2.8 STK, is that possible?

[Kraken]

Sorry, pretty new for the C5 platform, but I'm curious if anybody knows if this is possible?, I've read some, and some people seems to think is possible, and you'll need a 2.7 ecu (no big deal) and i was thinking that you will definitely also need the 2.7 intake manifold along with that, probably internals as well depending on what kind of power you want to reach, anyway, any thoughts on this?? has this been done before??

[AudiA4_20T]

Sure. However, you're just wasting time/$$ when a 2.7T swap is incredibly cheap and easy.

[julex]

even easier and cheaper overall is simply buying 2.7t car to begin with.

[Kraken]

cool, im just trying to figure out where i want to go with a build, i currently have an S4 sedan and times have changed a bit and need a wagon now. My first pick is an allroad, but i've seen a6 2.8 wagons on the cheap and i was wondering if that would be a good option (trying to see if between a $2k wagon and about $3k budget can balance the price), but i see that the immediate answers are the 2.7 engine, so i will be in the hunt for an allroad or an A6 avant swap, thank you guys for the posts!.

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

Do yourself a favor and get something with a 2.7 and a 6mt right outta the box. There's deals out there to be had, just gotta be willing to travel and be patient.

[vlangs]

the 2.8/3.0 wagon is certainly a cool starting point but swapping the transmission is such a pain in the ass it's just not worth it.

If you're hell bent on a wagon get a 2.7 6speed allroad and color match the bumpers/flares. You'll essentially be getting a 6 speed widebody C5

Get a 3.0 if you want a cruiser, if you want a bruiser get a TT or V8

[mithril]

If you're hell bent on a wagon get a 2.7 6speed allroad and color match the bumpers/flares. You'll essentially be getting a 6 speed widebody C5

Except of course for the fact that, regardless of what some of the allroad guys want to believe, the allroad is actually a pre-facelift narrowbody ;)

cool, im just trying to figure out where i want to go with a build, i currently have an S4 sedan and times have changed a bit and need a wagon now.

A 2.7T swap into an Avant would be relatively easy, no different than swapping a 2.7T into a 2.8/3.0L sedan. It would also make it a unqiue car since most people wanting a 2.7T Avant just went the Allroad route the others have suggested. Your other option is the same as some others have done, find an S6 with a blown transmission/engine that you can pick up cheap as a rolling shell to swap your 2.7T into. If you're patient you can find one for not much more that the 2.8/3.0 Avant you were originally asking about and then you get the side benefit of a legitimate widebody.

[vlangs]

haha fair enough! But it certainly looks like a widebody to me :)

[NuGGet_PuFFer]

haha fair enough! But it certainly looks like a widebody to me :)

And Stu thought he was a she, appearances can be deceiving.

[8520]

An s6 is your best option for a c5 wagon. Period. If you're dead set on a 2.7 you can swap you in, but it is pretty involved. See my thread for details.

The problem with building a 2.7 c5 s6 wagon is finding a good donor. I was incredibly lucky to find my s6 with a blown motor and fairly low mileage.

No matter what you decide to do, the only "cheap, easy" option is a 6mt Allroad. That being said I probably wouldn't own one again for a couple reasons.

1. You'll have to deal with the air suspension one way or another. Remove it, replace it or replace components as they go bad.
2. Allroads look terrible two-tone, and getting a car painted is a hassle.
3. Having owned both a manual a6 and a manual Allroad, the Allroads gearing is downright awful. First gear is useless.
4. I don't like eating kale, and I don't want to wear socks with my sandles.

My vote is building a non Allroad 2.7 manual wagon. Not too hard if you have some mechanical skills, a 2.8 avant with a blown motor/trans and a good 2.7t manual parts car. Both of which aren't TOO terrible to find.

[julex]

Stuff.

You're right on all point except for kale!

However, finding S6 is hard, well one that doesn't cost an arm and a leg and it still leaves you with few items you must address:

- definitely junk the tip and put in 6MT, but that requires some good programming yoga on ECU
- above + 2.7t swap

Allroad is still by far cheaper and easier to bring to usable state. I reckon that running allroad with blow tip can be found very very easy for like 1k, not joking. From there:

1. Put in coilovers - 1k
2. Vinyl wrap flares and bumpers if you happen to get two tone. If you buy FBP allroad, that's non issue. - $250 in vinyl. But better to hunt FBP one down.
3. Since TIP is blown anyway, get rebuilt 01e from A6/S4 proper gearing and convert rear diff to 4.11. This will give you about 8% longer gears than S4/A6 have due to larger allroad tire diameter.

[brokenwrench]

I may have found something interesting, it's in Denver.....

http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/5476814134.html

[Kraken]

bruiser is what i'm going for, and i think I'm going to be aiming for an allroad, seems the more reasonable option if i want a nice sport wagon, i already have a bunch of parts for the 2.7 engine that i havent put in my S4, so, i will continue with the hunt of a wagon,

[Kraken]

i think i will be getting the allroad, the S6 shell is a good idea, and if I bump into the right deal I might jump into it

An s6 is your best option for a c5 wagon. Period. If you're dead set on a 2.7 you can swap you in, but it is pretty involved. See my thread for details.

The problem with building a 2.7 c5 s6 wagon is finding a good donor. I was incredibly lucky to find my s6 with a blown motor and fairly low mileage.

No matter what you decide to do, the only "cheap, easy" option is a 6mt Allroad. That being said I probably wouldn't own one again for a couple reasons.

1. You'll have to deal with the air suspension one way or another. Remove it, replace it or replace components as they go bad.
2. Allroads look terrible two-tone, and getting a car painted is a hassle.
3. Having owned both a manual a6 and a manual Allroad, the Allroads gearing is downright awful. First gear is useless.
4. I don't like eating kale, and I don't want to wear socks with my sandles.

My vote is building a non Allroad 2.7 manual wagon. Not too hard if you have some mechanical skills, a 2.8 avant with a blown motor/trans and a good 2.7t manual parts car. Both of which aren't TOO terrible to find.

[Kraken]

An s6 is your best option for a c5 wagon. Period. If you're dead set on a 2.7 you can swap you in, but it is pretty involved. See my thread for details.


3. Having owned both a manual a6 and a manual Allroad, the Allroads gearing is downright awful. First gear is useless.

so either way if i get me a 6MT or an AT i will eventually end up swapping that 6MT for the one of the S4 anyways? and then gear and convert rear diff to 4.11 like @julex said?

(sorry guys in advance if I'm asking annoying questions, I'm just trying to make the right decision here)

[8520]

so either way if i get me a 6MT or an AT i will eventually end up swapping that 6MT for the one of the S4 anyways? and then gear and convert rear diff to 4.11 like @julex said?

(sorry guys in advance if I'm asking annoying questions, I'm just trying to make the right decision here)

There are many, many Allroad owners that are perfectly content with thr factory Allroad gearing. I drove a manual a6 for about 5 years before I got a manual Allroad and it annoyed the crap out of me.