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    APR R&D has begun!

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    Pulled the ECU, test fitted a few parts, and broke out the laser scanners... This is going to be fun!

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    The S4 can't get here fast enough.

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    Agreed!
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    I'll wait.....

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    I will keep and eye on this thread. Like what Anthony said, That S4 just cant get here fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    The S4 can't get here fast enough.


    hehe

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    I hope I'm right
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    Arin what kind of gains do you think for this engine? Or too early to say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinnijjar23 View Post
    Arin what kind of gains do you think for this engine? Or too early to say?
    LOL Look at who you just asked that question to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinnijjar23 View Post
    Arin what kind of gains do you think for this engine? Or too early to say?
    The dyno graph a few posts above was Arin's unofficial guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZT View Post
    The dyno graph a few posts above was Arin's unofficial guess.
    That's for the new S4, look at the title on the graph, and the stock HP/TQ, Kevin means the 252hp 2.0T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchfin View Post
    That's for the new S4, look at the title on the graph, and the stock HP/TQ, Kevin means the 252hp 2.0T.
    You're right - AZT has just got S4 on the brain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinnijjar23 View Post
    Arin what kind of gains do you think for this engine? Or too early to say?
    Probably very similar to the new A3.
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    So does this motor run the IS20 or the IS38?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    The S4 can't get here fast enough.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by wabbit23 View Post
    So does this motor run the IS20 or the IS38?


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    IS20
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    R&D has begun!

    Bummer,...... So IS38 kit somewhere in the pipeline ....

    Im still holding out for the possibility of a manual and hoping for numbers close to what the GTI/R and A3/S3 are at. Thats the perfect combo that the wife's already okay'd me on.


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    Our upcoming intercooler system should help keep everything nice and cool for all the power we'll be pumping out with our ECU upgrade and other products! Stay tuned!

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    Cmon man, we need more photos, details, something. I'm feinding here.

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    I'll have some more good updates soon. :)
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    Update:



    Software:
    The ECU was a challenge. It's a new Flexray system, meaning we had to start all over again. But, we cracked it, updated our local flashing tools, updated our logging tools, calibration, and editing software, located the maps, and finally went to work making more power. On the dyno, we're up a good amount and have taken power to levels similar to what we see on the new Audi A3, except at all 4 wheels through the new DL3xx S-Tronic transmission. It's making this platform quite a blast to drive to say the least. We'll still need more time under our belts to fully tweak and vet the product for release, but it's comforting to say we're past the first major roadblock (cracking the flexray ecu) and on to having more fun!

    Hardware:
    We have a couple items out already that cross over from other platforms (turbo muffler delete and boost tap) and we're working on everything else you'd expect from us. Expect to see several more hardware releases from us in the future as we work hard on this platform over the coming months and years! As we're closer to release, I'll begin sharing some more photos. Till then, we'll be keeping the prototypes tight lipped for competitive reasons.

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    Thanks Arin. Looking forward to STG2 + downpipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoman View Post
    Thanks Arin. Looking forward to STG2 + downpipe.
    THIS!
    Can not wait!


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    You guys are never satisfied. Let's get excited over stage one first. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    You guys are never satisfied. Let's get excited over stage one first. ;-)
    Ha, true. What's the estimated month STG1 will be available? I usually start there with earlier development versions anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinnijjar23 View Post
    THIS!
    Can not wait!


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    Power numbers on a downpipe stg 2 will be impressive I can imagine... we over 360 most likely .. tq very high as well... dsg tune.....
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    APR, Fill in the blanks: Stage 1 will provide ___ HP and ____ TQ numbers and be available via our authorized dealers on ____ .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoman View Post
    APR, Fill in the blanks: Stage 1 will provide ___ HP and ____ TQ numbers and be available via our authorized dealers on ____ .
    LOL!!!

    APR, please fill in these blanks: STG1 will be totally _______ awesome and make you _____ your pants while smiling!
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    I'm still waiting on the car, supposed to be here tonight. I will post my impressions :)

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    Its back!!

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    Driving impressions!

    I finally got done with some stuff around the house and took it out for a few laps around the neighborhood. Keep in mind it is 1:00 am here so there is no one around. The car is an absolute blast, it feels like a go kart. Almost zero turbo lag and awesome acceleration. The B9 driving feel is significantly lighter than the b8 platform and the new 2.0T is amazing with APRs beta software. It accelerate MUCH faster than stock and has grip for days thanks to Quattro. 0-70 mph come very quick.

    Just a tidbit, this car is my wife's daily and I daily either a Q7 or an APR stage 1 S6 (soon to be stage 2).

    I still find it very enjoyable and can't wait to log some serious miles on it over the next few months. I'm sure the very large Intercooler will keep the performance nice and snappy in our 100+ degree houston weather!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aadel@EL1TE View Post
    Driving impressions!

    I finally got done with some stuff around the house and took it out for a few laps around the neighborhood. Keep in mind it is 1:00 am here so there is no one around. The car is an absolute blast, it feels like a go kart. Almost zero turbo lag and awesome acceleration. The B9 driving feel is significantly lighter than the b8 platform and the new 2.0T is amazing with APRs beta software. It accelerate MUCH faster than stock and has grip for days thanks to Quattro. 0-70 mph come very quick.

    Just a tidbit, this car is my wife's daily and I daily either a Q7 or an APR stage 1 S6 (soon to be stage 2).

    I still find it very enjoyable and can't wait to log some serious miles on it over the next few months. I'm sure the very large Intercooler will keep the performance nice and snappy in our 100+ degree houston weather!
    +1 I rode in it last night. It pulls good! Definitely fun from the passenger seat too. :-) The intercooler is eye candy.
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    Arin, Can you give us an update? Many of us I'm pretty sure are keen to know, is the Stage 1 3 months away? 6 months away?? A rough idea would be well received!

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    At water fest they had a demo car , claiming 310,hp and 375 tq... I assume to be stg1 flywheel numbers!...
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