Worth it to retrofit B&O speakers into my non-B&O S4?

[TappaNuKegga]

I looking to do a small upgrade to my speakers, the stock Audi Concert system is not bad by any means but I'm kind of a sound snob/audiophile. I don't have a whole lot of experience with automotive speakers though.

I have access to a full 12 speaker B&O system including sub and amp, for around $500. Do you think this would be money well spent? Or can I get better sounding aftermarket speakers for ~$500? Thanks in advance for your help

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[blackfunk]

Personally I would not. I have the B&O setup but I wouldn't pay aftermarket for it. If I'm buying additional speakers I'd go full aftermarket and get speakers that will handily outperform the B&O setup.

[Works2shoot]

Can just the amp be fitted to the standard stereo? I have after markets and until I do a full amp upgrade, figured that this could give me some extra power.

[jimrobbington]

Personally I would not. I have the B&O setup but I wouldn't pay aftermarket for it. If I'm buying additional speakers I'd go full aftermarket and get speakers that will handily outperform the B&O setup.

I agree, not worth the time nor hassle no matter how you look at it. Just start with real aftermarket and you will be happy. You can probably get 2 pairs of really good components for all 4 doors for $500.

[Drunktank]

If you're an audiophile, then you know every stock system is crap compared to aftermarket. There's lots of unhappy people with B&O. Some wonder whether it's really an upgrade at all. There's lots of threads about the various upgrade levels you can do.

[hotleadsingergu]

Personally I would not. I have the B&O setup but I wouldn't pay aftermarket for it. If I'm buying additional speakers I'd go full aftermarket and get speakers that will handily outperform the B&O setup.

This. I like my B&O, but if I were paying myself I would just build a better system. You don't need 15 speakers...you need speakers that can perform.

[BJYorko]

Personally I would not. I have the B&O setup but I wouldn't pay aftermarket for it. If I'm buying additional speakers I'd go full aftermarket and get speakers that will handily outperform the B&O setup.

I agree, not worth the time nor hassle no matter how you look at it. Just start with real aftermarket and you will be happy. You can probably get 2 pairs of really good components for all 4 doors for $500.

This. I like my B&O, but if I were paying myself I would just build a better system. You don't need 15 speakers...you need speakers that can perform.

It's already been said perfectly... listen to these guys. Get good quality aftermarket speakers that will most likely sound better.

[HeymyAudi]

This. I like my B&O, but if I were paying myself I would just build a better system. You don't need 15 speakers...you need speakers that can perform.

I agree I like the system it sounds great for a luxury car but I would throw some better speakers in keep it moving. I have the same issue in my Mini Cooper it didnt come with the upgraded system and I put some component speakers in there and even on the stock radio it sounded 1000x's better.

[doublezero30]

kind of bumping this back up rather than starting a new thread.....

I have the base stereo and its not awful (its not good either). The bass is plenty for me, but im after clearer sound. can i simply buy better speakers and install them? or am i going to need an additional amp and all that stuff as well? Thanks!

[jygesq]

To make it sound like. B&O especially if you are looking at clarity. If sound, you will need a B&o O complete system. Do not waste your money. You car is an 07, ? Trade it in when you are ready and start with a car that has the. B & O systrm already

[Drunktank]

"Clearer sound" is pretty relative. No one except you will know what you'll be happy with. Maybe new speakers, maybe new head unit. Even replacing just the speakers in this car is an adventure.

[doublezero30]

"Clearer sound" is pretty relative. No one except you will know what you'll be happy with. Maybe new speakers, maybe new head unit. Even replacing just the speakers in this car is an adventure.

I personally love the B&O but i know thats too much work to retrofit it, if at all possible. Taking the door cards off and replacing the speakers shouldnt be too difficult i just dont want to spend the money on good speakers if im going to find out in the end that its no different. Trying to do my research up front.

[evanb]

I personally love the B&O but i know thats too much work to retrofit it, if at all possible. Taking the door cards off and replacing the speakers shouldnt be too difficult i just dont want to spend the money on good speakers if im going to find out in the end that its no different. Trying to do my research up front.

I just added the B&O front door tweeters and that definitely helped.

[Whitee]

I love the B&O and its definately an upgrade coming from standard sound, if you don't think so, something is wrong with you.


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[chaos2984]

I will agree with everyone. The B&O is an upgrade over the base system. But if your going through the hassle to replace speakers just put in aftermarket ones. You can get some for probably around the same cost that will work with factory amp and out preform the stock B&O speaks for close to the same price. And you will be left with better speakers all around and a happier you.

[Vanimal]

What are some good after markets that work with the stock amp? I'd like to at least replace my front left & right.


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[doug97gxe]

What are some good after markets that work with the stock amp? I'd like to at least replace my front left & right.


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i didnt' read the full thread but maybe this has some info http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...amp-O-Speakers

[doug97gxe]

kind of bumping this back up rather than starting a new thread.....

I have the base stereo and its not awful (its not good either). The bass is plenty for me, but im after clearer sound. can i simply buy better speakers and install them? or am i going to need an additional amp and all that stuff as well? Thanks!

yes you will need an additional Amp ..and don't upgrade to BO.. do something aftermarket

[doublezero30]

i didnt' read the full thread but maybe this has some info http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...amp-O-Speakers

I saw this thread. There is good infor but its all about replacing the BO system, not the base system like i am hoping to find more info on.

[doug97gxe]

I saw this thread. There is good infor but its all about replacing the BO system, not the base system like i am hoping to find more info on.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...(lots-of-pics)
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...system-upgrade

[doublezero30]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...(lots-of-pics)
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...system-upgrade

All of this is too much for me. I would literally be 110% satisfied with the BO if my car had it. I think im going to talk to a car audio shop and see what they think about just putting speakers in.

[LumpyBumpstick]

All of this is too much for me. I would literally be 110% satisfied with the BO if my car had it. I think im going to talk to a car audio shop and see what they think about just putting speakers in.

OMFG CLIFFHANGER!!!!!

What did you end up doing...? I need to know how this story ends!!!!!

[evanb]

I added the B&O door tweeters and upgraded the 3 dashboard speakers. It made a significant difference.

[BR11S4]

B&O isn't that great to be honest. System needs more bass. It's not bad but my 18 Silversdo High Country Bose system is better.

I would go aftermarket for sure. Components and a good amp would put B&O to shame on clarity and sound levels.



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[jungy4]

My question is which source are you listening from?

Nowadays it's common to listen to XM radio, MP3's, and internet radio, meaning that it will be compressed format. Some vehicles don't even come with a disc player anymore.
I would think that standard sound system on a luxury car can do the job, unless you want to watch a movie in your car.

[bhvrdr]

I added the B&O door tweeters and upgraded the 3 dashboard speakers. It made a significant difference.

Curious i thought b&o is 8ohm and stock is 4ohm. Is this an issue?

Mike

[evanb]

Curious i thought b&o is 8ohm and stock is 4ohm. Is this an issue?

Mike

The stock setup had no door tweeters. The B&O door tweeters had a built in resistor and was plug and play in parallel with the door speaker IIRC.

[BR11S4]

My question is which source are you listening from?

Nowadays it's common to listen to XM radio, MP3's, and internet radio, meaning that it will be compressed format. Some vehicles don't even come with a disc player anymore.
I would think that standard sound system on a luxury car can do the job, unless you want to watch a movie in your car.

I have a hard time listening to XM Radio. Sound quality is so poor for music

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[10kredline]

Sorry for bringing this back. So what if I can get the complete speaker set, used, including the grills and except the amp, all for $350? Still worth it?

[wrxkyle]

Sorry for bringing this back. So what if I can get the complete speaker set, used, including the grills and except the amp, all for $350? Still worth it?

amp is prob another 400ish used, even at 750 i don't think it's a good deal for what you get, and you have to get the amp, the speakers will be no real good without it and the time alignment, dsp, crossovers and everything built into it. you can't run the b&o mids without a crossover as the b&o amp runs those crossovers actively (tweeter has a cap for a crossover)


you're going to spend a lot and need the b&o speakers all the way around the car, and the b&o amp and use vcds to code in the amp/turn on the amp.

instead go with a 3 way aftermarket speaker set and a proper amp and dsp. with few exceptions rear speakers are for rear passengers and hurt the sound quality and staging of a system, so you can leave those alone/on the stock amp and just fade 100% to front unless you have passengers.

amps are pretty cheap.
dsp's are a range of cheap to expensive
speakers are how much you want to spend
higher end are things like audiofrog gb series, mille legend ml280, ml700 etc
a lot of people like the sound of the audison voce series and they can be had pretty cheap

on rgsound.it (i have used them they were great) you can get a set of voce 1.1 tweets, voce 3.0 mids, w800neo 8" midbass, and a helix v eight 8 channel dsp/amp combo with two outputs (like sub and center channel) that would let you go three way active up front, cover your rear two speakers for back fill if you are into that, and have output for center channel (not needed unless you want a two-seat tune so your passenger gets just as good sound, i'm selfish and they never know enough to care)

then you could go the 10"pioneer/ jl w0 in the rear deck with a small 200watt ish amp or a 12" in a proper box in the trunk and have a system that is way WAY nicer than the b&o for a few dollars more than you'd probably spend on getting a full b&o setup used on ebay in who knows what condition.

you'll drop around 800 for a full b&o setup with amp, speakers and grills, maybe more. not worth that kind of money for the sound you get. esp lacking in the bass dept which is why so many upgrade their rear sub on the b&0 system anyway


if you order on rgsound.it email them and ask for an adjusted price removing vat, that's the euro tax and they don't have to charge it to us customers but they have to manually adjust the quote to reflect it. i think it saves like 15%? don't remember exactly