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    Apparently, our LED headlights suck according to IIHS

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    Xenon headlights scored a A (Acceptable) rating, while the LED headlights scored a P (Poor)

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    I'm extremely happy with my LED headlights.


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    Not thrilled with my LEDs...
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    I thought the distance it covers was a little shorter than usual. good enough for me though and the color temperature is perfect.

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    it took me 40 seconds to get my LED lights to be more effective.
    little white dial that points up. about 4 full turns each.
    make sure the is off when you are doing this. and lights are off.
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    They were just talking about this on the news a few mins ago. They said the bmw 3 series halogens were the worst and recommended that if you are driving on a dark highway at night you should not go over 35mph with these lights. Haha. They also said the new led's on the Prius had the best test score.
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    Guys here in states and the north america in general have some odd regulations that limit the intensity of auto LED headlights compared to Europe. I am sure the brightness of LED headlights can be adjusted via vagcom or dealer can do it (of course not officially though)

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    I was able to increase the brightness of my previos A6 C7's LEDs.

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    Most headlight tests I've read over the years judge everything based on the sharp cut-off from light to no light. To me, this has nothing to do with visibility or quality. The same regions can be lit up quite well even when that same light ends abruptly. Doesn't mean the lighting is bad. They just aren't used to it.

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    Ive had xenon for the last 3 cars... I thought it was me, I was really let down with the distance visibility. They look great but thats were it ends.
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    LED's give a less focussed light, but that's not to say they give less light thank HID/Xenon

    Good info here: http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ba...led-26530.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by salvadorik View Post
    Guys here in states and the north america in general have some odd regulations that limit the intensity of auto LED headlights compared to Europe. I am sure the brightness of LED headlights can be adjusted via vagcom or dealer can do it (of course not officially though)

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    I was able to increase the brightness of my previos A6 C7's LEDs.
    The code I found to increase the LED DRL is:

    Ajust LED Brightness
    [09 – Cent. Elect.] [Security Access - 16] (enter security code. One of the default codes is- 20113)
    [Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 3
    Set between 5 and 100

    BUT.. will this increase the LED headlights? or is their another code I can't find anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaine View Post
    The code I found to increase the LED DRL is:

    Ajust LED Brightness
    [09 – Cent. Elect.] [Security Access - 16] (enter security code. One of the default codes is- 20113)
    [Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 3
    Set between 5 and 100

    BUT.. will this increase the LED headlights? or is their another code I can't find anywhere?
    This is just for the DRL; the guys above are talking about the LED low beams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A3_Yuppie View Post
    This is just for the DRL; the guys above are talking about the LED low beams.
    Some guys adjusted the brightness of LED headlights both low and high beams. That is BMW guys who did it. It know that for a fact. There is a video with Nick Murray, an australian who talks about as well.

    These LED bulbs are increadibly bright at their full potential, they blow any HIDs all day long. We just need to find out how to tap into its power.

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    Well the A3 LED Headlights aren't the ones originally intended since NHTSA blocked Audi from using Matrix LED Headlights.

    Audi in returned aborted Matrix LED Headlights all together for the A3, and just made a regular LED Headlight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diztek View Post
    They were just talking about this on the news a few mins ago. They said the bmw 3 series halogens were the worst and recommended that if you are driving on a dark highway at night you should not go over 35mph with these lights. Haha. They also said the new led's on the Prius had the best test score.
    That's kind of a given. Halogens are crap on any car and it's a shame that German luxury brands like BMW and Mercedes have them as standard options.

    There's this nice dark gray W204 C-Class I kept seeing on the parking lot at work, I always noticed it from the back, spotting it's oval shaped tail exhausts, then it's nice ventilated disc brakes but when I got to the front I was surprised to see it had cheap Halogen headlights.

    So glad Audi (at least Audi USA) keeps Xenon standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salvadorik View Post
    Guys here in states and the north america in general have some odd regulations that limit the intensity of auto LED headlights compared to Europe. I am sure the brightness of LED headlights can be adjusted via vagcom or dealer can do it (of course not officially though)

    - - - Updated - - -

    I was able to increase the brightness of my previos A6 C7's LEDs.
    Value Range for LED bulbs = 0 to 127

    Seems LED Low Beam is already at max from the factory:
    Low Beam Front Left = (6)-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimmwert AB 6 = 127
    Low Beam Front Right = (6)-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimmwert AB 7 = 127

    LED High Beam may be possible as it's factory setting is 100:
    Front Left High Beam = (6)-Leuchte8FL LB39-Dimmwert AB 8 = 100
    Front Right High Beam = (6)-Leuchte9FL RB2-Dimmwert AB 9 = 100
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    Quote Originally Posted by reyoasian View Post
    LED > Xenon when it comes to how sharp and crisp it looks (when you're looking at it)
    However, Xenon > LED for lumens output which means better visibility
    Agree. That said, I had to ask my dealer to adjust my HID headlights as they were aimed too low. The adjustment made a noticeable improvement.

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    I don't know if it matters with different regions but I recently had some LED E-codes installed on my A3 from Tagmotorsports
    and the E-codes are noticeably more brighter than my U.S. LED headlights. I have to do a few adjustments with the height of them
    but they look as bright as the high beams. The DRL seems brighter and a bit more blue-ish too.

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    Would be cool to make the low beams brighter via vag com if it mirrors the euro setting and is safe to do without prematurely overheating them or anything. I think they are good, but like every other car I've owned they had to be aimed higher the day i got the car.
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    For those who needed to adjust the height of their low beams, were you able to do it on your own or did you just have Audi do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah787 View Post
    For those who needed to adjust the height of their low beams, were you able to do it on your own or did you just have Audi do it?
    Yes just like any other headlight takes a few minutes. White philips head screw adjuster on the back top side of each headlight. Nothing special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamegenie View Post
    That's kind of a given. Halogens are crap on any car and it's a shame that German luxury brands like BMW and Mercedes have them as standard options.

    There's this nice dark gray W204 C-Class I kept seeing on the parking lot at work, I always noticed it from the back, spotting it's oval shaped tail exhausts, then it's nice ventilated disc brakes but when I got to the front I was surprised to see it had cheap Halogen headlights.

    So glad Audi (at least Audi USA) keeps Xenon standard.
    Yup, I thought it was ridiculous that HID was an option not standard on my wife's Mercedes GL, the supposed S class of MB SUVs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyUtah787 View Post
    For those who needed to adjust the height of their low beams, were you able to do it on your own or did you just have Audi do it?
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    No issues with mine at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner_oz View Post
    Value Range for LED bulbs = 0 to 127

    Seems LED Low Beam is already at max from the factory:
    Low Beam Front Left = (6)-Leuchte6ABL LC5-Dimmwert AB 6 = 127
    Low Beam Front Right = (6)-Leuchte7ABL RB1-Dimmwert AB 7 = 127

    LED High Beam may be possible as it's factory setting is 100:
    Front Left High Beam = (6)-Leuchte8FL LB39-Dimmwert AB 8 = 100
    Front Right High Beam = (6)-Leuchte9FL RB2-Dimmwert AB 9 = 100
    Cool, I dont low beam has brightness issue. It just needs to be raised a bit.

    As for high mean wow I need to see if I can it to 127. The high beam already as is pretty powerful (at 100 of 127 total is around 79% of its full manufacturer approved potential).

    Thanks for info

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    Quote Originally Posted by salvadorik View Post
    Cool, I dont low beam has brightness issue. It just needs to be raised a bit.

    As for high mean wow I need to see if I can it to 127. The high beam already as is pretty powerful (at 100 of 127 total is around 79% of its full manufacturer approved potential).

    Thanks for info
    I'd check as settings VCDS as may differ per region. Raising is easier and no risk of overheating.
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    My driver side light needed to raised a bit. The passenger side was fine. The brightness is fine for low beams on my car. High beams are pretty impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reyoasian View Post
    LED > Xenon when it comes to how sharp and crisp it looks (when you're looking at it)
    However, Xenon > LED for lumens output which means better visibility
    this is true
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    Coming from halogens in my mk6 GTI, I am thrilled with the LED's. Best headlights I have ever driven with.

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    the LEDs are the best option on my s3.
    they look amazing
    the adaptive lights are sweet
    like other have said, they are easily adjustable

    i even used vag com to modify the leds to allow for adaptive lights on with highbeams- so much light- its great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    My driver side light needed to raised a bit. The passenger side was fine. The brightness is fine for low beams on my car. High beams are pretty impressive.
    Its on purpose for oncoming traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techandtest View Post
    Its on purpose for oncoming traffic.
    I know that, but mine was extremely low. It's not blinding anyone the amount I raised it.
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    btw since we are on the topic of lights, anyone here got leds on the underside of doors?

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    Can we raise the LED headlight ourselves? Read that someone mentioned it has to be done with the headlight off... then turn it on to check. Is that correct?
    Also, can someone post a pic of which white knob to adjust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs200z View Post
    Can we raise the LED headlight ourselves? Read that someone mentioned it has to be done with the headlight off... then turn it on to check. Is that correct?
    Also, can someone post a pic of which white knob to adjust?
    I did it without them on. I used a screw driver. It took less than a minute. I am not sure how you would adjust with the lights off. You need have lights on at night pointed at a wall and be about 30 feet away from the wall.You probably don't need to turn the screw more than 1/2 a turn counter-clockwise.


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    There is a basic settings mode in VCDS in the headlamp range module - does this need to be active whilst adjust the beam height ?

    Also I take it its anti clockwise to raise ,

    Thanks.

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    I managed to raise mine today without needing VCDS (though I have it). Just use a Philip screwdriver and turn it anti-clockwise to raise, a 5 mins job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob2k68 View Post
    There is a basic settings mode in VCDS in the headlamp range module - does this need to be active whilst adjust the beam height ?

    Also I take it its anti clockwise to raise ,

    Thanks.
    counter-clockwise to raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggio View Post
    counter-clockwise to raise.
    Thanks mate . Going to give both a half turn and see if that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob2k68 View Post
    Thanks mate . Going to give both a half turn and see if that helps
    I reckon you will need more than half a turn eventually. I did about 2-3 turns on mine. :)

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