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    About to buy a 2007 rs4...

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    Was up til 3am doing research on it. Are there any other things I need to be aware of aside from the carbon cleaning? 107k miles.

    Might be able to get it for about $17k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haole_Audi View Post
    Was up til 3am doing research on it. Are there any other things I need to be aware of aside from the carbon cleaning? 107k miles.

    Might be able to get it for about $17k.
    Injector cleaning/inspection during CC, it can get dirty and proper flow is important imo
    Brakes/Rotors can be expensive
    Oil cooler lines
    Control arm bushings

    All other gremlins can be luck, and how the car was maintained by previous owners.
    I just had to replace my Batteries, if they are OEM still, should be about time to go out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haole_Audi View Post
    Was up til 3am doing research on it. Are there any other things I need to be aware of aside from the carbon cleaning? 107k miles.

    Might be able to get it for about $17k.
    Has the original clutch been replaced? Redline in two gears and shift to test.
    PCV contraption changed at any time?
    How does the cancerous coolant tank look? Hairline cracks develop over time.
    Is it clunking from the front? Control arms/wheel bearings/..etc

    As I was about to write more questions, I noticed that you said $17k.. are you serious? At that price, You can spend a good sum in maintenance and still be in the "positive". Good luck. Pictures? Good ol Carfax?
    Switched to Tesla and have never been happier. No more shady mechanic bills and excuses - oil top off before an oil change is normal or dealing with outdated forums that have image size limitations. And no more dealing with vendors that do not provide horsepower numbers but sell you random things by labeling them as performance parts. No more dealing with the Audi dealership and having to buy custom Audi specific tools. Wow. I can't believe I lived through all of this. Money pit.

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    Yea this guy doesn't know what he's got. He's the 4th owner and bought it 6 month ago. Jhm-milltek exhaust, new Jhm clutch with tune. Lightweight flywheel. Kdm catch can.

    Spoke to the second owner who did all this. Had all receipts which he gave to owner #3 which bought it for $36k.

    Owner #4 bought and wanting to sell for $20k. I know I can talk him down tho.

    Suspension has supposedly been upgraded. Running on kW v3 too. With adv1 wheels.

    - - - Updated - - -

    #4 owner bought it from an auction. So they don't know what's all in it. Luckily I know owner #2 that did basically all the work.

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    With that tune in the car, you better get a compression test.

    I'm willing to bet that's why he is trying to unload 6 months after buying...

    I personally had my RS4 motor blow up and every mechanic that inspected and reviewed said it was due to the JHM tune that I had. I had detonation in 2 cylinders, melted the crowns of the pistons, and scored the cylinder walls.

    I'm in contact with several other RS4 owners whose motors had the JHM Tune and had catastrophic motor issues.

    A new motor is $12,500 from Audi. And good luck finding a used one.

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    Bootleg25Q supposedly blew up his motor and claimed it was the fault the JHM tune he had been running for 1 year and 20,000 miles.

    He claimed to have had communication with 10+ other RS4 owners who also blew up their motors and had the JHM tune.

    Bootleg25Q claimed to have hard evidence to support these claims, but has yet to provide any of it.

    As far as anyone can tell, this guy is full of shit and is just looking to smear JHM's name.

    See his failure of a thread for more details: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...lown-RS4-Motor
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    I picked mine up with 93K on it and I have about 97K on it now. Finally got to tear into the car and everything seemed pretty solid. Brakes and Carbon Clean were done at 85K prior to me getting it as well as the replacement of the manifold and some other things. I just did the carbon clean the the valves were pretty dirty but not to bad. I also replaced the PCV valve because it was shot. For that price I would recommend, like everyone else has said, and take it to a shop you trust and have a compression test done as well as a very through inspection. Better to spend the small amount of money up front than to find out your in for a huge repair bill. I am all about good deals when you can find them but that is a super low price and that would make me nervous. Best of luck though and post pictures if you pull the trigger on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by komseh View Post
    Bootleg25Q supposedly blew up his motor and claimed it was the fault the JHM tune he had been running for 1 year and 20,000 miles.

    He claimed to have had communication with 10+ other RS4 owners who also blew up their motors and had the JHM tune.

    Bootleg25Q claimed to have hard evidence to support these claims, but has yet to provide any of it.

    As far as anyone can tell, this guy is full of shit and is just looking to smear JHM's name.

    See his failure of a thread for more details: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...lown-RS4-Motor
    Here they come. More importantly back on topic, I would still get a PPI done especially with a aftermarket tune. If its too good be true..
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    A PPI and compression test regardless, would be a good idea. I did a CC at 82k and from what me and my mechanic saw it had never been done before. It took a long long hard cleaning to get it looking good again. Luckily had the help of a walnut blaster. I also chose to do spark plugs, valve cover gaskets and the PCV valve as I was already in there. Also bushings like the torque mont, motor/tranny mounts ect... will probably need replacing if they have not been done already.
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    thanks for the info. i'll definitely be hitting him up about the compression test. the guy said he got it at auction for $20k, wants to sell it for that much(his wife says its too loud) but i'm sure i can bring him down to my level. giving me that wiggle room just in case i do need to fix some things. i may get it regardless and keep my a4 as my daily for awhile.

    pix and such will be posted if i get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haole_Audi View Post
    thanks for the info. i'll definitely be hitting him up about the compression test. the guy said he got it at auction for $20k, wants to sell it for that much(his wife says its too loud) but i'm sure i can bring him down to my level. giving me that wiggle room just in case i do need to fix some things. i may get it regardless and keep my a4 as my daily for awhile.

    pix and such will be posted if i get it.
    Idk what the market is like there for these but I don't see someone dropping 4K off their asking price just to sell because his wife doesn't like it. Hell I could buy that thing and ship it across the country for 2k and likely be into a real nice car for 23k. Looks clean from the pictures. Point being, people looking for a clean example of these search the web everyday for these, while Hawaii is definitely inconvenient for most buyers that example is a good 6k+ below the market for similar cars. Might not be there if you try to haggle him down 4K.

    https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/cto/5502150423.html

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    Coolant looks a bit low. Otherwise thats a steal at 17K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by komseh View Post
    Bootleg25Q supposedly blew up his motor and claimed it was the fault the JHM tune he had been running for 1 year and 20,000 miles.

    He claimed to have had communication with 10+ other RS4 owners who also blew up their motors and had the JHM tune.

    Bootleg25Q claimed to have hard evidence to support these claims, but has yet to provide any of it.

    As far as anyone can tell, this guy is full of shit and is just looking to smear JHM's name.

    See his failure of a thread for more details: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...lown-RS4-Motor
    Back at it again with the internet law degree! You have no idea how civil suits work, do you?

    "As far as anyone can tell" - You and your merry band of JHM fan boys (about 10 of you) lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootleg25Q View Post
    Back at it again with the internet law degree! You have no idea how civil suits work, do you?

    "As far as anyone can tell" - You and your merry band of JHM fan boys (about 10 of you) lol
    The fact that you've made claims with zero evidence to back them up still remains. We're still waiting.

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    Crazy how different HI market is from mainland. Yeah, PPI + compression, leakdown and if budget allows boroscope cylinders. It is a higher mileage vehicle after all. Good luck with purchase and let us know how it goes.

    Quote Originally Posted by komseh View Post
    The fact that you've made claims with zero evidence to back them up still remains. We're still waiting.
    No point in arguing with someone who's running his mouth and publicly admitted that he's taking on a role of a troll instead of being a productive member of a community. His posts make perfect sense according to his "game" plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong View Post
    No point in arguing with someone who's running his mouth and publicly admitted that he's taking on a role of a troll instead of being a productive member of a community. His posts make perfect sense according to his "game" plan
    #whereis10+list
    Yeah it is definitely a waste of time and effort, I just can't abide allowing a fool to spew unfounded propaganda without opposition.


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    geez, you can ship that car to the US mainland for just under a grand, I just bought a high miles car for a bit below that... I should call and offer 19k for that car lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by komseh View Post
    Yeah it is definitely a waste of time and effort, I just can't abide allowing a fool to spew unfounded propaganda without opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong View Post
    No point in arguing with someone who's running his mouth and publicly admitted that he's taking on a role of a troll instead of being a productive member of a community. His posts make perfect sense according to his "game" plan

    #whereis10+list
    Welcome #2 and #3 JHM Fan boy!

    Where are the other 7 of you? :)

    You better hurry over to AR and start a thread to call in your merry band of misfits!

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    OP, car looks good from pics. Get all the testing done so you have peace of mind. As others have said, for these higher mileage vehicles, you want to check the fuel injectors flow. In some cases, the injectors can leak and wash down the cylinder and cause all sorts of issues.

    Komseh:

    I know you are the new almighty defender of all things JHM, but please let's not turn this into another JHM bashfest. Let those that have had problems, speak on their experience. It costs you and I nothing, and if there is no validity to the claim, what difference does it make to you or I? At least, the OP and others was made aware of the possible consequence of keeping those "modifications" on the car. The truth will undoubtedly shake out in the wash.

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    Badblue,

    If this turns into a bash fest it's cause of bootleg, he only hurting the community hiding his lies. If he publicly states there are 10 blown motor's.... Why is he the only person here with one? If you have information post it, don't hold onto it like a lottery ticket thinking you are going to win something?

    And I also disagree with you saying komseh is a fan boy, he's had a bunch of issues on his car that he resolved and brought to light for the rest of the community (unlike bootleg)
    Sure he decided to use some JHM parts, but none of those has caused issues, and he has been one of the most open around here.

    So those possible consequences usually come from maintenance issue's..... Which funny enough most of the discussion lately has been about injectors..... Which I think komseh started that thread.... Just saying.



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    Quote Originally Posted by badbluers4 View Post
    I know you are the new almighty defender of all things JHM, but please let's not turn this into another JHM bashfest. Let those that have had problems, speak on their experience. It costs you and I nothing, and if there is no validity to the claim, what difference does it make to you or I? At least, the OP and others was made aware of the possible consequence of keeping those "modifications" on the car. The truth will undoubtedly shake out in the wash.
    That fine, I completely agree. Unfortunately Bootleg is framing JHM's tune as the #1 killer of all RS4 motors. For those newcomers that come across this thread, I just want them to see that so far Bootleg has not provided any evidence to support his claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by komseh View Post
    That fine, I completely agree. Unfortunately Bootleg is framing JHM's tune as the #1 killer of all RS4 motors. For those newcomers that come across this thread, I just want them to see that so far Bootleg has not provided any evidence to support his claims.
    I totally get it. and that's fine. You and Bootleq both are entitled to your own opinion. As with the TT thread, I just think we should let people do their own research, and come to their own conclusion, and pick their choice. If he has a civil suit, I'm sure he cannot share any information about the other individuals involved. All the OP or anyone needs to know is that there are claims of motor failures with the tune. Just like with anything else, at the end of the day, people have to take those claims into consideration when they are making a purchase. Let's just let that ride...all the bashing doesn't get anyone anywhere on these forums. I know in the past I have gotten into disagreements with people over mod choices, and it's really pointless and immature on my part, so I'm trying to not be a hypocrite either.

    Thanks for being level-headed about it. End Rant...

    OP, good luck and keep us posted on how this thing shakes out... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarMeyer View Post
    Badblue,

    If this turns into a bash fest it's cause of bootleg, he only hurting the community hiding his lies. If he publicly states there are 10 blown motor's.... Why is he the only person here with one? If you have information post it, don't hold onto it like a lottery ticket thinking you are going to win something?

    And I also disagree with you saying komseh is a fan boy, he's had a bunch of issues on his car that he resolved and brought to light for the rest of the community (unlike bootleg)
    Sure he decided to use some JHM parts, but none of those has caused issues, and he has been one of the most open around here.

    So those possible consequences usually come from maintenance issue's..... Which funny enough most of the discussion lately has been about injectors..... Which I think komseh started that thread.... Just saying.



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    Everything I was talking about has been posted on audizine.

    So take a hike with your go to another site talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootleg25Q View Post
    Back at it again with the internet law degree! You have no idea how civil suits work, do you?

    "As far as anyone can tell" - You and your merry band of JHM fan boys (about 10 of you) lol
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/poll.p...do=showresults

    260+ "fanboys" vs your invisible 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarMeyer View Post
    Everything I was talking about has been posted on audizine.

    So take a hike with your go to another site talk.

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    Multiple owners with JHM Tune blown motors have told me they tried to voice their concerns right here on Audizine, yet the Audi Revolution JHM fan boys gang up on them so they've simply left the forums.

    They have reached out to me privately. And for OBVIOUS reasons, I don't post all of our documented evidence ON A FORUM THAT IS SPONSORED BY THE VERY COMPANY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO START A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST.

    If you and the rest of the merry band of JHM misfits are too dense to understand that very BASIC concept then all I can say is, it makes perfect sense why the 10 of you are so NAIVE to the issue that JHM's software has presented to this platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meistah View Post
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/poll.p...do=showresults

    260+ "fanboys" vs your invisible 10.
    LOL this is comical.

    The only thing that a poll on a forum means, is that the MARKETING EFFORTS by JHM have been effective.

    That's not hard to do when all you do is pay money to be a sponsor.

    Show me 260+ people that actually HAVE the JHM Tune. ;) Anyone can hop on a poll and vote lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haole_Audi View Post
    Yea this guy doesn't know what he's got. He's the 4th owner and bought it 6 month ago. Jhm-milltek exhaust, new Jhm clutch with tune. Lightweight flywheel. Kdm catch can.

    Spoke to the second owner who did all this. Had all receipts which he gave to owner #3 which bought it for $36k.

    Owner #4 bought and wanting to sell for $20k. I know I can talk him down tho.

    Suspension has supposedly been upgraded. Running on kW v3 too. With adv1 wheels.

    - - - Updated - - -

    #4 owner bought it from an auction. So they don't know what's all in it. Luckily I know owner #2 that did basically all the work.
    It seems like all the work is done IF you were planning to add a few goodies anyways. Clutch/flywheel alone take a lot of labor to install. Since you have access to one of the owners, ask them about slave cylinder/hose.. if that had been replaced when clutch was being installed. They probably did, but can't hurt to ask.

    This car seems to yield very little power with tune/exhaust, but it does gain HP nonetheless along with clearing up some "torque" points. Upgraded suspension is also a beautiful thing. Good stuff all around. Compression test is easy on these cars since access in the engine is very easy and without much drama.
    Switched to Tesla and have never been happier. No more shady mechanic bills and excuses - oil top off before an oil change is normal or dealing with outdated forums that have image size limitations. And no more dealing with vendors that do not provide horsepower numbers but sell you random things by labeling them as performance parts. No more dealing with the Audi dealership and having to buy custom Audi specific tools. Wow. I can't believe I lived through all of this. Money pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootleg25Q View Post
    Multiple owners with JHM Tune blown motors have told me they tried to voice their concerns right here on Audizine, yet the Audi Revolution JHM fan boys gang up on them so they've simply left the forums.

    They have reached out to me privately. And for OBVIOUS reasons, I don't post all of our documented evidence ON A FORUM THAT IS SPONSORED BY THE VERY COMPANY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO START A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST.

    If you and the rest of the merry band of JHM misfits are too dense to understand that very BASIC concept then all I can say is, it makes perfect sense why the 10 of you are so NAIVE to the issue that JHM's software has presented to this platform.
    You can't win with these guys and never will. Every problem with a JHM product is installer error or "maintenance issues" according to the same people in this thread and all the others. The same guys who still believe JHMs tuner calibrates for SVT/ Ford Performance when there is literally zero evidence to support those claims other than his word. Meanwhile screenshots of Ford employee databases have proven he works at the axle plant as a material handler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday View Post
    It seems like all the work is done IF you were planning to add a few goodies anyways. Clutch/flywheel alone take a lot of labor to install. Since you have access to one of the owners, ask them about slave cylinder/hose.. if that had been replaced when clutch was being installed. They probably did, but can't hurt to ask.

    This car seems to yield very little power with tune/exhaust, but it does gain HP nonetheless along with clearing up some "torque" points. Upgraded suspension is also a beautiful thing. Good stuff all around. Compression test is easy on these cars since access in the engine is very easy and without much drama.
    2 questions:

    1) What symptom are you referring to about the slave cylinder line? The sticky clutch issue? Changing that line seemed to help at first but the sticky clutch came back.
    2) what car are you comparing the RS4 to when you say it doesn't respond well to tune and exhaust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corbett View Post
    You can't win with these guys and never will. Every problem with a JHM product is installer error or "maintenance issues" according to the same people in this thread and all the others. The same guys who still believe JHMs tuner calibrates for SVT/ Ford Performance when there is literally zero evidence to support those claims other than his word. Meanwhile screenshots of Ford employee databases have proven he works at the axle plant as a material handler.
    Another proven fact:

    JHM's tuner, Kurt, was also the tuner for the company VAST.

    Another company with documented blown motors due to tuning issues which eventually led to the company going out of business.

    But that's none of my business, right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badbluers4 View Post
    2 questions:

    1) What symptom are you referring to about the slave cylinder line? The sticky clutch issue? Changing that line seemed to help at first but the sticky clutch came back.
    2) what car are you comparing the RS4 to when you say it doesn't respond well to tune and exhaust?
    Correct. And replacement of clutch is what fixed my sticky clutch as well. However, there is an updated hose per Audi when I took my car in for warranty and slave cylinder was also replaced per their list of "known issues". Below is another reference to some of this info in Post #14 specifically:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...inder-and-line

    Tune/exhaust:
    Below link points to a beautifully documented progress by Avuspdx:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...les?p=11450308

    Goal here is to answer what OP asked: "...things I need to be aware of..." before pulling the trigger on this buy - which IMHO seems like an awesome deal.
    Switched to Tesla and have never been happier. No more shady mechanic bills and excuses - oil top off before an oil change is normal or dealing with outdated forums that have image size limitations. And no more dealing with vendors that do not provide horsepower numbers but sell you random things by labeling them as performance parts. No more dealing with the Audi dealership and having to buy custom Audi specific tools. Wow. I can't believe I lived through all of this. Money pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday View Post
    Correct. And replacement of clutch is what fixed my sticky clutch as well. However, there is an updated hose per Audi when I took my car in for warranty and slave cylinder was also replaced per their list of "known issues". Below is another reference to some of this info in Post #14 specifically:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...inder-and-line

    Tune/exhaust:
    Below link points to a beautifully documented progress by Avuspdx:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...les?p=11450308

    Goal here is to answer what OP asked: "...things I need to be aware of..." before pulling the trigger on this buy - which IMHO seems like an awesome deal.
    Which clutch did you replace it with? Yes I'm familiar with the updated line. I had that replaced by Audi a few years ago, and again the dreaded sticky clutch does in high heat come back.

    As far as the tune thread, I was asking if you were comparing to an FI car because obviously you will see 80hp gain with just a tune. You cannot compare apples and oranges. Tunes on NA cars are not meant to yield the same results. However, what we do know is that the RS4 as most would say is pretty maxed out from the factory, actually can yield 20-50whp from tune and exhaust. I will agree that asking for more than that while still NA, is pretty foolish.

    All cars today are moving towards FI. I think I heard from one of my bummer friends that every model bummer makes now has FI. 10 years ago, bummer didn't have any FI cars. So if you're really looking to contend with the cars on the road today, you have to go FI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootleg25Q View Post
    Multiple owners with JHM Tune blown motors have told me they tried to voice their concerns right here on Audizine, yet the Audi Revolution JHM fan boys (such as yourself, Eurofagr, Komesh, and Mr.Wang) gang up on them so they've simply left the forums.

    They have reached out to me privately. And for OBVIOUS reasons, I don't post all of our documented evidence ON A FORUM THAT IS SPONSORED BY THE VERY COMPANY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO START A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST.

    If you and the rest of the merry band of JHM misfits are too dense to understand that very BASIC concept then all I can say is, it makes perfect sense why the 10 of you are so NAIVE to the issue that JHM's software has presented to this platform.
    Couldn't be further from the truth! Keep running your mouth though without providing any facts to back them up as always. Whatever credibility you've ever had on here(and let me tell you that it wasn't much), you have since then lost. Pathetic delusional troll! Sad very sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong View Post
    Couldn't be further from the truth! Keep running your mouth though without providing any facts to back them up as always.
    The guy that claims the only reason he doesn't own an RS4 is because they don't come in a certain color says I don't have credibility LOL nobody cares who you think is credible and who isn't.

    You are hilarious. I sincerely appreciate your entertainment!

    Here you go, since you're extra dense I'll copy and paste it for you bud:

    They have reached out to me privately. And for OBVIOUS reasons, I don't post all of our documented evidence ON A FORUM THAT IS SPONSORED BY THE VERY COMPANY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO START A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST.

    If you and the rest of the merry band of JHM misfits are too dense to understand that very BASIC concept then all I can say is, it makes perfect sense why the 10 of you are so NAIVE to the issue that JHM's software has presented to this platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootleg25Q View Post
    The guy that claims the only reason he doesn't own an RS4 is because they don't come in a certain color LOL

    You are hilarious. I sincerely appreciate your entertainment!

    Here you go, since you're extra dense I'll copy and paste it for you bud:

    They have reached out to me privately. And for OBVIOUS reasons, I don't post all of our documented evidence ON A FORUM THAT IS SPONSORED BY THE VERY COMPANY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO START A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST.

    If you and the rest of the merry band of JHM misfits are too dense to understand that very BASIC concept then all I can say is, it makes perfect sense why the 10 of you are so NAIVE to the issue that JHM's software has presented to this platform.
    Its a 10 year old car, not that expensive. Calm down.

    Noone's asking for legal documents, just who is actually on your list.

    I counted about 30+ people with the tune on the 1st page of the poll thread. probably at least 100 in that thread alone who are actual owners. Not including the people who run the tune and don't go on this forum, or who didn't post in that thread, or who don't go on forums at all (probably the majority of their customers). Not sure where you are coming up with your number of 10.

    I understand you are trolling, but it's very easy to find dozens of people who are happily running their tune.

    And before you say it yes, it's possible all those people blew their motors and just didn't report it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meistah View Post
    Its a 10 year old car, not that expensive. Calm down.

    Noone's asking for legal documents, just who is actually on your list.

    I counted about 30+ people with the tune on the 1st page of the poll thread. probably at least 100 in that thread alone who are actual owners. Not including the people who run the tune and don't go on this forum, or who didn't post in that thread, or who don't go on forums at all (probably the majority of their customers). Not sure where you are coming up with your number of 10.

    I understand you are trolling, but it's very easy to find dozens of people who are happily running their tune.

    And before you say it yes, it's possible all those people blew their motors and just didn't report it.
    This is the most level headed approach that I've gotten from anyone on here that is pro-JHM so I will reply and say that I understand where you are coming from.

    Keep in mind, we aren't claiming that a JHM tune will guarantee catastrophic motor failure. It's obvious that is not the case. Anyone that wants to flash their tune and take the unnecessary RISK (which is known but not disclosed by JHM) on a motor that costs $12,500 + $8,000 labor to replace is on their own.

    It's funny that I'd be expected to literally provide all of the documentation, or "ammunition" if you will, that we are collecting directly to the company that we are working to bring a suit against. If I post that information, the company reads it within minutes, and we lose our upper hand. Come on, you think Jason and Daniel's attorney's aren't well aware of everything I say on here? You are smarter than that. I can't say the same about the rest of these guys (Mr.Wong, Eurogagr, Komesh, OscarMeyer, etc, etc)

    How these guys can't wrap their head around that, I have no idea.

    I'm not trolling. How would you entertain disrespectful waves of harassment by a small group of JHM followers who have pre-determined thoughts? You and I both know that nothing I say of substance will change any of their minds. I'm not here to do that. I couldn't care less what these JHM "fan boys", who have been deeply influenced by the company's digital marketing efforts on this forum, have to say.

    I'm simply here to detour others from taking an unnecessary risk that could potentially put them in a similar catastrophic situation that JHM put all of us in.

    EDIT: I apologize, I didn't address that you're only asking who is on the list. I'm a blunt person, I'm not shy, and I'm not worried about my e-feelings getting hurt by internet "thugs". That's also why I'm the person that had to come forward/step up and be the one to organize/consolidate all of the cases. Like I mentioned, if you search you can find multiple times people have brought up the pinging with JHM tunes and the issues it created with their motors but they were ganged up on and left the forum. I'm absolutely not going to provide personal information of other people. I really hope that we we are able to compile enough proof to bring a civil suit, but unfortunately I've come to learn that this is a very complex, slow process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bootleg25Q View Post
    The guy that claims the only reason he doesn't own an RS4 is because they don't come in a certain color says I don't have credibility LOL nobody cares who you think is credible and who isn't.

    You are hilarious. I sincerely appreciate your entertainment!

    Here you go, since you're extra dense I'll copy and paste it for you bud:

    They have reached out to me privately. And for OBVIOUS reasons, I don't post all of our documented evidence ON A FORUM THAT IS SPONSORED BY THE VERY COMPANY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO START A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST.

    If you and the rest of the merry band of JHM misfits are too dense to understand that very BASIC concept then all I can say is, it makes perfect sense why the 10 of you are so NAIVE to the issue that JHM's software has presented to this platform.
    Coming from a guy that dumped his 25th Quattro running away from cost of timing service and jumped into HIGH mileage RS4 and now trying to sue a company so they can pay for his new motor which he blew due to his own neglect. Then goes on making accusations and failing to back up any of his bull shit. Calling everybody that simply questioned him a fanboy. Publicly stating he's taking on a role of troll on this very forum. You go girl!!!

    See post 34!

    Op you could thank bootleg25q for trolling and ultimately derailing your thread. Sorry I got pulled into this, but I will not allow some newb salty troll smear my name. I will not reply to his idiotic nonsense anymore.
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