B8 Ko4 owners follow up thread

[Dub_prime]

If this is the case I wonder what the $100 difference would be for between the longitudinal and transverse

I'd be curious about that too, the only consideration is that they will sell fewer kits for the A4, so r&d cost may be higher. That wouldn't explain why it wouldn't be plug and play at the higher cost though.

[VNA4]

Total cost 990$ for a K04 install including coolant and oil. Does it seem extremely over priced?


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[zcspec]

Total cost 990$ for a K04 install including coolant and oil. Does it seem extremely over priced?
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You live in the Bay Area, EVERYTHING is overpriced! In all seriousness, a grand including oil/coolant isnt too far off what shops up here charge. Don't forget though, you'll need colder plugs and K04 software.

[VNA4]

You live in the Bay Area, EVERYTHING is overpriced! In all seriousness, a grand including oil/coolant isnt too far off what shops up here charge. Don't forget though, you'll need colder plugs and K04 software.

Software is included they are an APR dealer. I found another shop (non APR dealer) willing to install for 750 oil/coolant included. Wonder if the APR dealer will get passed for going else where knowing I'll have to go back to them to get the K04 file. Lol
Thanks though for your feedback, I thought I was getting robbed big time


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[OzeyeruZ]

I would go with whom you trust, you want to be confident on the install and customer support with a big job like this. A few hundred bucks will not seem alot compared to the headaches of a questionable install etc. As stated above, you are in a high priced area. Thats like me going to manhattan for my install. Good luck and keep us posted!

Oz

On a lighter note, The best read logically I found about the Ko4 and our engines... (From GTI forum)

[lostkeyz]

Hey audiziner's! I just want to say thanks for all the ko4 comments you guys posted. I really don't post much on here but i do read a lot of what is posted on here so i can learn as much as possible about our platform. Reading all the stuff on here is making want to go with a k04 instead of the unreleased EFR kit. So my question is why haven't any of you guys consider the unitronic ko4 kit. I'm having a hard time deciding if i should go with that kit vs APR ko4 kit. The only reasons i want the unitronic ko4 because it will save me some money on the installation and no tax on it. With APR i would need to order it through the dealer and have them install it. Only downside is uni puts out 50 lbs less of torque. Let me know what you guys think.

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[Dub_prime]

Hey audiziner's! I just want to say thanks for all the ko4 comments you guys posted. I really don't post much on here but i do read a lot of what is posted on here so i can learn as much as possible about our platform. Reading all the stuff on here is making want to go with a k04 instead of the unreleased EFR kit. So my question is why haven't any of you guys consider the unitronic ko4 kit. I'm having a hard time deciding if i should go with that kit vs APR ko4 kit. The only reasons i want the unitronic ko4 because it will save me some money on the installation and no tax on it. With APR i would need to order it through the dealer and have them install it. Only downside is uni puts out 50 lbs less of torque. Let me know what you guys think.

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You pretty much hit the mark, they have it detuned dramatically, and I can't remember if they have a high torque tune or not.

[majerrahim]

Hey audiziner's! I just want to say thanks for all the ko4 comments you guys posted. I really don't post much on here but i do read a lot of what is posted on here so i can learn as much as possible about our platform. Reading all the stuff on here is making want to go with a k04 instead of the unreleased EFR kit. So my question is why haven't any of you guys consider the unitronic ko4 kit. I'm having a hard time deciding if i should go with that kit vs APR ko4 kit. The only reasons i want the unitronic ko4 because it will save me some money on the installation and no tax on it. With APR i would need to order it through the dealer and have them install it. Only downside is uni puts out 50 lbs less of torque. Let me know what you guys think.

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I don't think they have a file for e85, revo does not have for e85.
50 torque is a lot, that's where you win the race

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[lostkeyz]

I don't think they have a file for e85, revo does not have for e85.
50 torque is a lot, that's where you win the race

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My 13 isn't e85 compatible. That's why i gave them a consideration. I heard from the gti community that they outperform APRs customer service and i think that there is a possibility that uni can provide me with new files for more power if i wanted but I'm not 100 % sure about. I would need to contact them to confirm.

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[lostkeyz]

You pretty much hit the mark, they have it detuned dramatically, and I can't remember if they have a high torque tune or not.

335 hp/ 300 lbs

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[Dub_prime]

335 hp/ 300 lbs

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Vs 355hp /34x ft lbs for the HPA, which seems a bit low considering that there is a manifold with it. I know some people are going to get scared off due to the fab work, but...
And basically 350/340 for APR, with no fab work.
Out of those 3 I like the Uni and HPA turbo design the best because they eliminate that turbo muffler, everyone sells the delete for the IHI now for a reason, smoother transition and less surging.

[majerrahim]

Don't take into account all those numbers you see , yo don't know how and which dyno was used. The apt numbers don't use dynojet, and you will see high numbers on they're Webster once you dyno on true awd dyno you'll get lower numbers like me. Just go with a good kit and install it with a good mechanic, it is a bolt on but still some mechanics suck.
I got the k04 from cts and I installed it in a clean shop young brothers and so far I'm happy, not one problem to report

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[Dub_prime]

Don't take into account all those numbers you see , yo don't know how and which dyno was used. The apt numbers don't use dynojet, and you will see high numbers on they're Webster once you dyno on true awd dyno you'll get lower numbers like me. Just go with a good kit and install it with a good mechanic, it is a bolt on but still some mechanics suck.
I got the k04 from cts and I installed it in a clean shop young brothers and so far I'm happy, not one problem to report

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Yeah I take them with a grain of salt, and the CTS kit is a contender too. Pretty sure they will all be within 8-10 hp of one another depending on the other mods.

[VNA4]

For the K04 owners:

Do you all have an HFC? I have an HFC from 034, i guess it kinda smells.
Some guy at my work chased me down the street on foot and took a pic of my license plate rear...i confronted him and he said he would report me to the environmental air blablabla cause my exhaust stinks and seems illegal LOL! We had a long argument and he left.

I don't really give a shiet about his report, but my question is are you guys using an HFC that has less smell are there other options? I sometime am at idle and cant have the windows down cause my kids might smell that

[kiw1]

Hahah thats the best thing i have read all day. I have a test pipe installed and i could care less.

[zcspec]

Vs 355hp /34x ft lbs for the HPA, which seems a bit low considering that there is a manifold with it. I know some people are going to get scared off due to the fab work, but...
And basically 350/340 for APR, with no fab work.
Out of those 3 I like the Uni and HPA turbo design the best because they eliminate that turbo muffler, everyone sells the delete for the IHI now for a reason, smoother transition and less surging.

If you guys can wait another 3 1/2 weeks for a report, HPA is performing the install on my AR. Right after, I am driving it over to RPI Equip for the APR K04 file.

[khj677turbo]

For the K04 owners:

Do you all have an HFC? I have an HFC from 034, i guess it kinda smells.
Some guy at my work chased me down the street on foot and took a pic of my license plate rear...i confronted him and he said he would report me to the environmental air blablabla cause my exhaust stinks and seems illegal LOL! We had a long argument and he left.

I don't really give a shiet about his report, but my question is are you guys using an HFC that has less smell are there other options? I sometime am at idle and cant have the windows down cause my kids might smell that

I am running the APR HF cat and its smelly too. Might just be the nature of the beast. I used to run the 034 cat on my old b5 and never had a smell issue though.

[VNA4]

I am running the APR HF cat and its smelly too. Might just be the nature of the beast. I used to run the 034 cat on my old b5 and never had a smell issue though.

I might have to go back to 034 and ask them to take a look at it. Thanks for the feedback

[VNA4]

It's here!


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[poweredbyaudi7]

It's here!


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Is this CTS? Of so, can you post some pictures of the welds?

[zcspec]

That's CTS alright.

[majerrahim]

Mine is from cts and came with test pipe

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[poweredbyaudi7]

With the price of the APR with loyalty discount, there is no financial benifit to buying the CTS

[OzeyeruZ]

Congrats!!!

[The Infiltrator]

With the price of the APR with loyalty discount, there is no financial benifit to buying the CTS

Yeah when I upgrade I'm just doing the loyalty program.

Are you back yet?

[poweredbyaudi7]

Yeah when I upgrade I'm just doing the loyalty program.

Are you back yet?

No, not yet...45ish more days...

[The Infiltrator]

No, not yet...45ish more days...

Damn, you're a better man than I am because 6 months over there is good enough for me.

[poweredbyaudi7]

Damn, you're a better man than I am because 6 months over there is good enough for me.

Eh...this is my third time, getting used to it. Hey, do you have to run the CTS HFC/TP to run their k04?

[The Infiltrator]

Eh...this is my third time, getting used to it. Hey, do you have to run the CTS HFC/TP to run their k04?

For their turbo setup you have to use their hfc/tp. It curves unlike the normal hfc/tp.

[zcspec]

With the price of the APR with loyalty discount, there is no financial benifit to buying the CTS

From a cost standpoint, the CTS kit is substantially cheaper than the APR. I priced out CTS's kit w/HFC for $2519.99 whereas APR's kit with the loyalty discount is $2999.99. PLUS, if you don't have a HFC, you'll have to buy one. Doing the math, that's almost $400 cheaper and you get a HFC.

[VNA4]

Is this CTS? Of so, can you post some pictures of the welds?

It's APR, but I don't know why it came with the APR HFC as well....I purchased the kit didn't it would come with that. Any thoughts K04 owners?
Sorry no other pic of the kit, it's at the shop now


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[majerrahim]

From a cost standpoint, the CTS kit is substantially cheaper than the APR. I priced out CTS's kit w/HFC for $2519.99 whereas APR's kit with the loyalty discount is $2999.99. PLUS, if you don't have a HFC, you'll have to buy one. Doing the math, that's almost $400 cheaper and you get a HFC.

If you buy from cts, you still need to get the software from apr for 900, if you buy k04 from apr, it includes the software

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[OzeyeruZ]

It's APR, but I don't know why it came with the APR HFC as well....I purchased the kit didn't it would come with that. Any thoughts K04 owners?
Sorry no other pic of the kit, it's at the shop now


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Huwhaaattt?!??? It came with APR HFC?!? Mine didn't come with that! Luckyyyy!!!


Oz


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[zcspec]

If you buy from cts, you still need to get the software from apr for 900, if you buy k04 from apr, it includes the software

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Thanks for the clarification! Perhaps I should open I eyes a bit wider and rear the fine print or *.

[asfastas63]

If you buy from cts, you still need to get the software from apr for 900, if you buy k04 from apr, it includes the software

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It's only $500 to upgrade APR software, couldn't you get the turbo from CTS and then pay APR $500 to upgrade to their K04 file?

[Lambda13]

If you buy from cts, you still need to get the software from apr for 900, if you buy k04 from apr, it includes the software

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It's only $500 to upgrade APR software, couldn't you get the turbo from CTS and then pay APR $500 to upgrade to their K04 file?

From my understanding its $500 for the k04 if you have APR software already?

[OzeyeruZ]

$2599 from CTS website with Magnaflow HFC + $499 APR Ko4 file

Vs.

$2999 APR Ko4 kit IF you are existing customer.
You still get more for your dollar with CTS because of HFC if you don't have one, or are concerned about it being a full Ko4 turbo. I went with APR because its what my dealer sold and supported, otherwise I would have gone CTS.

Oz


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[Alex1188]

It's APR, but I don't know why it came with the APR HFC as well....I purchased the kit didn't it would come with that. Any thoughts K04 owners?
Sorry no other pic of the kit, it's at the shop now


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That's a CTS Kit you can tell by the recirc valve hose that's been welded on. I'm assuming your shop ordered the kit for you??

[VNA4]

That's a CTS Kit you can tell by the recirc valve hose that's been welded on. I'm assuming your shop ordered the kit for you??

Yea they did. Is it really?


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[OzeyeruZ]

You can't go wrong brother! CTS or APR is win win in my book! Lol


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