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    Senior Member Three Rings Khaotic's Avatar
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    A4 coilovers on RS4

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    Hi,

    Just upgraded from my B7 A4 Avant to a RS4 Avant and I got some questions about coilovers, searched but all I found was regarding S4 coilovers which will be a different story since they share the V8 anyways.
    The RS4 currently got XYZ coilovers installed, but I cant say that I like them very much comparing them to the KW V2's I have in the A4 as the XYZ feels very soggy/bouncy front end on hard shifts and car rolls alot more in corners.

    A4 will be going on the market soon after I strip what parts I want to sell on the side/move over to the RS4 and Im thinking about swapping the KW's over aswell.
    I "know" they will mount fine and all, but will they really behave so much worse than the KW V3's listed for the RS4?

    As far as research goes, the KW V2's for A4 has specs;
    Front axle load : 1081-1250 kg
    Spring signature: Front 20-60-80 / KW1023 , Rear 1025
    Shock signature: Front 100 1006 , Rear 100 1106

    KW V3's for RS4;
    Max front axle load: 1250 kg
    Spring signature: Front 20-60-80 / KW1024 , Rear 1025
    Shock signature: Front 100 1006 , Rear 100 1106

    How much more is there to it than theese numbers acutally tell? I dont know if I can justify almost $2000 for V3's if the springs/shocks are the same and essentially only getting the compression rating settings when I have V2's thats only 2 years old and in very good shape.
    Further down the road I might get the V3's or some other brand that are specificly for the RS4, but I have higher priority items on my list of things for the RS4 right now so will this option atleast suffice as a free suspension "upgrade" for now?
    Last edited by Khaotic; 04-02-2016 at 09:13 AM.
    2007 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TQ 6MT S-Line
    Exterior: Bi-Xenon Retrofit | 30% Tint | KW V2 Inox | 19" VMR 701
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    If im not mistaken, KW only recommends the V3 for the car. With that said, i think you need purchase DRC caps for the RS4 but thats the only thing extra needed.
    SUSPENSION-KW V3-Hotchkiss RS4 sway bars-034 Adj UCA-034 strut mount-034 F&R end links-034 motor mounts-034 Snub mount W/bracket-034 Trans mount l BRAKES-ECS Stage 4 BBK-ECS rear rotors & lines, Hawk pads l Engine-JHM Tune-JHM 6 rib pulley-Milltek catless DP's-FI exhaust l EXTERIOR-RS4 black grille-Custom headlights-LED city & DRL lights-ECS LED tail lights & plate lights l INTERIOR-Custom steering wheel-SRP pedals-ECS LED lights-MOMO shift knob-Gen 2 RNSE & AMI l WHEELS-OEM RS4 W/ Michelin PSS

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastEddie View Post
    If im not mistaken, KW only recommends the V3 for the car. With that said, i think you need purchase DRC caps for the RS4 but thats the only thing extra needed.
    Thanks for the reply, and I can understand that you would want the V3 for a RS-model but that would perhaps come further down the road.. Right now Im trying to decide if Im better off running the V2's for a year or two, and I need to decide before I sell my A4.
    And DRC is already removed, PO did that when he put the XYZ coilovers on!
    2007 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TQ 6MT S-Line
    Exterior: Bi-Xenon Retrofit | 30% Tint | KW V2 Inox | 19" VMR 701
    Interior: LED Lighting | Black Headliner | RS4 Shiftknob | oCarbon Trim | TTS Steering Wheel | Audio build
    Engine: REVO Stage 2+ | STaSIS Exhaust | R.A.I HFC | Custom CAI | AWE FMIC | HPFP Stage 1 | RAI Catch Can | JHM Flywheel & Clutch | USP Metal Slave & Clutch Line | JHM SS Trio

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    There was a recent thread saying that KW has developed a new V1 Inox line for the RS4. The OP stated 1.2k$ shipped.

    Maybe rather sell the V2s and go for V1s or add some change and go for V3s or add some more change and go for Club-Sport. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaotic View Post
    Thanks for the reply, and I can understand that you would want the V3 for a RS-model but that would perhaps come further down the road.. Right now Im trying to decide if Im better off running the V2's for a year or two, and I need to decide before I sell my A4.
    And DRC is already removed, PO did that when he put the XYZ coilovers on!
    Honestly i would call KW and ask. Ive spoken to them twice and they have been very helpful. But as i said before, i think the only difference in the V3's between s4 and RS4 are the DRC caps.
    SUSPENSION-KW V3-Hotchkiss RS4 sway bars-034 Adj UCA-034 strut mount-034 F&R end links-034 motor mounts-034 Snub mount W/bracket-034 Trans mount l BRAKES-ECS Stage 4 BBK-ECS rear rotors & lines, Hawk pads l Engine-JHM Tune-JHM 6 rib pulley-Milltek catless DP's-FI exhaust l EXTERIOR-RS4 black grille-Custom headlights-LED city & DRL lights-ECS LED tail lights & plate lights l INTERIOR-Custom steering wheel-SRP pedals-ECS LED lights-MOMO shift knob-Gen 2 RNSE & AMI l WHEELS-OEM RS4 W/ Michelin PSS

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    Senior Member Three Rings Khaotic's Avatar
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    Yeah, I'll try to get in contact with KW and see what they say.. I've not been in contact with them myself but normally with theese sorts of inquiries all you get is "buy the new so we make more money", hope KW is more helpful than that.
    And yeah, I'll definitly go V3's rather than V1's once funds allow for suspension upgrade.
    2007 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TQ 6MT S-Line
    Exterior: Bi-Xenon Retrofit | 30% Tint | KW V2 Inox | 19" VMR 701
    Interior: LED Lighting | Black Headliner | RS4 Shiftknob | oCarbon Trim | TTS Steering Wheel | Audio build
    Engine: REVO Stage 2+ | STaSIS Exhaust | R.A.I HFC | Custom CAI | AWE FMIC | HPFP Stage 1 | RAI Catch Can | JHM Flywheel & Clutch | USP Metal Slave & Clutch Line | JHM SS Trio

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    Senior Member Three Rings Khaotic's Avatar
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    Incase someone wants to know, I spoke with KW and they basicly said that rears will be the same but RS4 V3's use a different spring in the front (as seen above 1023 vs 1024) so the damper (which is the same) will take higher loads than whats tested for since the softer spring of the V2's will not take as much of the load as the V3 springs.
    I was given part number of correct springs, so I might just go and order thoose and it will basicly become a "RS4 V2" set that should be close to V3 apart from compression rating settings and DRC delete caps.

    Thumbs up to KW customer service, gave me a very helpful and informative answer.
    2007 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TQ 6MT S-Line
    Exterior: Bi-Xenon Retrofit | 30% Tint | KW V2 Inox | 19" VMR 701
    Interior: LED Lighting | Black Headliner | RS4 Shiftknob | oCarbon Trim | TTS Steering Wheel | Audio build
    Engine: REVO Stage 2+ | STaSIS Exhaust | R.A.I HFC | Custom CAI | AWE FMIC | HPFP Stage 1 | RAI Catch Can | JHM Flywheel & Clutch | USP Metal Slave & Clutch Line | JHM SS Trio

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    Veteran Member Four Rings FastEddie's Avatar
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    Thats cool. Thanks for the update. I didn think there was too much of a difference. Now that you do mention it, S4 to RS4 probably run the same spring. Makes sense. Thanks!
    SUSPENSION-KW V3-Hotchkiss RS4 sway bars-034 Adj UCA-034 strut mount-034 F&R end links-034 motor mounts-034 Snub mount W/bracket-034 Trans mount l BRAKES-ECS Stage 4 BBK-ECS rear rotors & lines, Hawk pads l Engine-JHM Tune-JHM 6 rib pulley-Milltek catless DP's-FI exhaust l EXTERIOR-RS4 black grille-Custom headlights-LED city & DRL lights-ECS LED tail lights & plate lights l INTERIOR-Custom steering wheel-SRP pedals-ECS LED lights-MOMO shift knob-Gen 2 RNSE & AMI l WHEELS-OEM RS4 W/ Michelin PSS

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