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    EPL Stage 2 install issue

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    The GB thread has been closed so I started a new one. I wanted to see if anyone else had any issues flashing with EPL? I flashed Stage 1 and TCU fine, but now my Stage 2 keeps failing to connect to the remote host. I've talked to Tony several times (and he is still helpful, this isn't a complaint or bash thread), I'm just wondering if there is anyone else who has had issues and was able to resolve them. Tony says he can see all my files on his end fine, and they come up on the flashloader, but fail. I'm hoping this is something computer related that one of you guys might be able to figure out.

    FWIW I am Windows 10, firewall disabled and antivirus disabled. The weird thing is I was able to flash TCU and Stage 1 with both the firewall and antivirus on. I've tried more than one wifi and over cellular hotspot from the phone.

    I don't know what to do anymore, not being able to flash to Stage 2 is a concern, but my real concern is I can't flash back to stock.

    Any input is appreciated.
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    I thought I remember seeing that someone had to uninstall the tcu the retried with the ecu and it worked. Not sure if it helps but I do remember seeing some with issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14S4GWM View Post
    I thought I remember seeing that someone had to uninstall the tcu the retried with the ecu and it worked. Not sure if it helps but I do remember seeing some with issues.
    I'll try just about anything at this point. I'll see what Tony has to say tomorrow about this as well.
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    It could be a Windows 10 security feature or update that causing the issue... Have you tried restoring your computer back to an earlier date or tried with Windows 7?
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    You mentioned that when you flashed Stage1 you had firewall and antivirus enabled, yet when you attempted to flash Stage2 they were both disabled. This is a long shot, but did you try leaving the firewall and antivirus enabled when attempting to flash Stage2? I don't really know much about computers but I'm trying to eliminate variables.
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    Hello - I'll gladly remote in tomorrow and take a look. We have made no changes to the flash loader since November, so the system operates identical to when you flashed previous. Have you added any additional software? The errors you are seeing are generally a firewall/internet connectivity issue. What anti virus do you have? Has it updated recently?

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    Tony give me a call today and we will try again. Thanks everyone for the ideas. I will post what ends up working in case anyone else runs into this in the future too.


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    Your Windows is not virtualized is it? I had the issue running Windows in a virtual environment. VCDS would work fine. EPL tunes would show up fine. EPL would begin the download, installed the flash, but then it would crap out about 25% way through. It would only work when I borrowed a Dell Laptop and tried from there. I'll end up buying a $100 Windows Pro tablet for just this (well, and VCDS I guess).

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    My guess would be it is a Windows 10 issue since you are the first person I have seen that has tried to flash using Windows 10. Make sure that you are also disabling Windows Defender as well. Also how are you turning the Firewall off? If you disable the Windows Firewall service it essentially goes into a block state. You need to set the profile you are connected to (Domain, Public, or Private) to off with the Firewall Service still running. You can also run the following command from an elevated command prompt to turn off the advanced firewall for all profiles: netsh advfirewall set allprofiles state off

    When you are finished run netsh advfirewall set allprofiles state on to turn the firewall back on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transcend View Post
    It could be a Windows 10 security feature or update that causing the issue... Have you tried restoring your computer back to an earlier date or tried with Windows 7?
    My first flash was with 10 and worked without issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveYem View Post
    You mentioned that when you flashed Stage1 you had firewall and antivirus enabled, yet when you attempted to flash Stage2 they were both disabled. This is a long shot, but did you try leaving the firewall and antivirus enabled when attempting to flash Stage2? I don't really know much about computers but I'm trying to eliminate variables.
    I tried that before disabling the firewall and antivirus.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmaddr View Post
    Your Windows is not virtualized is it? I had the issue running Windows in a virtual environment. VCDS would work fine. EPL tunes would show up fine. EPL would begin the download, installed the flash, but then it would crap out about 25% way through. It would only work when I borrowed a Dell Laptop and tried from there. I'll end up buying a $100 Windows Pro tablet for just this (well, and VCDS I guess).
    I don't know what virtualized means, if this doesn't work can someone help with the tablet I need? A link to best buy or newegg or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by AudBoost View Post
    My guess would be it is a Windows 10 issue since you are the first person I have seen that has tried to flash using Windows 10. Make sure that you are also disabling Windows Defender as well. Also how are you turning the Firewall off? If you disable the Windows Firewall service it essentially goes into a block state. You need to set the profile you are connected to (Domain, Public, or Private) to off with the Firewall Service still running. You can also run the following command from an elevated command prompt to turn off the advanced firewall for all profiles: netsh advfirewall set allprofiles state off

    When you are finished run netsh advfirewall set allprofiles state on to turn the firewall back on.
    Tried this from administrator prompt, still got error.

    I will have Tony remote administrate today and hopefully he will find something. Thanks for all the ideas so far. Again I just want to make clear that Tony and EPL are trying everything they can think of too, this thread is NOT a knock on EPL, I'm just hoping for more ideas here.
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    virtualized meaning vmware or its not the base operating system .. but i'm pretty sure its not
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    virtualized meaning vmware or its not the base operating system .. but i'm pretty sure its not
    No Win 10 Pro is my operating system.
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    Whats the protocol being used for the download? FTP, https, also what port is being used? Can you telnet to the remote host? Can you ping that host? Tried a tracert to the host?
    Life has taught me never try to make something idiot proof, they'll simply come up with a better idiot.
    I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
    I have neither the time, nor the crayons to explain this to you properly.

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    The failure to connect tells me one of two things, either the account is not authorized to have access to the host or just that its not connecting due to some sort of bad configuration. If the initial connection was established and then failed that could be another issue but based on what you've said already I'd try the steps I outlined earlier.
    Life has taught me never try to make something idiot proof, they'll simply come up with a better idiot.
    I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
    I have neither the time, nor the crayons to explain this to you properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackfunk View Post
    Whats the protocol being used for the download? FTP, https, also what port is being used? Can you telnet to the remote host? Can you ping that host? Tried a tracert to the host?
    you might confuse him with all this technical info .. would been better for him to install wire shark and look for errors while connecting
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    Delete the entire program from the computer then re download the flash program. And drivers
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    I was able to find the same tablet Tony uses for $75. Going that route because this issue just isn't worth the time Tony or I have been spending on it. I'm also concerned that it would pop up again in the future so I think this is the best choice.

    Thanks again Tony for all your help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cbnat View Post
    I was able to find the same tablet Tony uses for $75. Going that route because this issue just isn't worth the time Tony or I have been spending on it. I'm also concerned that it would pop up again in the future so I think this is the best choice.

    Thanks again Tony for all your help.


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    I hope posting this is ok. If not Mods please delete.

    http://www.amazon.com/HP-Stream-Wind...windows+tablet


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    Quote Originally Posted by cbnat View Post
    I hope posting this is ok. If not Mods please delete.

    http://www.amazon.com/HP-Stream-Wind...windows+tablet


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    I found mine on EBay

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Stream-7-...4AAOSwv0tVSRJS

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    Flashed without issue on the tablet. If you go this route just remember to buy an adapter for the USB.


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