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    S3 Spring Comparison! H&R Sports, Emmanuele Design, VWR

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    All measurements were taken with the same tape measure, in my own garage.
    The car is a 2015 Audi S3, standard suspension -NON-mag ride. My ride quality is comparable to dynamic mode in a mag ride car.

    Tire and Wheel Package:
    245/35/19x8.5, I run both et 43 and et 47.


    GTF (ground to fender) Measurements:

    H&R Sport Springs:
    25 3/8" all around
    never rubbed with et 43

    Emmanuele Design Springs:
    Front 25 1/4"
    Rear 25 3/8"
    never rubbed with et 43

    VWR Springs:
    25" all around
    To my knowledge, these are the second set of VWR lowering springs to be installed on an S3, in the states.
    The car was sitting too low. VWR has responded to me quickly.
    They will be updating this kit.
    see post 51 and 54


    My 1-10 ratings are based on the fact that I'm simply adding springs to a car without changing the struts or sways!!!

    *These are only my opinions. And I'm not a scientist or expert in any way!



    This image above, is of all three front springs.
    The front H&R & VWR are very similar. However, you really have to concentrate on them.
    To me, the front VWR is hybrid. The H&R is more progressive.
    The rear H&R is definitely progressive.
    The rear VWR is definitely hybrid.
    The ED springs are both linear.



    H&R Sport Springs (progressive design)

    These springs are specific to the S3

    I had the H&R on my car for roughly 8,000 miles of spirited and daily driving.
    They handle great. But are they a good match for our dampers? Probably not. They can be bouncy.
    some folks in our community feel that if our dampers were better, these progressive springs would be incredible.
    others feel that these springs handle so well, the bounce is not a big deal, it's a fair trade-off.

    ride height: 10/10
    slight rake to level
    ride height is sublime, some think the rear sits slightly higher - giving the car a slight rake. some days I saw this, some days I didn't. either way, nobody has ever complained about the way these cars sit on mag ride or not.
    anyone who wants moar low, should see H&R's Super Sport springs, which sit lower. Are they stiffer? Or just lower? Not sure.

    steering: 10/10
    steering input is direct and confidence inspiring.
    turn-in is good. (oem turn-in is poor).

    comfort: 6/10
    the car handled big bumps like a sports car, it wasn't terrible at all, just a little stiff. however, smaller imperfections and bumps, the car would bounce a bit too much for my liking. this is probably ok for some of you, it's a very subjective thing.
    if you have mag-ride, you want to drive in "auto" mode for an extensive period of time and get a good feel for it, then compare it comfort mode. you may prefer "auto" for d2d driving.
    *see below for more info on mag-ride and H&R Sports

    handling: 10/10
    winner winner chicken dinner.
    the car felt amazing with the H&R sports. forget how an S car should handle, it now felt like it handled the way an RS car would handle.
    the car now handled a lot better than a 335 would handle.
    for anyone who did a rear sway bar (RSB) at the same time as these springs, awesome, I'm sure your car is a dream to drive. but this chassis really only needs these springs to handle well enough for spirited driving. it stays very planted and flat. the highway feel is amazing. twisties the same.
    I had incredible confidence when driving the S3 with these springs, even without a RSB.
    In twisties, on car club cruises, I easily outran numerous (heavier) tuned S4's which were on coilovers. You can run wild with these springs.

    *there is also a "pogo effect" that folks with mag-ride mention. you should do your own research on it. I don't know if there is a defective part on some of the mag cars, that make some of the H&R mag-ride cars ride like shit? Because some mag-ride cars love this combination. And you would think that a "pogo effect" would keep them from pleading their blinding allegiance to these springs. So perhaps this isn't a consistent issue? I think a "pogo effect" would be more than a subjective thing, right?

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    ^ H&R Sport springs 245/35/19x8.5 et 47 on Conti DW (summer tires)
    you can see there is a slight rake
    sits very nicely IMO





    Emmanuele Design Springs (ED) (linear design - like oem)

    These springs will fit an A3/S3

    I had the ED springs on my car for roughly 250 miles of spirited and daily driving.
    There was an issue with the initial run of the front springs.
    The top coil or two was collapsing into the next spring. The tires were rubbing on the fender wells, up front.
    To the early adopters, the folks who were not speaking up about this issue, you let dozens of others go ahead and install the springs (knowing there was an issue) - shame on you.

    Thomas (the owner of ED) handled it professionally and quickly. He soon had a new set of springs out to me.
    He also sent a durable pad that is inserted on top of the OEM pad, between the OEM pad and the body.
    This pad will give the car more rake, similar to the H&R springs, maybe slightly better.

    ride height: 8/10 without the rear pad. 10/10 after the correction (with provided pad)
    level without rear pad. slight rake with the pad.
    some think the rear sits slightly lower (without the pad) - giving the car a backwards rake. some say it's fine. I realize that our fenders are lower in the back, creating an illusion.
    with the revised front springs and the rear pad, the ride height looks to be perfect.

    steering: 8/10
    steering input is not as direct and not as confidence inspiring as H&R.
    turn-in is MUCH better than stock, but not as good as H&R.

    comfort: 10/10
    the car didn't have the same bounce over slight and small imperfections, as it did with H&R.
    the S3 is simply more comfortable to live with - while riding on these springs.

    handling: 7/10
    the car felt pretty good, in a "good for oem" sort of way... the way an S car should come from the factory. not quite RS territory. a 335 would easily out-handle my car while it was on ED springs. too much body roll.
    for anyone who did a rear sway bar (RSB) at the same time as these springs (or prior), awesome, I'm sure your car handled a lot better than mine did. these springs are more comfortable for a reason, they are not as stiff as H&R.
    While the car stayed planted and flat from "NORMAL speeds" to the beginning of aggressive driving, if you PUSH a car (like me) the springs will text message you, telling you to get a RSB.
    highway feel is good, not as good as with H&R, another indication that a RSB would be a worth while investment here.
    twisties feel good, especially compared with stock - but not good enough to confidently run wild.

    Purchased from - Emmanuele Design
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    Customer Service - excellent +++ wow!




    VWR Springs (hybrid design)

    Be aware there are both Golf R springs and S3/RS3 kits from VWR
    I have the S3/RS3 version (obviously)


    While the R springs have been out for a little while, the S3/RS3 springs arrived at VWR (Alabama) on Tuesday April 6, 2016.
    They drop shipped orders (for USP Motorsports) as soon as Wednesday. I received mine Friday (2 day shipping to PA).

    They are almost exactly what I hoping they'd be
    I was anticipating that the ride quality would be ideal, handling would be good, and ride height would be similar to a touch higher than H&R Sports.
    The only thing that I was wrong about, is the ride height. And it's a big surprise.
    My car is slammed! It sits lower with these springs than it does with the other two sets I've had.
    They claim 20-30mm drop. I think it's more.

    ride height: n/a springs were recalled

    steering: 9/10
    steering input is direct and confidence inspiring.
    turn-in is good.

    comfort: 9/10
    the car handles big bumps very well. good rebound now. over smaller imperfections and bumps, the car has a more controlled bounce, when compared with H&R.
    I can easy live with the comfort these springs provide, on a day to day basis.
    aside from the issues. which I assume they'll figure out.

    handling: preliminary score (not enough miles) 9.5/10
    Pretty much the same as H&R Sports, maybe a tick below.
    You can run wild with these springs, aside from the issue.
    My theory is that the H&R Sports are stiffer, but I'm lower now, on these VWR springs. So the effect is that both springs handle really well. But only one of them are super comfortable.
    How can these springs handle so well, while being so comfortable?

    Purchased from - USP Motorsports
    Shipping - lightning fast, once they arrived at port!
    Customer Service with USP - not much contact, n/a
    Customer Service with VWR now that I'm dealing with an issue:
    VWR USA - good, super fast communication, helpful
    VWR UK - good - anxious to assist.


    ^one image here of the VWR springs (several more in a post 4-5 posts below)
    and then on the next page, after the springs settled.


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    Notes:

    I had my car aligned 500 miles after installing the H&R springs, back in 2015. I then drove the car approx 8,000 miles. Then installed the ED springs. Drove the car for around 3 weeks. And then installed the VWR springs.
    I have not yet done a second alignment.
    Once I have 250-500 miles on the springs that I'm going to settle with, I'll get an alignment done.
    The timing is good, hopefully all the roads will be repaired by then.
    And I would prefer to have the alignment done while my winter setup is on (S4 Peelers).



    Summary:

    There is no perfect spring.

    With the mk6 Golf R, you could just put VWR springs on it and call it a day. It was perfect ride height for a DD. Good ride, handling was good. Wait, it wasn't firm enough, so most of us went and added a RSB.

    On our S3's, you have a few options now. With the H&R sport springs, they are so stiff, you really don't need a RSB unless you autocross or track your car. The height is probably perfect for a DD.

    You next option is to go the route of the old VWR springs on the mk6 R, get both the ED springs and a RSB. It'll be a good combination of comfort and handling.

    If you want firm handling, while maintaining great ride quality, you'll have to wait and see what becomes of the new VWR springs.

    There is a fourth option, but I've never owned the springs. H&R Super Sports. I imagine they'll be slammed at 25", while having dynamic handling like H&R Sports, and the bounce of the H&R Sports.

    You have options.
    I wish you luck and hope this helps in some way.
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    Great review. Glad my H&R Sports are on their way.


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    Any pictures with the VWR springs installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepang_S3 View Post
    Any pictures with the VWR springs installed?
    1 or 2 in my Instagram feed.... Ryebreadpics


    edit to add: posted quality pics below!
    Last edited by RyanS3; 04-10-2016 at 07:13 PM.

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    Nice review!

    I also went from H&R Sports on mag-ride car. The H&R's deteriorated over months in terms of ride quality to a point where they intolerable. My installer told me he has had multiple cases of this with the H&R's on the MQB platform. His theory was that the progressive spring loses its spring rates and when this happens the ride quality is drastically compromised and possible damage to shocks.

    I too went through the 2 revisions of the ED springs. (I was also annoyed that after 2 weeks of the ED springs being installed I was the first to report the coil grinding issues). I find the handling of the ED springs comparable to the H&R's, although I do have the H&R RSB. Perhaps the H&R were a 9/10, while the ED are a 8/10 for handling. I have a track day this week, so will know more then. Comfort and improved damping on mag-ride is fantastic on the ED springs and for me well worth the 1/10th trade off in handling. I am yet to install the rear spacer.

    Will be interesting to see if the VWR springs also deteriorate over time in comfort like the H&R & Eibach progressive springs do. @RyanS3 why don't you fit and RSB?
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    Here are the additional images from the VWR springs.












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    I have the ED springs (v2) with the rear spacers installed. They feel as comfortable, if not more, than stock. Body roll is still there, but certainly reduced. In addition, the car seems to hold the road better over potholes, bumps, etc. Overall, very pleased with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner_oz View Post
    Nice review!

    I also went from H&R Sports on mag-ride car. The H&R's deteriorated over months in terms of ride quality to a point where they intolerable. My installer told me he has had multiple cases of this with the H&R's on the MQB platform. His theory was that the progressive spring loses its spring rates and when this happens the ride quality is drastically compromised and possible damage to shocks.

    I too went through the 2 revisions of the ED springs. (I was also annoyed that after 2 weeks of the ED springs being installed I was the first to report the coil grinding issues). I find the handling of the ED springs comparable to the H&R's, although I do have the H&R RSB. Perhaps the H&R were a 9/10, while the ED are a 8/10 for handling. I have a track day this week, so will know more then. Comfort and improved damping on mag-ride is fantastic on the ED springs and for me well worth the 1/10th trade off in handling. I am yet to install the rear spacer.

    Will be interesting to see if the VWR springs also deteriorate over time in comfort like the H&R & Eibach progressive springs do. @RyanS3 why don't you fit and RSB?
    Thank you for posting your findings and thoughts. We are lucky to have you in the community.

    I just never really needed a RSB after feeling the handling of the H&R in combination with the 245s and wider wheels. It felt good enough for me. This may be a sign that I'm no longer 25. I remember having a RSB on my A3 and my Golf R. Really buttons everything up. But also throws the car around, when you hit bumps. Also, reduces the ability to keep the tires on the ground in off camber situations. But really, no big deal, I'm just making excuses and highlighting the cons of a RSB. To be honest, I know I should just get one.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanS3 View Post
    Thank you for posting your findings and thoughts. We are lucky to have you in the community.

    I just never really needed a RSB after feeling the handling of the H&R in combination with the 245s and wider wheels. It felt good enough for me. This may be a sign that I'm no longer 25. I remember having a RSB on my A3 and my Golf R. Really buttons everything up. But also throws the car around, when you hit bumps. Also, reduces the ability to keep the tires on the ground in off camber situations. But really, no big deal, I'm just making excuses and highlighting the cons of a RSB. To be honest, I know I should just get one.

    Cheers
    I found the RSB also dialled out some of the u/s. I did the H&R springs and RSB at the same time, so difficult to isolate the individual effects.
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    That stance is absolutely perfect! VWR nailed it, hopefully the ride quality holds and doesn't shit the bed like H&R. I'll be ordering these when my S3 gets here in May

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    since it's sitting low how will it impact magride and alignment?
    Do you need camber adjustment plates?

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    Excellent thread. I have H&Rs sitting in my garage and I'm glad I haven't installed them yet. To me the car looks great with the VWRs. I had them on my mk7 gti and while it didn't have dcc or mag ride they rode great. My S3 has mag ride so I'm interested in how they hold up with it. I could be putting my boxed H&Rs up for sale and buying some VWRs again.

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    Shame about the VWR height. I'll have to see what other mag ride guys say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tateltot View Post
    Shame about the VWR height. I'll have to see what other mag ride guys say.
    Agreed. Seems like if you run VWR, you may have rubbing issues if you try to flush everything up with spacers. Drop might be just a bit too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah787 View Post
    Agreed. Seems like if you run VWR, you may have rubbing issues if you try to flush everything up with spacers. Drop might be just a bit too much.
    I don't use spacers, my 8.5 wheels are et45. Looks like these VWR springs are equivalent to the Neuspeed in height (.75-1"). I was hoping for .5". I think the stock height is nearly perfect.

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    dat VWR drop tho. almost makes me want to go a touch lower now. lol.

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    Need some more 411....

    Looking for someone with standard suspension S3 to measure their GTF . Post what size tires and wheels you're running as well. Ideally, we'll get the GTF measurement for both 18" and 19" setups.

    Looking for someone with 19" and VWR and mag ride, to post their GTF and wheel/tire sizes.*


    *And also let us know if you are running the R springs or the S3/RS3 springs. There is a guy who is running the R springs on an S3, it sounds like his car doesn't sit as low as mine. The R springs are taller than the S3/RS3.

    Cheers

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    H&R reports a lower drop with mag-ride cars. I hope my mag-ride equipped car isn't lower than this because these are the springs I ordered.

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    Pretty sure the cars end up the same height, the mag ride seems to begin at a higher height than the non mag ride.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba Ho-Tep View Post
    H&R reports a lower drop with mag-ride cars. I hope my mag-ride equipped car isn't lower than this because these are the springs I ordered.
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    Cars with Mag Ride on other springs tend to be slightly lower. I am actually interested in the VWR springs now since I actually want my car a bit lower than it is on the H&R Super Sports.
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    How can that be? My mag ride S3 rides alot higher than Ryans non mag ride.

    My FTG bone stock on mag ride is: 26 5/8" Front and 26 1/8" Rear, 1/4 tank of gas, car otherwise empty.




    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    Cars with Mag Ride on other springs tend to be slightly lower. I am actually interested in the VWR springs now since I actually want my car a bit lower than it is on the H&R Super Sports.
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    Update: I wouldn't place an order for the VWR yet, IF you plan on running 245 tires and/or aftermarket wheels.

    I need to drive the car some more.

    Something is happening up front.
    Doesn't sound like the tire is rubbing when the car leans.
    It sounds more like a thud, like the entire tire is hitting the top of the wheel well/fender area.
    This happens when I am at moderate to high speed, and I hit a wide section of uneven road.
    or when I'm in a decent twisty and the road has any kind of bump in it.

    I want to get a second opinion on this.

    @JimmyDever lunch tomorrow or Wednesday?

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    Damn dude. Yea I'm down.



    Quote Originally Posted by RyanS3 View Post
    Update: I wouldn't place an order for the VWR yet, IF you plan on running 245 tires and/or aftermarket wheels.

    I need to drive the car some more.

    Something is happening up front.
    Doesn't sound like the tire is rubbing when the car leans.
    It sounds more like a thud, like the entire tire is hitting the top of the wheel well/fender area.
    This happens when I am at moderate to high speed, and I hit a wide section of uneven road.
    or when I'm in a decent twisty and the road has any kind of bump in it.

    I want to get a second opinion on this.

    @JimmyDever lunch tomorrow or Wednesday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDever View Post
    How can that be? My mag ride S3 rides alot higher than Ryans non mag ride.

    My FTG bone stock on mag ride is: 26 5/8" Front and 26 1/8" Rear, 1/4 tank of gas, car otherwise empty.
    According to H&R, a non mag ride car sees a drop of 1" with the super sport springs. And with mag ride a 1.2-1.3" drop with the same springs. I have yet to measure my FTG on my mag ride car though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba Ho-Tep View Post
    H&R reports a lower drop with mag-ride cars. I hope my mag-ride equipped car isn't lower than this because these are the springs I ordered.
    Yes H&R Sports dropped my mag-ride car 0.75" while the ED is about the same at the rear, but a fraction higher (~0.2") up front. I need to install the rear pad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanS3 View Post
    Update: I wouldn't place an order for the VWR yet, IF you plan on running 245 tires and/or aftermarket wheels.

    I need to drive the car some more.

    Something is happening up front.
    Doesn't sound like the tire is rubbing when the car leans.
    It sounds more like a thud, like the entire tire is hitting the top of the wheel well/fender area.
    This happens when I am at moderate to high speed, and I hit a wide section of uneven road.
    or when I'm in a decent twisty and the road has any kind of bump in it.

    I want to get a second opinion on this.

    @JimmyDever lunch tomorrow or Wednesday?
    Draw some chalk lines/marks on your inner fender. This will highlight if/where it is touching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDever View Post
    How can that be? My mag ride S3 rides alot higher than Ryans non mag ride.

    My FTG bone stock on mag ride is: 26 5/8" Front and 26 1/8" Rear, 1/4 tank of gas, car otherwise empty.
    Mag ride drop is usually 40% more, than non-mag ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner_oz View Post
    Mag ride drop is usually 40% more, than non-mag ride

    Then this run of VWR springs should not be installed in a MAG ride car. No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanS3 View Post
    Then this run of VWR springs should not be installed in a MAG ride car. No way.
    Just going by what the H&R and Eibachs state for drops. For example H&R Sports advertise drop mag-ride 0.75" and 0.5" for non-mag ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanS3 View Post
    Then this run of VWR springs should not be installed in a MAG ride car. No way.
    I just measured my car with H&R Super Sports and mag ride. I am sitting at 25 3/8 F and 25 1/2 Rear. that is just about where you were on H&R Sports, so maybe Mag Ride doesn't ride lower like I heard.

    I am also on 245/35/19's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    I just measured my car with H&R Super Sports and mag ride. I am sitting at 25 3/8 F and 25 1/2 Rear. that is just about where you were on H&R Sports, so maybe Mag Ride doesn't ride lower like I heard.

    I am also on 245/35/19's.
    It is lower on mag-ride!... see these all stipulate lower for mag-ride. Tires, pressures etc all come into play.
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    I guess the question is, are mag ride cars higher, lower, or the same as non mag ride cars in stock form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI View Post
    I guess the question is, are mag ride cars higher, lower, or the same as non mag ride cars in stock form?
    Here it is difficult to tell as all mag-ride come with 19" wheels, while non-mag with 18", so gives the visual impression of less drop. Are the OE springs different part numbers?
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    both my 2015 and 2016 S3's have mad-ride and are on H&R Super Sports with 235/35/19. The GTF on both of them are 25 1/8 in the front and a tad above 25" (maybe 25 1/16) in the rear.

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    Thanks for the great review. I am installing HR Sports spring on my S3 with magride next week.

    Excited!

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    Ryan, did you keep the ED springs or did you return them? Plan on getting a set for the wifes car here soon, wasnt sure if you returned them or have them for sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewvu514 View Post
    both my 2015 and 2016 S3's have mad-ride and are on H&R Super Sports with 235/35/19. The GTF on both of them are 25 1/8 in the front and a tad above 25" (maybe 25 1/16) in the rear.
    hmm that's a half inch lower than my car. I have 245's, but still that should only affect the ride height by about 3.5mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 15WhiteA3 View Post
    Ryan, did you keep the ED springs or did you return them? Plan on getting a set for the wifes car here soon, wasnt sure if you returned them or have them for sale.
    you can pick them up from me in KOP. Actually, I'll go as far as West Chester (downingtown exit of the turnpike for you). But I need to know for sure by the end of the week, thank you.

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