Emmanuele Design l MQB Lowering Spring Kit l Linear Design & Improved Ride Quality!

[EmmanueleDesign]

Taking our experience on the MQB platform, along with testing on our in-house S3 and MK7 GTI, we have developed what we feel is the best lowering spring option for those wishing to utilize factory dampers. Using a linear design (similar to OEM) with unique spring rates, our lowering springs are properly matched to the factory dampers, ensuring a ride quality that is slightly stiffer than stock, but predictable in nature. A progressive spring will typically be softer at light loads, then dramatically stiffen as compression increases. In our experience on the MQB platform, this makes it very hard to match dampening, and creates the bouncy feeling over light bumps. Our linear design has a consistent rate as the spring sees higher load. So on light bumps, it will allow the chassis to follow the road well (minimizing the bouncy feeling), while under heavy compression it will stiffen to prevent bottoming out. In our experience, this creates a much better overall ride quality.

Features include:

- Made in USA in an ISO certified facility

- Compatible with Magnetic Ride Control

- Linear Design for Improved Ride Quality

- Powder Coated Black For OEM Appearance


Many customers are switching to our springs and the reviews are in. Our springs offer the best ride quality of any aftermarket option!


"Having come from progressive springs with about the same ride height, I can certainly and immediately tell a difference in comfort and drivability." - Jon M.

"The ride comfort is at or above stock." - Lee N.

"These springs are a must have. Better feel and handling than stock, yet more comfortable. That's a win in my book." - Harith A.

"The car sits perfect and performs like it should have from the factory." - Steve B.















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[roadrunner_oz]

Mine getting installed today. Swapping out H&R Sports on mag-ride. Will post impressions and before and after measurements.

[EmmanueleDesign]

Mine getting installed today. Swapping out H&R Sports on mag-ride. Will post impressions and before and after measurements.

Sounds great!

[roadrunner_oz]

Sounds great!

What's your thoughts on mag-ride requiring re-calibration after spring install?

[EmmanueleDesign]

What's your thoughts on mag-ride requiring re-calibration after spring install?

While we have not had any issues with our springs and the factory adaptations, the service manual does state:

"On vehicles with electronically controlled damping (Audi magnetic
ride), perform the function “Adapt the Control Position”
with the Vehicle Diagnostic Tester."

[JohnnyUtah787]

Mine getting installed today. Swapping out H&R Sports on mag-ride. Will post impressions and before and after measurements.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Been considering some lowering springs for a while, but haven't pulled the trigger as I'm trying to work out the wheel offset/spacer numbers to make sure I don't get any rubbing once the car drops a bit. Was initially pretty set on H&R sports, but now these springs have got me thinking.

[EmmanueleDesign]

Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Been considering some lowering springs for a while, but haven't pulled the trigger as I'm trying to work out the wheel offset/spacer numbers to make sure I don't get any rubbing once the car drops a bit. Was initially pretty set on H&R sports, but now these springs have got me thinking.

We've had very good results with the ECS flush kit for 19" wheels. With that setup, you won't get any rubbing with our springs.

[FabianS]

How about the stock 18" wheels with 10mm front, and 15mm rear spacers? I believe the 18" have an ET of 46 while the 19" are 49.

[EmmanueleDesign]

How about the stock 18" wheels with 10mm front, and 15mm rear spacers? I believe the 18" have an ET of 46 while the 19" are 49.

We run 19x8.5 ET35 with no rubbing, and typically use that as a baseline to calculate spacer combinations. I don't see any issue with 10mm front and 15mm rear on the stock 18's.

[JohnnyUtah787]

We've had very good results with the ECS flush kit for 19" wheels. With that setup, you won't get any rubbing with our springs.

I have quite a few spacers to test fit. Based on the set-up you are running, I might be able to get away with 15mm spacers up front and at least that in the rear. I'm running 19x8 ET45 neuspeed rse10's. However, I see two possible issues; tire size and mag-ride. I have a 235/35/19 and you are running a 225/35/19. I have mag ride and yours doesn't (at least in the first photo above).

I do have a few different size spacers so I think my best bet may be to just do some test fitting.

[roadrunner_oz]

I have quite a few spacers to test fit. Based on the set-up you are running, I might be able to get away with 15mm spacers up front and at least that in the rear. I'm running 19x8 ET45 neuspeed rse10's. However, I see two possible issues; tire size and mag-ride. I have a 235/35/19 and you are running a 225/35/19. I have mag ride and yours doesn't (at least in the first photo above).

I do have a few different size spacers so I think my best bet may be to just do some test fitting.

Not sure if helps, but I run the H&R Sports (0.75 drop) with Neuspeed RSE10 19 x 9 ET45 (same as 17mm spacer) on PSS 245-35. Plenty room and no rubbing.

[EmmanueleDesign]

I have quite a few spacers to test fit. Based on the set-up you are running, I might be able to get away with 15mm spacers up front and at least that in the rear. I'm running 19x8 ET45 neuspeed rse10's. However, I see two possible issues; tire size and mag-ride. I have a 235/35/19 and you are running a 225/35/19. I have mag ride and yours doesn't (at least in the first photo above).

I do have a few different size spacers so I think my best bet may be to just do some test fitting.

The tire would be the difference maker, as even tires of the same size tend to fit differently on the wheel. Of the most recent mag-ride installs we've done, one car was on OEM 19's with the ECS flush kit and the other was on 19x8.5 ET45 wheels (will probably add 10mm spacers all around). Neither car has any issues with rubbing. I would say mag-ride cars would have less issues with rubbing, as they seem to sit a tad higher.

[Blairautomotive]

Ordering a set of these bad boys for the Viper Green S3 w/ mag ride and will post pictures of the install and results!

[roadrunner_oz]

Installed the Emmanuele S3 linear springs yesterday to replace the H&R Sport springs on my mag-ride S3.

As you are all aware the stock setup suffers from rear bounce, worsened with the progressive H&R springs over time. The H&R actually became very annoying for me as too stiff and jarring. I found the best option to leave suspension in Auto mode. I have owned cars with stiff suspensions before, such as BMW 1M, M3, however the H&R’s were on another level and certainly seemed to get worse from the early install. The rear was also slightly unsettled at corner speeds on track days and sweeping hwy exits.

Early review of the Emmanuale springs is very positive. Only done city driving thus far, but they are far more comfortable compared to the H&R’s. The car is more planted and settled and greatly reduced bounce/pogo at the rear over bumps. No more jarring through the steering. Just feels more solid/secure/planted to the road, instead of being skittish over anything uneven. It is difficult for me to compare to OE springs as that was 6+ months ago, but certainly less bounce than I remember from OE, but certainly firmer that OE. I have yet to test high speed corners.

I do now have a knocking noise over speed humps, but seems to be perhaps an install problem and/or hoping it will settle.

H&R Sports drop on mag-ride is 0.75”, so essentially identical to Emmanuele’s. I run 19x9 ET45 wheels with PSS 245-35's. The measurements from the ground through the centre hub line to lip of fender, the front is 1cm higher & rear 0.5cm higher. I am guessing the new springs may settle a bit as the gap on the front is a touch too much IMO. Hope they settle.

Thanks Emmanuele, you saved me going coil-overs and a lot of $. Great product thus far!

[JohnnyUtah787]

Not sure if helps, but I run the H&R Sports (0.75 drop) with Neuspeed RSE10 19 x 9 ET45 (same as 17mm spacer) on PSS 245-35. Plenty room and no rubbing.

Definitely helps. Thanks.

[JohnnyUtah787]

The tire would be the difference maker, as even tires of the same size tend to fit differently on the wheel. Of the most recent mag-ride installs we've done, one car was on OEM 19's with the ECS flush kit and the other was on 19x8.5 ET45 wheels (will probably add 10mm spacers all around). Neither car has any issues with rubbing. I would say mag-ride cars would have less issues with rubbing, as they seem to sit a tad higher.

Thanks for the info.

[EmmanueleDesign]

Installed the Emmanuele S3 linear springs yesterday to replace the H&R Sport springs on my mag-ride S3.

As you are all aware the stock setup suffers from rear bounce, worsened with the progressive H&R springs over time. The H&R actually became very annoying for me as too stiff and jarring. I found the best option to leave suspension in Auto mode. I have owned cars with stiff suspensions before, such as BMW 1M, M3, however the H&R’s were on another level and certainly seemed to get worse from the early install. The rear was also slightly unsettled at corner speeds on track days and sweeping hwy exits.

Early review of the Emmanuale springs is very positive. Only done city driving thus far, but they are far more comfortable compared to the H&R’s. The car is more planted and settled and greatly reduced bounce/pogo at the rear over bumps. No more jarring through the steering. Just feels more solid/secure/planted to the road, instead of being skittish over anything uneven. It is difficult for me to compare to OE springs as that was 6+ months ago, but certainly less bounce than I remember from OE, but certainly firmer that OE. I have yet to test high speed corners.

I do now have a knocking noise over speed humps, but seems to be perhaps an install problem and/or hoping it will settle.

H&R Sports drop on mag-ride is 0.75”, so essentially identical to Emmanuele’s. I run 19x9 ET45 wheels with PSS 245-35's. The measurements from the ground through the centre hub line to lip of fender, the front is 1cm higher & rear 0.5cm higher. I am guessing the new springs may settle a bit as the gap on the front is a touch too much IMO. Hope they settle.

Thanks Emmanuele, you saved me going coil-overs and a lot of $. Great product thus far!

Thank you for the review, and glad to hear that the comfort level is improved! I sent you an email regarding the noise you are hearing

[EmmanueleDesign]

In stock and ready to ship!

http://www.emmanueledesign.com/colle...ing-spring-kit

[ECP]

Better pics to follow but wanted to throw these up right after the install.





Install was somewhat straight forward and the ride isn't much different than OEM!

Thank you Thomas.

[EmmanueleDesign]

Better pics to follow but wanted to throw these up right after the install.





Install was somewhat straight forward and the ride isn't much different than OEM!

Thank you Thomas.

Thank you for the order and glad that you are enjoying them!

[A20V200]

Looking into these and getting rid of my H&R SS....after the Emmanual springs settle.....are they they roughly the same height as the H&R...? I really like the ride height of the H&R springs....the ride...NOT so much!!!

[EmmanueleDesign]

Looking into these and getting rid of my H&R SS....after the Emmanual springs settle.....are they they roughly the same height as the H&R...? I really like the ride height of the H&R springs....the ride...NOT so much!!!

Yes, the ride height is very similar.

[sub-zero]

these work fine with non mag ride?

[diztek]

Looking into these and getting rid of my H&R SS....after the Emmanual springs settle.....are they they roughly the same height as the H&R...? I really like the ride height of the H&R springs....the ride...NOT so much!!!

Im in scottsdale, would love to go for a ride in your car if you gets these installed. also would love to see how the UM dsg tune feels.

[montess2001]

I do now have a knocking noise over speed humps, but seems to be perhaps an install problem and/or hoping it will settle.

Have you had any luck solving this issue? I'm having a similar situation

[Thumper3]

I do now have a knocking noise over speed humps, but seems to be perhaps an install problem and/or hoping it will settle.

I would take it back to have them inspect it. I had a similar noise after having H&Rs installed on my GTI. Took it back and they found they had not tightened up all the bolts on one side for the strut

Definitely want to hear your impressions from the track on these.

[EmmanueleDesign]

these work fine with non mag ride?

Yes, we've installed these on many non mag-ride cars.

[EmmanueleDesign]

Have you had any luck solving this issue? I'm having a similar situation

There can be some coil noise as the springs settle. To dampen this, you can also wrap the contact parts with something like this:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardner-B...EART/202905460

[roadrunner_oz]

Have you had any luck solving this issue? I'm having a similar situation

Away for 10 days, so is going back to installer until next week. My guess something isn't seated or tightened. i got underneath and couldn't not see anything obvious. I am sure it isn't an issue related to the springs, but rather the install, despite being performed by a pro suspension shop, they still make mistakes sometimes.

[carlito.p]

Had these installed today. I too had a knocking noise over bumps. Back up on the hoist, we could see that the top 2 coils were catching each other upon compression and making a noise as they came apart. Even after a short test drive, we could see that the powdercoat on the contact points had rubbed off. As suggested above, my tech put a spiral coil wrap on the top 2 coils and that seemed to eliminate the noise for now. Easy enough fix, but I wish the kit came with the wrap, like H&R's kit does.

Initial impressions of ride quality are very positive compared to stock. Honestly not much stiffer than stock at all. Ride height is much improved, although I wish that the front were a tad lower. Hopefully it will settle a bit more.




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[JohnnyUtah787]

Had these installed today. I too had a knocking noise over bumps. Back up on the hoist, we could see that the top 2 coils were catching each other upon compression and making a noise as they came apart. Even after a short test drive, we could see that the powdercoat on the contact points had rubbed off. As suggested above, my tech put a spiral coil wrap on the top 2 coils and that seemed to eliminate the noise for now. Easy enough fix, but I wish the kit came with the wrap, like H&R's kit does.

Initial impressions of ride quality are very positive compared to stock. Honestly not much stiffer than stock at all. Ride height is much improved, although I wish that the front were a tad lower. Hopefully it will settle a bit more.




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Have you given them a good beating? If ride comfort is similar to stock daily driving, that's good. But if it's similar to stock on say a track, under hard cornering, then that's not so good.

[carlito.p]

Have you given them a good beating? If ride comfort is similar to stock daily driving, that's good. But if it's similar to stock on say a track, under hard cornering, then that's not so good.

Drove it as hard as highway driving would allow . No hard cornering or anything, but felt very planted compared to stock. City driving felt almost exactly like stock. I don't plan on tracking or anything like that, so perhaps someone else can chime in...

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[roadrunner_oz]

Had these installed today. I too had a knocking noise over bumps. Back up on the hoist, we could see that the top 2 coils were catching each other upon compression and making a noise as they came apart. Even after a short test drive, we could see that the powdercoat on the contact points had rubbed off. As suggested above, my tech put a spiral coil wrap on the top 2 coils and that seemed to eliminate the noise for now. Easy enough fix, but I wish the kit came with the wrap, like H&R's kit does.

Initial impressions of ride quality are very positive compared to stock. Honestly not much stiffer than stock at all. Ride height is much improved, although I wish that the front were a tad lower. Hopefully it will settle a bit more.


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I wouldn't think this a problem on linear springs, just progressive.
So just wrap the top of the 2 front coils...rears ok?? I had the H&R's before and there was no coil wrap. So what you are saying is that the top 2 coils on the spring were making contact on full compression and sticking? Do you have details/photos of the fix?

[carlito.p]

So just wrap the top of the 2 front coils...rears ok?? I had the H&R's before and there was no coil wrap. So what you are saying is that the top 2 coils on the spring were making contact on full compression and sticking? Do you have details/photos of the fix?

No pictures unfortunately. Just the wrap that's similar to the link that ED posted a few posts back. I didn't have H&R's installed either, just going by what the shop said, that H&R's usually come wrapped or include wrap. The tech basically wrapped the contact points of the top 2 coils, with the material leftover from an H&R install.

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[roadrunner_oz]

No pictures unfortunately. Just the wrap that's similar to the link that ED posted a few posts back. I didn't have H&R's installed either, just going by what the shop said, that H&R's usually come wrapped or include wrap. The tech basically wrapped the contact points of the top 2 coils, with the material leftover from an H&R install.

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Linear springs shouldn't have this problem, just progressive.

Assume these ED springs have a top/bottom orientation, perhaps it is incorrect?

[ECP]

Finally put some miles on the s3 since spring install. No noises to report, installed myself.

Current stance

[JohnnyUtah787]

Finally put some miles on the s3 since spring install. No noises to report, installed myself.

How do they compare to stock under normal and hard driving?

[ECP]

How do they compare to stock under normal and hard driving?

Almost similar, I beat the car pretty good during my commute and felt pretty good and lots of lane switching. Only thing I noticed was a tad more bounce in dynamic mode. Comfort will almost put me to sleep

[roadrunner_oz]

These springs seem to have an issue with rubbing on top coil which results in a knocking noise. I know the said solution is to use spiral cable wrap, but this isn't going to resolve it long term as will simply wear through. VERY DISAPPOINTED !!!! The install cost me $700 to switch from the H&R and while the ride is far better, the knocking noise is not acceptable. Please provide some sort of sleeve to prevent this or some solution.

[geralis32]

i have had rubbing in the exact same area, i did wrap the springs but the coil has already worn through and making noise again