Tested 0-60 Times Anywhere?

[UCFast]

I've been scrounging the internet for a few days looking for instrument tested 0-60 times for the B9 A4 but haven't managed to find any. I figured I'd ask the board if any of you have come across one? Or, possible, done a test yourself?

[Jet Jockey]

Audi claims 0-60 in 5.8 seconds which is pretty good IMO.

Also, German car manufacturers usually post conservative figures so it could be slightly faster.

[UCFast]

Just found this on the Youtube...

[hodrosS42001]

Just found this on the Youtube...

Oh boy.. the S4 will be ridiculous stock

[UCFast]

Oh boy.. the S4 will be ridiculous stock

Well, I don't think that guy's 5.3 is accurate, nor is it technically instrument tested. Sooner or later Motortrend or C&D should have a tested article out. Though, the "launch control" feature is pretty neat and not something I was aware was part of the B9.

[dbuxton13]

A4 = 5.8
S4 = 4.7

Only claimed by Audi reps at this point. Impatiently awaiting the arrival of S4s. I live in Germany and the new A4s are starting to crop up on the roads...the wait is driving me crazy.

[Mitchfin]

A4 = 5.8
S4 = 4.7

Only claimed by Audi reps at this point. Impatiently awaiting the arrival of S4s. I live in Germany and the new A4s are starting to crop up on the roads...the wait is driving me crazy.

Audi USAs website only references the 0-60 time for the 2.0T Quattro once under the performance section and quotes it at 5.7 seconds. I'll try to upload a pic.

[Mitchfin]

[Jet Jockey]

So about a second slower than the S4 to 60 mph, not bad at all!

[Lugi20]

So about a second slower than the S4 to 60 mph, not bad at all!

Which S4? I had a B6 once upon a time and that was 5.4s officially, they've only gotten faster since then.

[Jet Jockey]

Which S4? I had a B6 once upon a time and that was 5.4s officially, they've only gotten faster since then.

I don't know which S4 dbuxton13 is quoting in his post but he says the S4 does the 0-60 in 4.7 seconds and that the new B9 A4 does it in 5.7 seconds according to the printed info in the Audi engine picture...

So if true that is only a one second gap between the two which regardless of the S4 is pretty good IMO. Add to that better handling and it makes for a very good DD.

EDIT... On Audi's US web site the present generation S4 (MY 2016) is quoted at a 0-60 time of 4.9 seconds so the new B9 A4 is less than a second slower to 60 mph.

[hodrosS42001]

Every time Audi claims is underrated. When the B8 came out in 2010 Audi listed 0-60 at 4.9 seconds and I was able to do 4.4-4.5 repeatedly over and over with me and half a tank of gas.

[Jet Jockey]

Every time Audi claims is underrated. When the B8 came out in 2010 Audi listed 0-60 at 4.9 seconds and I was able to do 4.4-4.5 repeatedly over and over with me and half a tank of gas.

What's your point? We have already covered this here...

A stock B8.5 S4 will do the 0-60 run in 4.9 seconds according to Audi... A stock B9 A4 will do the 0-60 run in 5.7 seconds according to Audi... This according to Audi is only a 0.8 difference! In real world testing both cars could be as much as 0.5 of a second faster which means the S4 would still be only 0.7 of a second faster than the new B9 A4.

When in the history of a platform (B5, B6, B7, B8 or B8.5) was the A4 within 0.7 of a second of the S4 on a 0-60 run?

Consider that the S4 cost at a minimum $10K more (package for package), the 0.7 of a second difference is IMHO, is not worth it especially if the car is to be used as a DD.

My point here is that the new B9 A4 is really fast out of the box. With its newer, stiffer chassis, a new 5 link front suspension that seems to get rid of most if not all of the understeer known to previous Audis which makes it a better handling car, better and bigger brakes at all four corners with finally a nice 4 piston caliper system in the front, I think you are getting what is the best A4 ever performance wise not to mention a better interior, more interior room with a nice B&O sound system and a lighter car.

[jokingjimmy]

Edit: Bah nvm I'm an idiot lol.

[dbuxton13]

The times quoted were only for the MY17 A4/S4. Agreed that 1 second more on 0-60 for the A4 is an incredible bargain. When I have to ship my [future] S4 to the States with slower speed limits it won't matter much anyway. But for the time I have left in Germany, I will very much enjoy driving the new S4 around the Nürburgring (only 35 minutes away) and the autobahn (or at least the sections still remaining with no speed limit). For me that 1 less second equals moar smile.

[hodrosS42001]

What's your point? We have already covered this here...

A stock B8.5 S4 will do the 0-60 run in 4.9 seconds according to Audi... A stock B9 A4 will do the 0-60 run in 5.7 seconds according to Audi... This according to Audi is only a 0.8 difference! In real world testing both cars could be as much as 0.5 of a second faster which means the S4 would still be only 0.7 of a second faster than the new B9 A4.

When in the history of a platform (B5, B6, B7, B8 or B8.5) was the A4 within 0.7 of a second of the S4 on a 0-60 run?

Consider that the S4 cost at a minimum $10K more (package for package), the 0.7 of a second difference is IMHO, is not worth it especially if the car is to be used as a DD.

My point here is that the new B9 A4 is really fast out of the box. With its newer, stiffer chassis, a new 5 link front suspension that seems to get rid of most if not all of the understeer known to previous Audis which makes it a better handling car, better and bigger brakes at all four corners with finally a nice 4 piston caliper system in the front, I think you are getting what is the best A4 ever performance wise not to mention a better interior, more interior room with a nice B&O sound system and a lighter car.

My point was that if Audi claims 5.7-5.8... 0-60 for the A4 you will easily see faster times such as 5.2-5.3 seconds..

[Nikoman]

I heard the B9 S4 will not have Stronic dual clutch trans. It's supposed to have a tiptronic. Is this true?

[Mitchfin]

I heard the B9 S4 will not have Stronic dual clutch trans. It's supposed to have a tiptronic. Is this true?

Unfortunately yes, theory is that the Stronic will be reserved for the RS4. Are they able to perform launch control on the Tiptronics?

[Jet Jockey]

Unfortunately yes, theory is that the Stronic will be reserved for the RS4. Are they able to perform launch control on the Tiptronics?

Correct on the new S4 and the Tiptronic and it sucks! I know a lot of people with B8 S4s with manuals that did not even want to wait for the B9 S4 when they found out that a manual would not be available and only a DSG/Stronic would come with the car. They were even more shocked when it was announced that it wouldn't even be the Stronic but back to the Tiptronic tranny in the S4... People just can't believe it.

I do not believe there is launch control on a Tiptronic tranny because it is after all a "regular" auto tranny with a torque converter.

Read here about the new S4 and its 8 speed Tiptronic...

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/20...-transmission/

[Mitchfin]

Correct on the new S4 and the Tiptronic and it sucks! I know a lot of people with B8 S4s with manuals that did not even want to wait for the B9 S4 when they found out that a manual would not be available and only a DSG/Stronic would come with the car. They were even more shocked when it was announced that it wouldn't even be the Stronic but back to the Tiptronic tranny in the S4... People just can't believe it.

I do not believe there is launch control on a Tiptronic tranny because it is after all a "regular" auto tranny with a torque converter.

Read here about the new S4 and its 8 speed Tiptronic...

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/20...-transmission/

So unfortunate, I was planning on getting a new S4 next year (settled for A4 last month to tide me over) but going to the Stronic in the B9, coming from a Tiptronic the thought of going back sounds no Bueno.

[Nikoman]

There must be some missing information about the new tip trans. A ground breaking design that performs like a stronic???

[hodrosS42001]

There must be some missing information about the new tip trans. A ground breaking design that performs like a stronic???

The 8 Speed ZF Performs great in its current configuration.

[Jet Jockey]

The 8 Speed ZF Performs great in its current configuration.

Yes it does... I had the chance to try it in a Q5 with the 3.0L TDi and it moves! Very fast and smooth shifting. Almost bought the Q5 over the B9 A4... It was only a year old (MY2015) with about 12,000 miles on it with 3 years left on the warranty but did not have the S-Line option which killed it for me. Besides the Q5 is changing next year and over all I preferred the new A4.

[riegeraudi]

1 second 0-60 is huge or even .7 seconds is huge. In a race roughly every .2seconds equals 1 car length. So in a 0-60 race the S4 would win by about 3 - 5 car lengths. That isn't even close
Second the DSG transmissions aren't the most reliable transmissions and unless Audi has made a huge improvement to it then you A4 guys who like to keep the cars longer than 4 years might get pissed on the repair bill once out of warranty. Visit the B8 S4 forum and you will see many failed DSG's. Look at Audi and how Audi has chosen to go with the ZF transmission with the higher powered V8 twin turbo S8 and RS7. This just tells us that the DSG can't handle the power and and that they have problems with it in higher power cars since they are putting it in the A4 and not S4. I am willing to bet that you will see this also in the next gen. of A6 and S6.

[Jet Jockey]

1 second 0-60 is huge or even .7 seconds is huge. In a race roughly every .2seconds equals 1 car length. So in a 0-60 race the S4 would win by about 3 - 5 car lengths. That isn't even close
Second the DSG transmissions aren't the most reliable transmissions and unless Audi has made a huge improvement to it then you A4 guys who like to keep the cars longer than 4 years might get pissed on the repair bill once out of warranty. Visit the B8 S4 forum and you will see many failed DSG's. Look at Audi and how Audi has chosen to go with the ZF transmission with the higher powered V8 twin turbo S8 and RS7. This just tells us that the DSG can't handle the power and and that they have problems with it in higher power cars since they are putting it in the A4 and not S4. I am willing to bet that you will see this also in the next gen. of A6 and S6.

LOL... The point is these are street cars, not race cars racing on a track. I'm sure every time you leave a street corner you are launching your car at max performance! I don’t really care if on a launch the new S4 is 3 car length ahead of me by the time we reach 60mph. The S4 owner better get something for the extra $10-$12K he is going to pay for his S4 (package for package).

Again the point is the new A4 is closer in performance to the S4 than it has ever been before in previous generations. As for the DSG, it is known that in the earlier generations they had problems.

They say this is the latest version of the DSG in the new A4. Time will tell if it is problematic but keep in mind that the new A4 does not have the horse power or torque of the present S4 or that of the new B9 S4.

I certainly hope they have fixed the problems with their Sports Diff too. It's not an option on the A4 but IIRC will be on the S4 so you may still have to opt out of that option if you’re the type of guy that tracks or is always cranking the crap out of your car.

[The Fat Kid]

What's your point? We have already covered this here...

A stock B8.5 S4 will do the 0-60 run in 4.9 seconds according to Audi... A stock B9 A4 will do the 0-60 run in 5.7 seconds according to Audi... This according to Audi is only a 0.8 difference! In real world testing both cars could be as much as 0.5 of a second faster which means the S4 would still be only 0.7 of a second faster than the new B9 A4.

When in the history of a platform (B5, B6, B7, B8 or B8.5) was the A4 within 0.7 of a second of the S4 on a 0-60 run?

Consider that the S4 cost at a minimum $10K more (package for package), the 0.7 of a second difference is IMHO, is not worth it especially if the car is to be used as a DD.

My point here is that the new B9 A4 is really fast out of the box. With its newer, stiffer chassis, a new 5 link front suspension that seems to get rid of most if not all of the understeer known to previous Audis which makes it a better handling car, better and bigger brakes at all four corners with finally a nice 4 piston caliper system in the front, I think you are getting what is the best A4 ever performance wise not to mention a better interior, more interior room with a nice B&O sound system and a lighter car.

The B9 A4's 0 - 60 would have been considered "really fast" thirty years ago. Hell, the B9 A4 is going to have a hard time getting away from a 2012 Camry...

[Hamann]

An A4, barely under 6 seconds, for...what...$35,000? That's the BASE price. Knowing Audi, you'll have to pay $5,000 for Bluetooth and navigation.

The performance isn't much of a talking point, to be honest. In other words, it does what it should do at that price point. Essentially, you're getting a mid-level luxury sedan for the mid 30's that is barely faster than cars $10,000 less.

Yes, you're getting Quattro...getting the Audi badges, some nice seats and styling...but, you're paying for it. It's also perhaps one of the best looking sedans on the market. I'll give credit on their styling, for sure.

But, at 3500 lbs, not sure why there is a 190 hp version even available? That's gotta be in the low 7's.

[JDillon15]

But, at 3500 lbs, not sure why there is a 190 hp version even available? That's gotta be in the low 7's.

For people who want "the Audi badges, some nice seats and styling".

Although, I'm one of those people who want all of that and as much power as I can have (within my price range).

[hyperunion]

Correct on the new S4 and the Tiptronic and it sucks! I know a lot of people with B8 S4s with manuals that did not even want to wait for the B9 S4 when they found out that a manual would not be available and only a DSG/Stronic would come with the car. They were even more shocked when it was announced that it wouldn't even be the Stronic but back to the Tiptronic tranny in the S4... People just can't believe it.

I do not believe there is launch control on a Tiptronic tranny because it is after all a "regular" auto tranny with a torque converter.

Read here about the new S4 and its 8 speed Tiptronic...

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/20...-transmission/

But it's able to handle the hp and torque that this new 7 speed can't... No one complains about the 8 speed in the rs7... It's bulletproof.. The s7 'S dsg.... Not so much

[BlackSVT]

For anyone interested, this is a pretty good article on the ZF8
ZF8 Deep Dive
As a previously avowed manual-only, auto-despiser, I'm not going to dip into how it compares there, but behind the 3.0T and in "Launch Mode", it has some seriously impressive shift times for a non-DSG. It's actually closer to a DSG behind a torque converter (....locked for everything but 1st gear) than a traditional automatic. FWIW

[Hamann]

For people who want "the Audi badges, some nice seats and styling".

Although, I'm one of those people who want all of that and as much power as I can have (within my price range).

I just don't like when manufacturer's offer a car with a less than average engine. 190hp for a 3500lb car seems foolish...especially for that price. We should see an A4 priced at $25,995 with that engine..in my opinion.

[dalmation53]

I just don't like when manufacturer's offer a car with a less than average engine. 190hp for a 3500lb car seems foolish...especially for that price. We should see an A4 priced at $25,995 with that engine..in my opinion.

Yeah that way we see everybody with Audis and they won't be prestige anymore lol i like the high price tag. status buddy. i like that shit better put some respeck on it \. I ain't gonna say it no mo

[vwblackb5]

The B9 A4's 0 - 60 would have been considered "really fast" thirty years ago. Hell, the B9 A4 is going to have a hard time getting away from a 2012 Camry...

LOL

[cameraz]

According to a poster on AudiWorld, the latest Car & Driver magazine says the 2017 A4 does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds, and the quarter mile in 13.9 sec @ 100 mph.

Aside from an occasional street skirmish, I don't (track) race my car. But I have learned one thing: All things being equal, a car's horsepower and torque are only part of the equation. The driver is the other part. In my B8, I have beaten many other cars with V6s at a stoplight just because my reflexes are quicker. About a month ago I embarrassed the sh*t out of a BMW 330i owner.

So, if you plan to spend your time at the dragstrip, buy yourself a Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat. But if you enjoy a combination of luxury, speed and style, get a B9.

[AZT]

Nice to finally see an A4 now faster than the stock B5 S4.

[riegeraudi]

According to a poster on AudiWorld, the latest Car & Driver magazine says the 2017 A4 does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds, and the quarter mile in 13.9 sec @ 100 mph.

Aside from an occasional street skirmish, I don't (track) race my car. But I have learned one thing: All things being equal, a car's horsepower and torque are only part of the equation. The driver is the other part. In my B8, I have beaten many other cars with V6s at a stoplight just because my reflexes are quicker. About a month ago I embarrassed the sh*t out of a BMW 330i owner.

So, if you plan to spend your time at the dragstrip, buy yourself a Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat. But if you enjoy a combination of luxury, speed and style, get a B9.

A BMW 330i? The one with 184hp? The one with a 0-60 time of 6.1? The one with a 1/4 mile of 14.8 as tested by car and driver?
I would hope you beat it, and it would have nothing to do with reaction time.

[cameraz]

A BMW 330i? The one with 184hp? The one with a 0-60 time of 6.1? The one with a 1/4 mile of 14.8 as tested by car and driver?
I would hope you beat it, and it would have nothing to do with reaction time.

Um, are we talking about the same car? According to Car & Driver, the 2015 330i has 235 hp and 222 ft lbs of torque, and a standing 1/4-mile: 14.3 sec @ 97 mph

[Townending]

Um, are we talking about the same car? According to Car & Driver, the 2015 330i has 235 hp and 222 ft lbs of torque, and a standing 1/4-mile: 14.3 sec @ 97 mph

I found the 330e on BMW's website, but not the 330i

Specs for 330e:

2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo inline 4-cylinder, 16-valve 180-hp engine; combines a twin-scroll turbocharger with variable valve control (Double-VANOS and Valvetronic), high-precision direct injection and eDrive 76-hp electric motor. Total power output of 247 hp.

[Mpower2170]

Um, are we talking about the same car? According to Car & Driver, the 2015 330i has 235 hp and 222 ft lbs of torque, and a standing 1/4-mile: 14.3 sec @ 97 mph

Read the whole article. Then you'll notice it's over 10 years old and therefore talking about the older e36 style. BMW stopped production on the gasoline powered 330 in 2006 (I add gasoline powered, as they just recently released a plug in hybrid 330e).

So yes, I hope your B8 Audi A4 beat a BMW 3-series from probably 2002 or 2003