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    Exclamation New Product Release | Eurocode Tuning | ÜSS Sway Bar Upgrade for the MQB 8V A3 & S3

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    Eurocode Tuning is proud to offer the ultimate sway bar upgrade for the Volkswagen MK7 MQB Golf, GTI and Golf R and Audi 8V FWD A3 and AWD S3 & RS3 Quattro.




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    Eurocode ÜSS Front & Rear Adjustable Stabilizer Bar Set - MQB - AWD

    MSRP $399.98 Sales Pricing $339.98







    Eurocode ÜSS Front & Rear Adjustable Stabilizer Bar Set - MQB - FWD

    MSRP $399.98 Sales Pricing $339.98


    Building upon the phenomenal success we have enjoyed with our B8, C7 & 8R Audi ÜSS program, our goal was to also provide the finest setup for the MQB chassis.

    To achieve equal results, our team has purchased a MK7 GTI, Golf R, A3 and S3 for in-house development. We have found that it is important to own the vehicles in order to perform long term R&D testing, which allows us to maximize performance benefits.

    As most of you have experienced, the MQB chassis is quite different than anything VAG has previously released. The MQB handling is pretty darn good right out of the gate, therefore, quite a bit of design went into each and every component in both computer modeling as well as rapid prototyping.

    Because we own the cars, drive the cars and are true enthusiasts, we never release a product until we feel it is the best!

    Customer feedback is very important to us. We were thrilled one day when a customer stated that after installing our MQB strut tower and chassis brace, it was like “adding a sport mode 2 button” to the MQB.

    Objective feedback is great, however, we are one of those old school number types, so we always test our products against the competition. To achieve this, we compared each of our sway bar prototypes against three other major sway bar “mass production” companies.

    Track times, ride quality, chassis predictability and tire degradation were considered. Ultimately we chose to release what we feel is the finest stabilizer bar set available.

    Each year we enter automotive magazine shootouts. We do this to benchmark the performance of our products against the rest of the industry. In the 2015 European Car Golf Tuner GP, which was published January 2016, we entered our development GTI and Golf R, outfitted with our MQB Uberlings Stabilizer System, front upper strut brace, rear chassis brace, transmission tunnel brace and transmission mount insert. The chassis improvements were instrumental in overcoming limitations of street tires on the track, securing a podium finish for both cars.

    European Car magazine provided a completely stock 2015 Golf R as a “control vehicle” for the Tuner GP. The control vehicle with driver Boris Said was able to put down some very respectable lap times, with their best measure coming in at 1 minute, 19.331 seconds. With our chassis improvements our Golf R lap times improved by nearly 2 seconds to 1 minute 17.478 seconds at stock power levels. Our MK7 FWD GTI also bested the lap times of the control Golf R, coming in at 1 minute, 19.086 seconds. The best part is that our MK7 GOLF R had a completely “STOCK” ECU calibration as 2016 software had yet to be released!!

    Check out the results from the 2015 European Car Golf Tuner GP HERE.


    Quote Originally Posted by David Sarabi View Post

    With the EuroCode ÜSS MQB suspension suite (sway bars, links, arms, chassis brace and forthcoming adjustable camber plates, our aim was to develop a product which would be superior to anything currently on the market. The first thing we did was purchase a VW MK7 GTI/Golf R and 8V Audi A3/S3 to build the ground foundation on.

    This meant not being first to release the product, and spending an enormous amount of time testing the vehicle with various configurations on several tracks. We purchased three of the most popular products currently on the market and set times lap after lap using those, as well as three different sets of our prototype bars.

    What we found, is that while all made an excellent off the shelf product using linearly increased bar tensions, they did not maximize the handling capabilities of the newly redesigned MQB.

    We also found during our testing, and to our surprise, that the “right” front bar was necessary to keep the front end from being loose, however, its tension should not be increased in a linear fashion both in the front and rear, as many had done with their product. The “old skool” rear bar only mentality on a fwd/awd car due to a heavy nose was no longer a part of the program.

    Our testing proved that the front bar was equally as critical as the rear in the MQB on both FWD and AWD vehicles, and that the key to dialing this car in is long term testing and ownership of R&D vehicles. Not hypothetical values and test fitment. This hypothetical value/test fitment strategy used by many of the big names releasing products for 100+ applications means an average product in many cases. One thing to note is that the outer diameter (OD) of any tubular bar does not indicate its strength, but rather the inner diameter (ID). This means that although our bar may have the same OD of other bars, our ID is different. This allows us to control how much increase went to the front, while still maintaining the balance and reducing almost all of the push on both FWD and AWD vehicles. The 3 adjustable points in the front allow you to dial in the bar based on the requirements of the driver/track even further.

    I have personally piloted these cars and have managed times at a local track under 2 seconds off of a 991 GT3, which I also had the privilege to pilot. This is the most mind blowing part about this chassis when you consider that you can have a 25-35K car that delivers 150K car performance.

    The moral of this story is that the previously unheard of front bar use is required in the “right” tension, and that if you don’t own the car, test the car with your product versus the others, you don’t know if your product is the absolute best on the market.

    One thing is for sure, we have achieved our goal to produce a product that not only leaves the competition in the dust, but makes the MQB chassis application one super-car level competitive beast!

    The results speak for themselves. However, our engineering team is so confident with our MQB Sway Bar Kits for FWD and AWD MQB chassis, that the first 100 customers that purchase our product and are not satisfied with the results will receive a FULL REFUND.*
    *product must be returned within 30 days, customer will be responsible for freight charges*

    Product Features:

    MK7 MQB VW FWD & FWD Audi 8V A3 (Part Number EC0202-0301R)
    MSRP $399.98

    • 28.6mm Diameter Front, 25.4mm Diameter Rear
    • Tubular Steel Spring Construction
    • 3 unique adjustment settings front and rear for a total of 9 possible combinations
    • Compatible with Eurocode ÜSS Spherical Adjustable Endlinks (recommended)



    MK7 MQB VW AWD Golf R & AWD Audi 8V S3/RS3 (Part Number EC0202-0307R)
    MSRP $399.98

    • 28.6MM Diameter Front, 25.4 Diameter Rear
    • Tubular Steel Spring Construction
    • 3 unique adjustment settings front and 2 rear for a total of 6 possible combinations
    • Compatible with Eurocode ÜSS Spherical Adjustable Endlinks (recommended)



    Included with Each Upgrade Kit:

    MK7 MQB VW FWD & FWD Audi 8V A3 (Part Number EC0202-0301R)

    • Eurocode ÜSS Adjustable Front Sway Bar
    • Eurocode ÜSS Adjustable Rear Sway Bar
    • Polyurethane Front Sway Bar Bushings
    • Polyurethane Rear Sway Bar Bushings
    • Silicone Sway Bar Bushing Lubricant
    • Stainless Steel Front Installation Hardware Kit


    MK7 MQB VW AWD Golf R & AWD Audi 8V S3/RS3 (Part Number EC0202-0307R)

    • Eurocode ÜSS Adjustable Front Sway Bar
    • Eurocode ÜSS Adjustable Rear Sway Bar
    • Polyurethane Front Sway Bar Bushings
    • Polyurethane Rear Sway Bar Bushings
    • Silicone Sway Bar Bushing Lubricant
    • Stainless Steel Front Installation Hardware Kit


    Vehicle Fitment:

    (Part Number EC0202-0301R)
    • 2015- VW MK7 MQB Golf/Golf Sportwagen
    • 2015- VW MK7 MQB GTI
    • 2015- Audi A3 8V 1.8T FWD


    (Part Number EC0202-0307R)
    • 2015- VW MK7 MQB Golf R
    • 2015- Audi A3 8V AWD
    • 2015- Audi S3 8V AWD
    • 2015- Audi RS3 8V AWD


    Specifications:

    FWD (Part Number EC0202-0301R)

    Front
    • Rearward Setting: +18% over middle setting
    • Forward Setting: -20% over middle setting


    Rear
    • Rearward Setting: +9% over middle setting
    • Forward Setting: -10% over middle setting


    AWD (Part Number EC0202-0307R)

    Front
    • Rearward Setting: +18% over middle setting
    • Forward Setting: -20% over middle setting


    Rear
    • Rearward Setting: +9% over front setting


    Frequently asked Questions:

    Q: Some of the aftermarket sway bars come with aluminum or steel installation brackets with grease fittings, why do you retain the OEM?
    A: We modeled and conducted stress analyses on both stock and billet brackets and found no added benefit. The factory bracket is 100% capable of securing both the factory bar as well as our bar, without any change in deflection under load. The only advantage we found on some of the brackets was that the sway bar did not need to be removed to re-grease the bushings. However, we did not feel that was enough of a benefit for the added cost. We will be making a zerk style bracket in the near future for those interested in such a product.

    Q: Are your adjustable front and rear end links required for installation?
    A: Our sway bars will work with both the OEM endlinks as well as our ÜSS spherical adjustable front and rear endlinks. However, to use all settings on the rear sway bar the use of our spherical endlinks is required. This is due to the lack of articulation from the factory rear link.


    Please give us a call at 310-294-8108 or email us at [email protected] if you have any other questions.

    Last edited by Info@EuroCode; 04-10-2016 at 01:48 AM.


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    Do you have stiffness numbers as compared to stock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah787 View Post
    Do you have stiffness numbers as compared to stock?
    We worked many long nights and hard hours to arrive at the final design and specifications for our USS MQB Sway bar system to work as amazing as it does. We hate to hand over our formula on a silver platter to those mass production companies without making them work for it. If anyone is that interested in the exact numbers, they can buy it to reverser engineer, hope you can understand. :)


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    not that I care, and I love your sways on my B8 S4, but it's interesting how closely you guys guard the increase over stock numbers, while other companies include them in their product descriptions. everyone does business differently I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by will13k7 View Post
    not that I care, and I love your sways on my B8 S4, but it's interesting how closely you guys guard the increase over stock numbers, while other companies include them in their product descriptions. everyone does business differently I guess.
    +1

    Without these numbers I am hesitant to purchase this product. Also, it would be nice to hear some feedback for the S3 specifically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah787 View Post
    +1

    Without these numbers I am hesitant to purchase this product. Also, it would be nice to hear some feedback for the S3 specifically.

    Short of making your own sway bars from scratch you will have to rely on a manufacturers bars and their guess at what's best for your car. However we have taken this to another level by putting our money where our mouth is, if you are not satisfied with the results you can send them back, so that should remove all doubt or hesitation you are having. That's more than any other manufacturer of sway bars has ever done, once installed you are typically married to them.

    Here is the blurb from Dave's quote

    The results speak for themselves. However, our engineering team is so confident with our MQB Sway Bar Kits for FWD and AWD MQB chassis, that the first 100 customers that purchase our product and are not satisfied with the results will receive a FULL REFUND.*
    *product must be returned within 30 days, customer will be responsible for freight charges*
    Last edited by Info@EuroCode; 04-16-2016 at 03:42 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Info@EuroCode View Post
    Short of making your own sway bars from scratch you will have to rely on a manufacturers bars and their guess at what's best for your car. However we have taken this to another level by putting our money where our mouth is, if you are not satisfied with the results you can send them back, so that should remove all doubt or hesitation you are having. That's more than any other manufacturer of sway bars has ever done, once installed you are typically married to them.

    Here is the blurb from Dave's quote

    The results speak for themselves. However, our engineering team is so confident with our MQB Sway Bar Kits for FWD and AWD MQB chassis, that the first 100 customers that purchase our product and are not satisfied with the results will receive a FULL REFUND.*
    *product must be returned within 30 days, customer will be responsible for freight charges*
    Not trying to start an argument here. The 30 day return policy is certainly excellent and I'm sure the sway bars are great. All I'm really saying is that I found it a bit different that the numbers are kept secret when many other companies make them readily available.

    On a lighter note, what settings would you recommend for an S3 to reduce/eliminate the vehicles understeer?
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    are these solid or hollow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyhandz View Post
    are these solid or hollow?
    Our bars are made using DOM (drawn over mandrel) tubes just like the factory Audi bars for the benefit weight reduction. The only reason you would go solid and add uncessary weight, is because solid bars are much cheaper to produce at about half the cost. Outside of that a hollow bar with the same torsional strength will yield the exact same results minus the weight. The word "solid" in marketing a steel bar should really stand for solid profits!


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    So despite my initial skepticism, I have decided to go with the Eurocode sways for the following reasons:

    1) While I still feel that not providing stiffness numbers (when most competitors do) is a bit different, I understand why Eurocode doesn't. Moreover, the bars are sold together, so stiffness relative to stock isn't as important. What is important are the stiffness differences between the front and rear bars; Eurocode does provide these numbers. I am skeptical of only needing to upgrade the rear bar, so for me these numbers are enough. I am no expert, but I believe the best way to improve the handling on this car is to upgrade both front and rear. As long as the rear is stiffer than the front, and the front is stiffer than stock, the overall effect should be reduced understeer and a better reduction in body roll when compared to a rear bar upgrade only. Again, I am no expert, but this makes sense to me intuitively.

    2) The customer service provided by Eurocode has been excellent. After a lengthy conversation with David S., all of my questions have been answered and any concerns put to rest. I feel like Eurocode is a solid company with a good track record. They seem to take their time bringing products to market to make sure they deliver the best item. They also took the time to walk me through this product specifically (i.e. design process, philosophy behind the front sway, testing, etc.) and make recommendations for which settings to use given how I intend to drive my vehicle.

    3) With Eurocode's sale pricing, I can pick up the front/rear sways and front/rear endlinks for the same cost as just the rear sway and rear endlinks from a competitor.

    Ultimately time will tell how the whole set-up performs, but right now my hopes are high.
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    Thanks JohnnyUtah787! Keep us posted!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah787 View Post
    So despite my initial skepticism, I have decided to go with the Eurocode sways for the following reasons:

    1) While I still feel that not providing stiffness numbers (when most competitors do) is a bit different, I understand why Eurocode doesn't. Moreover, the bars are sold together, so stiffness relative to stock isn't as important. What is important are the stiffness differences between the front and rear bars; Eurocode does provide these numbers. I am skeptical of only needing to upgrade the rear bar, so for me these numbers are enough. I am no expert, but I believe the best way to improve the handling on this car is to upgrade both front and rear. As long as the rear is stiffer than the front, and the front is stiffer than stock, the overall effect should be reduced understeer and a better reduction in body roll when compared to a rear bar upgrade only. Again, I am no expert, but this makes sense to me intuitively.

    2) The customer service provided by Eurocode has been excellent. After a lengthy conversation with David S., all of my questions have been answered and any concerns put to rest. I feel like Eurocode is a solid company with a good track record. They seem to take their time bringing products to market to make sure they deliver the best item. They also took the time to walk me through this product specifically (i.e. design process, philosophy behind the front sway, testing, etc.) and make recommendations for which settings to use given how I intend to drive my vehicle.

    3) With Eurocode's sale pricing, I can pick up the front/rear sways and front/rear endlinks for the same cost as just the rear sway and rear endlinks from a competitor.

    Ultimately time will tell how the whole set-up performs, but right now my hopes are high.


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    I appreciate all of that. I just wish people, and I am not specifically referring to this thread, would not call them "sways" or "coils" when referring to sway bars or coilovers. I also dislike it when people say, I just got my "tints". We are increasingly talking and sounding less educated than we surely are. I know everyone is in a big hurry these days but please, take the extra minute..... mild rant over.

    Oh, I agree with JohnnyUtah787 about the EuroCode sway bars. I look forward to hearing how the install went, specifically the front sway bar, and the difference in daily driving and handling. I just picked up my '16 S3 after waiting 4 months to the day from ordering it and I can never seem to leave anything stock.
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    So induce the most oversteer we should set the rear to the stiffess setting(9% stiffer than middle setting) and the front to the softess(18% softer than middle setting)?

    Is the softess front setting softer than stock front sway bar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinM. View Post
    So induce the most oversteer we should set the rear to the stiffess setting(9% stiffer than middle setting) and the front to the softess(18% softer than middle setting)?

    Is the softess front setting softer than stock front sway bar?
    The front at its softest setting is -20% reduction over the middle position. Essentially you would be reducing the front bar by 38% when going from stiffest setting to the softest position.


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    Eurocode, is there a chance (if it is then how likely and when) 8V S3 owners be able to buy front upper chassis brace? You have one available for A3/GTI but no news for S3.

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    Sorry if I wasn't clear with my wording, my question was: what combinations of front/ rear settings would induce the most oversteer?

    Softess front setting and stiffest rear setting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by salvadorik View Post
    Eurocode, is there a chance (if it is then how likely and when) 8V S3 owners be able to buy front upper chassis brace? You have one available for A3/GTI but no news for S3.
    Working on it, not sure if it's possible without modification.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinM. View Post
    Sorry if I wasn't clear with my wording, my question was: what combinations of front/ rear settings would induce the most oversteer?

    Softess front setting and stiffest rear setting?

    Correct


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    Would this sway bar set work well with oem spring set up? I don't really want to make my ride any harsher, just reduce body roll.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdva78 View Post
    Would this sway bar set work well with oem spring set up? I don't really want to make my ride any harsher, just reduce body roll.

    Thanksk
    Yes it would, all development began with a completely stock car, and we tested further from there. :)


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    front camber plates coming anytime soon? If so will they work with Bilstein PSS10's?

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