S7 bug

[kenphilly]

So I'm sure I am not the only A7 owner who said that the A7 was plenty of car no need for an S7!! After about 5 and a half months of ownership I now have the S7 bug! Honestly the 3.0 is sufficient power and I think my small desire for more power could and would be satisfied with a stage 2 tune. Where I do think the A7 lacks is on steering feel, body roll and overall handling. To those who have modded their A7 is this something that can be handled with mods and if so what is recommended? ***To note*** I already have the sports package with Sprite suspension(2014 A7 prestige sports package with 20 inch rims sitting on conti dws06 all seasons)

I am also wondering once the bill adds up for the tune and other mods to satisfy my needs is it just worth is to upgrade to an S7 VS paying for the mods!

Any recommendations would be helpful and also would love to hear from folks who went ahead and upgraded from the A7 to S7.

[VeryBadman]

Just a warning, if financial matter allows, you will have RS7 bug eventually. There is no concept of enough power!


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[kenphilly]

Just a warning, if financial matter allows, you will have RS7 bug eventually. There is no concept of enough power!
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Haha you know what's funny is when I got the A7 driving home(3 hours all highway) I'm like I don't need a tune this engine is great. Then months later I'm thinking about a tune or S7 so I am sure the RS7 bug will get me!

[Djpeaksd]

Just a warning, if financial matter allows, you will have RS7 bug eventually. There is no concept of enough power!


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Yes Verybadman is right! However the feel of a twin Turbo V8 never gets old and I think an S7 could get you feeling right with the world!

[luv2sleep]

You know what they say about money and power! A* to S* to RS* to R* to xxx to now what? When the kids are all out of the house (out of my pocket, really), I'm planning on getting a real 2 door beast whatever that my be, assuming that I can get in & out of such a car at that age.

[kenphilly]

You know what they say about money and power! A* to S* to RS* to R* to xxx to now what? When the kids are all out of the house (out of my pocket, really), I'm planning on getting a real 2 door beast whatever that my be, assuming that I can get in & out of such a car at that age.

Coming from a 24 year old, we(kids) will never be out of your pockets so just treat yourself now

[kenphilly]

Yes Verybadman is right! However the feel of a twin Turbo V8 never gets old and I think an S7 could get you feeling right with the world!

Agreed! I'm going to wait until the 2017's drop in the summer for the price on the 16's to go down. Although the 2017 A7 with competition package is very enticing I think a 2016 S7 low mileage will do.

[luv2sleep]

Coming from a 24 year old, we(kids) will never be out of your pockets so just treat yourself now

Damn kids! Wouldn't it be nice to just go out and buy the new R8 V10+!!! It's only the price of a home in the mid west. Oh honey, look what I brought home, as she slams the garage door in my face. It's just debt...good 'ol American way. Only if there's a way to get a second home tax write-off for a sports car!

[tonymission]

You know what they say about money and power! A* to S* to RS* to R* to xxx to now what? When the kids are all out of the house (out of my pocket, really), I'm planning on getting a real 2 door beast whatever that my be, assuming that I can get in & out of such a car at that age.

Can't wait to have a 2 door rocket at some point in my life... Porsche or Ferrari maybe. But three kids makes that impossible right now.

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But Ken...just get an RS7 dude. :P

[b6onboost]

You can improve the handling, but within limits. A big car will still drive like a big car. An S7/RS7 is still a luxury cruiser, not a canyon carver. Make sure you know what you're truly after.

[agent47]

So I'm sure I am not the only A7 owner who said that the A7 was plenty of car no need for an S7!! After about 5 and a half months of ownership I now have the S7 bug! Honestly the 3.0 is sufficient power and I think my small desire for more power could and would be satisfied with a stage 2 tune. Where I do think the A7 lacks is on steering feel, body roll and overall handling. To those who have modded their A7 is this something that can be handled with mods and if so what is recommended? ***To note*** I already have the sports package with Sprite suspension(2014 A7 prestige sports package with 20 inch rims sitting on conti dws06 all seasons)

I am also wondering once the bill adds up for the tune and other mods to satisfy my needs is it just worth is to upgrade to an S7 VS paying for the mods!

Any recommendations would be helpful and also would love to hear from folks who went ahead and upgraded from the A7 to S7.

Eurocode sway bars and lowering springs should get your handling improved. However, dont hold your fire on the tune since the 3.0T engine in the 2016 and later models is different. It has been around in European S4/5 since 2014 and no tuner has cracked the code to come up with a tune. Also like others said, the want for more power will never end. I have restrained myself from making any jumps in the near future unless it makes the perfect financial sense. Lol

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[eyeloveteeth]

i've said this many times before, even with the beefed up sways, this car was designed as a large fast back and hell it shows it. I do not believe even with it lowered/stiffened etc etc, while it will improve it, that "heavy feeling" will not go away entirely.

Case in point, my GT-R weighed pretty porky too, but it was set up from the beginning to be better and the whole car just has a different dynamic to it all.

The identity of this car IS a fastback family sedan that goes pretty fast (very fast). especially in the A7/S7/RS7. The seating position makes you feel like the car is way wider than the S6

[JoeCaMotto]

Just a warning, if financial matter allows, you will have RS7 bug eventually. There is no concept of enough power!


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+1000 I told my self you had enough fast cars now with two kids in college the A7 will suffice, but the I up graded to S7 and now looking for the right deal to up grade to RS7

[TurtleHaste]

With the Eurocode complete setup, I've heard some people have said the c7 platforms feel more aggressive than their Panameras. Just FYI


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[VeryBadman]

Haha you know what's funny is when I got the A7 driving home(3 hours all highway) I'm like I don't need a tune this engine is great. Then months later I'm thinking about a tune or S7 so I am sure the RS7 bug will get me!

Yes Verybadman is right! However the feel of a twin Turbo V8 never gets old and I think an S7 could get you feeling right with the world!

+1000 I told my self you had enough fast cars now with two kids in college the A7 will suffice, but the I up graded to S7 and now looking for the right deal to up grade to RS7

And even after you have RS7 and think you have enough power, you will want a tune to make more power! I thought that I was good with 560HP and then 1 and half years later (which considered long) I still got myself Unitronic tune to make even more power!

[mc52]

I know the feeing well. Bought an A6 prestige new in '14 and thought it was perfect. After about 6 months I new I should have went for the S6. Waited year and half and am now in a '16 S6.


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[VVG]

I don't want to start a fire here, but I honestly don't see the point of getting an S7. Here's why.....

With any amount of decent options you are looking at close to $100k. If you can afford $100k, you can afford $120k to get the RS7, so just get that instead. If you like the styling and maximum performance is not a major factor, the A7 is still plenty fast and a lot cheaper.

It is an entirely different story with the 6. The 6 is much cheaper than the 7 while essentially being the same car in many respects. Also, the RS6 is 1.) not available in the U.S. and 2.) a totally different body style than the S6.

Really wish there was an RS6 sedan

[luv2sleep]

Can't wait to have a 2 door rocket at some point in my life... Porsche or Ferrari maybe. But three kids makes that impossible right now.

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But Ken...just get an RS7 dude. :P

College x 3=No 2 door rocket. My sentiments exactly. Just think, no 3 kids=3 high end supercars! Teenagers....punishment for having sex.

[luv2sleep]

If you can afford $100k, you can afford $120k to get the RS7, so just get that instead.

This reminds me of upgrading to a bigger/more expensive home. It all looks good on paper until the payment stub shows up and buyer's remorse hits a few months later. Ah, it's just money. Just work harder and make more. We all have to feed the machine, right?!?!

[Djpeaksd]

I don't want to start a fire here, but I honestly don't see the point of getting an S7. Here's why.....

With any amount of decent options you are looking at close to $100k. If you can afford $100k, you can afford $120k to get the RS7, so just get that instead. If you like the styling and maximum performance is not a major factor, the A7 is still plenty fast and a lot cheaper.

It is an entirely different story with the 6. The 6 is much cheaper than the 7 while essentially being the same car in many respects. Also, the RS6 is 1.) not available in the U.S. and 2.) a totally different body style than the S6.

Really wish there was an RS6 sedan

I just don't agree with this at all! I love my S7 but would feel really uncomfortable paying for an RS7. Plus with a tune I have same HP as an RS for $25K cheaper!!

[VVG]

I just don't agree with this at all! I love my S7 but would feel really uncomfortable paying for an RS7. Plus with a tune I have same HP as an RS for $25K cheaper!!

An RS7 is more than just the tune. The suspension is calibrated differently, the engine is built differently, the brakes are different, the bodywork is different, etc, etc, etc. You would have to put in way more than $25k in mods to get you an RS7 from an S7.

Also, when you factor in cost over the life of the car, and depreciation (likely less on the RS7), the RS7 isn't much more expensive overall. Now...if the RS7 came only as a loaded up car, with ceramic brakes, etc as standard, and now you are looking at $150k, that is a different story.

[Js59]

I just don't agree with this at all! I love my S7 but would feel really uncomfortable paying for an RS7. Plus with a tune I have same HP as an RS for $25K cheaper!!

I agree with this 100%. I did the same thing. Could I afford an RS7? Yes. But would I feel good about dropping the extra 25k+ on it when I can just get an S7 and a tune for $1,500 and have a car that is similar in terms of performance? NO!!

Also, I thought that APR's site showed significant gains with the A6 3.0?? Maybe i looked at the wrong thing???

[luv2sleep]

Uh oh, here comes the S vs. RS powow.
Here's my limited observation. A heavily modded S model can come very close to a RS model but you quickly approach the point of diminishing return. At the end of the day, a S7 will never be a RS7, performance wise and otherwise. It's the same with a A6/A7 vs. S6/S7. There is a reason why people pay a premium for the RS7. The question is, is it worth the extra $20k+? That's really up the individual. I admire the RS7 because it approaches the supercar territory in a straight line, at least the 0-60 performance. If I'm that close, me personally, I'd go all out and buy a supercar if I can afford it. $ is almost always the culprit in my case. As other posters have said, I wish there was a RS6 sedan option.

[Djpeaksd]

An RS7 is more than just the tune. The suspension is calibrated differently, the engine is built differently, the brakes are different, the bodywork is different, etc, etc, etc. You would have to put in way more than $25k in mods to get you an RS7 from an S7.

Also, when you factor in cost over the life of the car, and depreciation (likely less on the RS7), the RS7 isn't much more expensive overall. Now...if the RS7 came only as a loaded up car, with ceramic brakes, etc as standard, and now you are looking at $150k, that is a different story.

Obviously it's more then a tune! I looked at some CPO'd ones but really wanted the 2016 update an the RS7 was just more money then I wanted to spend so I got an S7. Will I end up in an RS7? Yeah I'm sure I will.

[Sd76]

Same boat. Had an A6 prestige wanted a 7! Got rear ended so obviously I said time to upgrade to the 7!! Now I have a 3 yo and a 10 month old so I said I can't be selfish so get the A7 and be satisfied had a 16' since mid September and now I can only think about the S7 bc I want coils and wheels and cold air intake lol. Add that up and I should of got the s7 to begin with! Kids! Lol. Making adults act responsibly (((( banging head)))!!!


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[kenphilly]

I don't want to start a fire here, but I honestly don't see the point of getting an S7. Here's why.....

With any amount of decent options you are looking at close to $100k. If you can afford $100k, you can afford $120k to get the RS7, so just get that instead. If you like the styling and maximum performance is not a major factor, the A7 is still plenty fast and a lot cheaper.

It is an entirely different story with the 6. The 6 is much cheaper than the 7 while essentially being the same car in many respects. Also, the RS6 is 1.) not available in the U.S. and 2.) a totally different body style than the S6.

Really wish there was an RS6 sedan

Interesting points. But I can comfortably say that 100k is out of range, just not what I would drop on a vehicle right now lol if I did an S7 it would be low mileage preowned same as I did with my current A7. I think personally the S7 would fill all the voids I currently feel(yea just like I said upgrading from a Maxima to an A7 would) but none the less I think the mistake I made was telling myself I didn't need an S7 which in turn kept me from even test driving one before pulling the trigger on the A7. This has certainly become an interesting thread of opinions and venting by the car vs kids folks lol!!

[Winterk80]

Join the dark side and just get an RS7 already!



Jump in the water's fine

[audi12345678]

So I'm sure I am not the only A7 owner who said that the A7 was plenty of car no need for an S7!! After about 5 and a half months of ownership I now have the S7 bug! Honestly the 3.0 is sufficient power and I think my small desire for more power could and would be satisfied with a stage 2 tune. Where I do think the A7 lacks is on steering feel, body roll and overall handling. To those who have modded their A7 is this something that can be handled with mods and if so what is recommended? ***To note*** I already have the sports package with Sprite suspension(2014 A7 prestige sports package with 20 inch rims sitting on conti dws06 all seasons)

I am also wondering once the bill adds up for the tune and other mods to satisfy my needs is it just worth is to upgrade to an S7 VS paying for the mods!

Any recommendations would be helpful and also would love to hear from folks who went ahead and upgraded from the A7 to S7.

I had tuned A6 3.0 TFSI, now I have S7 with tune and the difference is very big, the 4.0T V8 is much more fun, it just goes when you hit the pedal.

[Demandred]

Join the dark side and just get an RS7 already!




Jump in the water's fine

looks super clean and sexy

[b6onboost]

I don't see the point of the RS7 aside from 'flagship RS status'.

People tend to shop in specific price points. Loaded A7s and minimally optioned S7s are within $10k of each other. So if you're around that price point you have a decision to make. The RS7 is significantly more expensive which could easily be outside the realm of responsible affordability. Plus crossing the 3 digit barrier is a hurdle for a lot of people mentally, not only in nominal terms but also in terms of 'if I'm spending $100k+ I'm buying something more special than an Audi.'

I see value in spending a little (relatively) more on an S7 over an loaded A7...but I'd never even consider an RS7 even if money didn't matter.

]I don't want to start a fire here, but I honestly don't see the point of getting an S7. Here's why.....If you can afford $100k, you can afford $120k to get the RS7

[audi12345678]

I don't see the point of the RS7 aside from 'flagship RS status'.

People tend to shop in specific price points. Loaded A7s and minimally optioned S7s are within $10k of each other. So if you're around that price point you have a decision to make. The RS7 is significantly more expensive which could easily be outside the realm of responsible affordability. Plus crossing the 3 digit barrier is a hurdle for a lot of people mentally, not only in nominal terms but also in terms of 'if I'm spending $100k+ I'm buying something more special than an Audi.'

I see value in spending a little (relatively) more on an S7 over an loaded A7...but I'd never even consider an RS7 even if money didn't matter.

I agree with you, one friend has got rs7 and the difference between my tuned S7 is very small, yes the Rs7 looks more mean and badass and steers little bit better but it's never worth the extra 20 000 Eur.

[VVG]

I don't see the point of the RS7 aside from 'flagship RS status'.

People tend to shop in specific price points. Loaded A7s and minimally optioned S7s are within $10k of each other. So if you're around that price point you have a decision to make. The RS7 is significantly more expensive which could easily be outside the realm of responsible affordability. Plus crossing the 3 digit barrier is a hurdle for a lot of people mentally, not only in nominal terms but also in terms of 'if I'm spending $100k+ I'm buying something more special than an Audi.'

I see value in spending a little (relatively) more on an S7 over an loaded A7...but I'd never even consider an RS7 even if money didn't matter.

I disagree. The car is simply engineered to a different level in many different ways. As far as something "more special than an Audi", what else is there in this price class if you are looking for a large 4-door performance sedan. You have the BMW, Audi, Merc equivalents, which are, well, equivalent; and you have Jaguar. The Porsche Panamera is at a different price point yet again for comparable performance, and there is Bentley which is in a different class yet again pricewise.

[HeelBuff]

As soon as you whip a 911 turbo S at a stoplight then you'll know your tuned RS was the only way to go.

[VeryBadman]

Are we getting into the argument that people buy RS7 for baller status again?


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[agent47]

Are we getting in the argument that people buy RS7 for baller status again?


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Looks like it

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[cschuster]

RS7 would be awesome, but if I'm spending 100k, it will be on a 2009-2012 Aston Martin V12 Rapide/Vantage/DB9

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[eyeloveteeth]

RS7 would be awesome, but if I'm spending 100k, it will be on a 2009-2012 Aston Martin V12 Rapide/Vantage/DB9

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V12 that's slow?

#fanningtheflames

[Winterk80]

Thanks demandred! I set a goal 4 years ago when I saw it at CES, started saving, hit the goal, and rewarded myself with it 4 years later. I bought it used 7 months old, Audi certified 6 year warranty with Audi Care included for $25k less than the new price, closer to 30k off if you count the value of the extended audi certified warranty and audi care. Better than buying it new in my opinion, better warranty and previous owner loaded it out buying more features than I would have.

It doesn't seem so ridiculous or irresponsible put in that context does it?

Set a goal work hard and achieve it.

[hubris]

Thanks demandred! I set a goal 4 years ago when I saw it at CES, started saving, hit the goal, and rewarded myself with it 4 years later. I bought it used 7 months old, Audi certified 6 year warranty with Audi Care included for $25k less than the new price, closer to 30k off if you count the value of the extended audi certified warranty and audi care. Better than buying it new in my opinion, better warranty and previous owner loaded it out buying more features than I would have.

It doesn't seem so ridiculous or irresponsible put in that context does it?

Set a goal work hard and achieve it.

Wow that is a steal!! How long did you shop for a deal before you stumbled upon that one?

Value is relative. While the RS7 additional engineering and mechanical brawn is worth it to some, it is a 20% increase in price. Clearly some see the value and can justify the extra 20%, while some cannot. It all comes down to what fits your needs and what you can afford. And of course, most significantly, what the wife says is okay.

[Demandred]

from someone that has owned

S4, RS5, S6 and RS6 - there is certainly a difference between the S and RS versions in many areas, as you guys have mentioned. To say a tuned S is almost as quick as a normal RS is almost like saying a tuned rice rocket or supped up Golf R are the same level.... they just aren't. My friend has a RS7 and every time i get into it, it makes me miss the pure grunt and power that was my RS6 sedan. Also hard pressed to go past the saftey etc of the quattro system when comparing it other "performance" cars like the Aston etc.

RS's may not be for everyone, but if you can find one for the right money I doubt there would be many that would be happy with it