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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Front end clunk

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    Replaced arms (vaico including inner/outer tre, inner was an ebay special) and steering rack (zf to a 25k mile koyo). New rack was in way better condition than mine. With the boots removed the rack looked like it had been wiped with oil no drips (was still installed on a parts car when i got it), my rack on the other hand had a cup of fluid on both sides.

    Clunks when i hit speed bumps squarely and frequently but not always, small potholes at low speed. At higher speed suspension quiets up. I can also feel some feedback thru steering wheel.

    Old arm bushings were torn, and clunked at bigger potholes, felt completly different from the way the new arms/rack clunked.

    All bolts are tight, including the 3 rack bolts.

    1. Can bad sway bar bushings be felt thru steering wheel? With the old arms/rack i didn't notice any thru steering rack except for when i go over a speed bump with the one wheel hitting the bump at an angle.

    2. I left the metal clip/washer on the arm where the sway bar link goes, just flattened it a bit and used the newer style sway bar link (new = bushing, old = ball joint). Could this cause the clunk?

    3. Didn't change the shock mounts.

    4. Where does the subframe usually crack?

    5. Just had it aligned, to get it aligned and to check if the rack, subframe, suspension arms moved. Aligned fine.

    6. Shocks? I've worked on some Toyotas that had the shock lockup when left at full droop.

    7. The rack was installed without the centering bolt/tool, just eyed it and turned steering lock to lock to center. Any problems with this?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Bordom's Avatar
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    Double check the sway bar end links are tightened correctly. That's going to be the majority of your clunking if it isn't

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    Veteran Member Three Rings LA4's Avatar
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    Clunks when i hit speed bumps squarely and frequently but not always, small potholes at low speed. At higher speed suspension quiets up. I can also feel some feedback thru steering wheel.
    Had the exact same symptoms and it was sway bar end links. You can absolutely feel bad sway bar bushings thru the wheel.

    One of mine actually broke off while driving, made for some interesting handling characteristics on the way home.
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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA4 View Post
    Had the exact same symptoms and it was sway bar end links.
    Exact same issue here too. Replaced the end links for all of $30 (whatever cheap links I found), and it went away.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    New sway bar links tightened near ground level. I might try removing the bar completely to test.

    Thanks for the info guys, didnt think sway bar could be felt thru steering.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    I kinda get a swaying motion from the rear end. Just the the rear diff carrier bushings. But I think I've had this swaying before then think sway bar end links going bad with cause this as well?

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    Established Member Two Rings codyturner's Avatar
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    I hade a sway bar link snap too, it's a weird feeling, it feels like the car doesn't want to stay centered, it will either try to settle on one side or the other. Not sure if it's a "clunk" though

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    I just order the 034 RSB so I will but new end links (metal not plastic) and see if I still have the feeling.

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    Fixed.

    Turned out to be the inner tie rod. Sprayed it with white lithium. No more clunking.

    It was packed with some white grease when it was sent to me. When i checked it the grease felt like gooey rubber.

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