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    Fuse tap fail question

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    Trying to install a fuse tap for a hardline to my Uniden Lrd950. It calls for a 12-16v power source and that's the extent of the info given. The fuse tap I'm using is an ATM-mini. I forgot we have both ATM/ATO. After trying twice I couldn't get any power to the device on both key on and key off ports. I know very little when in comes to electronics, so what I'm starting to think is that the 10 and 15 amp ports don't supply enough voltage to power the detector, is this right? So I should've purchased the ATO-starndard fuse tap I'm thinking....Any thoughts appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allstock View Post
    Trying to install a fuse tap for a hardline to my Uniden Lrd950. It calls for a 12-16v power source and that's the extent of the info given. The fuse tap I'm using is an ATM-mini. I forgot we have both ATM/ATO. After trying twice I couldn't get any power to the device on both key on and key off ports. I know very little when in comes to electronics, so what I'm starting to think is that the 10 and 15 amp ports don't supply enough voltage to power the detector, is this right? So I should've purchased the ATO-starndard fuse tap I'm thinking....Any thoughts appreciated.

    The tap I bought off of ebay.
    I used the standard Auto Parts ones for my applications and they worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel Artiles View Post
    I used the standard Auto Parts ones for my applications and they worked.
    I picked up the ATC type and am going to give it a go. Still don't know why the 15 amp atm tap wouldn't work...maybe I'm not grounding correctly. Great job on the car btw, Noel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allstock View Post
    I picked up the ATC type and am going to give it a go. Still don't know why the 15 amp atm tap wouldn't work...maybe I'm not grounding correctly. Great job on the car btw, Noel.
    Thanks man, yeah check the grounding, I'm tapped into 15v and it works. I used the ground right above the fuse box, tightened it up to the bolt.
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    It only requires 11 - 16 V DC so assuming that is a minimum of 12 it should work fine. Also if it was requiring more than the fuse 15A it would blow the fuse.
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    When adding an inline fuse, the fuse used has to be big enough to supply both the original equipment on that circuit along wih the device you are adding. For example, the slot originally had a 15amp fuse and the device you are adding has a 10 amp draw. That means you place in a 25amp fuse to be able to supply enough amperage for the circuit. If not, the fuse will pop (could have happened if you did that).

    A fuse is an overload protection to prevent things like electric fires. The more amp draw, hotter the wire gets and this is why they have specified wire gauges for specified amp draw ratings. Smaller gauge wire, quicker it gets hot. If too much amperage is applied through a wire that can't handle it, it will catch on fire. To avoid this, fuses are used. It pops when the amp draw exceeds it's rating to avoid overheating which can and will lead to fires (how electrical fires can start).

    You can't just slap an inline fuse to any circuit. You first need to know what that circuit is for and powers. Reason being, you first want to be sure it is always energised with the ignition on (for your app). Second reason is you don't want to add an inline fuse onto a crucial circuit. Meaning, don't add it to something like a circuit associated with the ecm for example. And to state the obvious, make sure the device is properly grounded. Some plastics can pass as metals to the naked eye (yes, I've done this before. but in my defense, I also wear glasses). And the metal has to be bare. If it is painted, that paint acts like a barrier and prevents metal to metal contact. And lastly, the metal you are grounding it to has to be attached to the rest of the chasis by metal touching metal. So if it is like a peice of metal that is mounted/bolted to plastic and does not have continuity to the chasis for grounding, then it simply is not grounded.
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    The RJ11 cable that can be used to power this device has a specification amperage limit of 500mA. That is only 6W required to power this device. In no way would this interfere with existing tolerances for other devices.

    Secondly if you add an inline fuse, it DOES NOT have to consider the existing equipment as it will be on its own current pathway, therefore being completely ignorant of the other device. You simply add the tap with the existing requirements and add another fuse of the required specs for the new equipment. YOU DO NOT increase the fuse at the fuse box otherwise you end up providing no protection for fire.
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    I don't know what he was adding to his car, nor cared to look it up to see what it was or specs. I am speaking in general, for anybody who reads this post.

    Inline fuse desingns differ, and it looks like the one in his pic uses the one slot for the original circuit and add on. From the pic (how it is pictured), power is fed to the right spade then goes through the fuse and splits. One to the device he wants to add and the other spade for the originaI circuit. Hence, why I said to use proper sized fuses. But reading your post I now know there is a slot for the original circuit sovereign from the tap circuit not seen because of the pic angle (standard auto zone stuff). Or I am wrong, but direct feed is just not a smart idea.

    You seem to know exactly what he has and is trying to install. I cared less to look it up. But seems you have the right way to go about, and he should follow your advice. But I am not incorrect when it is applied to general apps. I have have various add ons in my car from digital gauges to a hard wired radar detector and am not a dummy. Was just trying to help.
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    Fuse tap fail question

    Hey Seerlah, why don't you get your dumb-ass out of the b7 section alright? We're doing just fine without your "knowledge"....




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    Thank you professor.

    Get yourself a DMM it will make your life easier rather than guessing harbor freight have them for cheap especially with a coupon.

    Once you plug your fuse tap in, check the voltage. Most likely you're tap is faulty if you don't see a voltage. Lastly the other culprit is the ground. Best way to make sure your ground is actually ground is by using your dmm and setting it to the ohm (omega) symbol and finding to bare metal spots and seeing if you read something less than 5 to 10 ohms. I would u use the side metal portion of the cigarette lighter. Just be careful not to let the prong touch the center and the side at the same time.

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    Not sure why the comments or anyone took this personally. Simply stating that you should never increase the fuse to accommodate the additional load - for obvious safety reasons and that it is also isn't required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okedokey View Post
    Not sure why the comments or anyone took this personally. Simply stating that you should never increase the fuse to accommodate the additional load - for obvious safety reasons and that it is also isn't required.
    Who took it personally?

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    Re-read the posts.
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