere Rücklicht
    195= 14853 Bremslicht + Kabel für äußere Bremslicht
    203= 8265 NSL
    205= 13 + Kabel für äußere Rückfahrlicht
    207= 12 Blinker + Kabel für inneren Blinker
    Right
    198= 14882 Rücklicht, Parklicht, CH-LH + Kabel für innere Rücklicht
    196= 14885 Bremslicht + Kabel für äußere Bremslicht
    204= 8297 NSL
    206= 45 + Kabel für äußere Rückfahrlicht
    208= 44 Blinker + Kabel für inneren Blinker
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    First one thank you for answere Gunnark100
    Can I use this wiring/coding on my car:

    181= 0
    197= 14850 Rücklicht, Parklicht, CH-LH + Kabel für innere Rücklicht
    195= 14853 Bremslicht + Kabel für äußere Bremslicht
    203= 8265 NSL
    205= 13 + Kabel für äußere Rückfahrlicht
    207= 12 Blinker + Kabel für inneren Blinker
    198= 14882 Rücklicht, Parklicht, CH-LH + Kabel für innere Rücklicht
    196= 14885 Bremslicht + Kabel für äußere Bremslicht
    204= 8297 NSL
    206= 45 + Kabel für äußere Rückfahrlicht
    208= 44 Blinker + Kabel für inneren Blinker
    ??
    I have tryed to wiring only blinker 208-->44 and 207-->12 (these are the same of my car) without apply all coding and blinker don't work

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    " I have tryed to wiring only blinker 208-->44 and 207-->12 without apply all coding and blinker don't work "

    Did you delete your old values from other channels for turnsignal ?
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    I just read Russian link you posted, all in black and white and colored, so use this one, any help with translation, send me pm.

    Btw your posted German link doesn't open!
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    I haven't deleted/modified any old channels values
    This is the german link:
    http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/fl-ru...5.html?page=45
    The autor add eight wire and modify adaptation as here:

    181 = 0
    197 = 14850 taillight , parking lights , CH - LH + cable for inner taillight
    195 = 14853 Brake Light + Cable for external brake light
    203 = 8265 NSL
    205 = 13 + cable for external reversing light
    207 = 12 + flasher cable for internal flasher
    198 = 14882 taillight , parking lights , CH - LH + cable for inner taillight
    196 = 14885 Brake Light + Cable for external brake light
    204 = 8297 NSL
    206 = 45 + cable for external reversing light
    208 = 44 + blinker cable for internal blinker

    In the Russian link instead autor add only six wire and modify adaptation as here (if my translation is ok):

    181 — 0
    183 — 255__ (old 16383)
    191 — 15___ (old 16143)
    195 — 12___ (old 6275) + blinker cable for external blinker
    196 — 44___ (old 6307) + blinker cable for external blinker
    197 — 13___ (old 7172) reversing light
    198 — 45___ (old 7204) reversing light
    203 — 14853 (old 73) Brake Light + Cable for external brake light
    204 — 14885 (old 105) Brake Light + Cable for external brake light
    205 — 51201 (old 13) parking lights + cable for inner parking lights
    206 — 8297_ (old 45) NSL + cable for inner NSL
    207 — 14850 (old 12) parking lights
    208 — 14882 (old 44) parking lights

    Which one is better and similar to the original Audi wiring/coding?

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    They both using 181 as 0, so not much difference, take which looks easier for you, as I said Russian one looks a bit better, wiring all in one table etc...regarding coding, same process, regardless close to genuine or not. In Russian link, you don't need changing 183 and 191, 181=0 will cover those anyway!!!
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    Thank's Gunnark I'll try russian diagram
    If coding don't work there is someone can help me?
    I'll post my Central Conv. (J393) original coding
    Last edited by gigen1979; 04-24-2016 at 11:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigen1979 View Post
    Thank's Gunnark I'll try russian diagramm
    If coding don't work there is someone can help me?
    I'll post my Central Conv. (J393) original coding
    ...don't worry, somebody will help, but its fixed setup so it must work! Just make wiring slowly - go by pins. Just side-note if you using speaker wire(which i would not recommend for outer connections as it may "corrode/oxidize" with age) use hermetic connectors between wires.
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    Do you know Gunnark100 if Russian cars tail light function (blinker, brake, parking...) is as European cars (I remember you that I live in Italy)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigen1979 View Post
    Do you know Gunnark100 if Russian cars tail light function (blinker, brake, parking...) is as European cars (I remember you that I live in Italy)?



    Yes
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    Good news
    Coding is OK:







    There is only one problem....
    The long coding of centr 46 don't work and I can't go back to original coding... And now?
    Last edited by gigen1979; 04-25-2016 at 03:11 PM.

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    Success? You don't need longcode to reset back, just change manually channels (same as you did for fl coding), hopefully you marked down your old values!
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    At first time I tryed german wiring/coding and changed only 198 = 14882 but this don't work.
    After this I restored old value 198 = 5156 with original wiring, but tail lights were not working anymore and I verified that all chanel restored to 0 value...

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    because of this I have not marked the old values...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigen1979 View Post
    because of this I have not marked the old values...

    Ok, no idea, why those tests needed, but it doesn't matter, is all channels 0 or only 181-212 ? Do you want install old lights back for a time or new?

    191 ,16143,
    192, 3,
    193, 6,
    194, 7,
    195,5251,
    196,5283,
    197, 5124,
    198, 5156,
    199, 0,
    200, 32
    201, 0,
    202, 32,
    203, 73,
    204, 105,
    205, 13,
    206, 45,
    207, 12,
    208, 44,
    209, 0,
    210, 0,
    211, 51214,
    212, 51215,

    Before any mod - please note/mark down your original values!
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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    Retrofit completed



    Thanks Gunnark100!

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    Nice job - bel lavoro
    Retrofits: FL taillights / MMI 3G & 3G+(Street view incl.)/ Color Cluster & FL S5 Cluster/ BiXenon/ ADS Lite
    Other: ECU Tune/ VCDS Tweaks/ FL Gearknob/ Soundproofing/ Interior 6D Carbon Wrap/ Rieger Rep Front Bumper Valance/ Basic sound(8) upgrade to "ASS"(9+1) + B/O Sub(in sidepanel)/Tweeters + Activsub/ Efficiency Prog via Cluster & Gateway flash/ Sideskirts/ Window Tint/ Wsp Peeler reps/ License plate & Interior leds

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