tire rotation

[jokerS5]

Got a flat in my left front tire. Where should i place the new tire. Roughly 2000 miles on the tires on the car. Should I rotate the tires?

[mousewei84]

Got a flat in my left front tire. Where should i place the new tire. Roughly 2000 miles on the tires on the car. Should I rotate the tires?

Not necessary. Your tires are still fairly new. I do rotation every 10k miles

[d1amund]

A new tire always goes to the back; somewhat negligible at 2000 miles, but that's the general rule.

[jokerS5]

heard from audi to put the new tire on the front ?

[HazeMyth]

A new tire always goes to the back; somewhat negligible at 2000 miles, but that's the general rule.

Every other AWD car I've owned has called for the newest tire on the front.

[d1amund]

Idk what to tell you. I'm going off the info provided by my tire shop and backed up by various articles such as this:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...nked-10031440/

"There is no "even if" to this one. Whether you own a front-, rear- or all-wheel-drive car, truck, or SUV, the tires with the most tread go on the rear."

The fact is if you want to be 100% particular and safe about it, the new tire should be shaved to match the other three.

[wangshuo1989]

for audi awd you should replace 4 tires at a time, and don't rotate them

[B-Time]

for audi awd you should replace 4 tires at a time, and don't rotate them

Where did you hear that? I would not recommend it.

[wangshuo1989]

Where did you hear that? I would not recommend it.

Audi service schedule. Tire rotation will hide suspension problems. And for audi's that usually equipped with high performance tires, you won't get too much miles out of them anyway.

[Drew0u812]

Tires need to be rotated to maximize tread life. The front tires wear significantly faster than the rears and need to be rotated, or I guess just throw them out every 10k miles
Alignment issues which cause abnormal tire wear will be noticed when the tires are inspected before just blindly swapping them.
In the end, it's just another car and if you are running a square setup you can maximize tread life by rotating.

BTW; The dealer rotated my tires when I took car in for the services.

[dyl0n]

for audi awd you should replace 4 tires at a time, and don't rotate them

Lol wut

[B-Time]

Audi service schedule. Tire rotation will hide suspension problems. And for audi's that usually equipped with high performance tires, you won't get too much miles out of them anyway.

"Because it will hide suspension problems"? That is just plain stupid. I'd like to see that service schedule and the asshat that wrote it.

[d1amund]

Oy vey! This sounds like advice from someone who wants to sell you four new tires at a premium price everytime you get a nail in a tire.

[wangshuo1989]

"Because it will hide suspension problems"? That is just plain stupid. I'd like to see that service schedule and the asshat that wrote it.

[wangshuo1989]

Tires need to be rotated to maximize tread life. The front tires wear significantly faster than the rears and need to be rotated, or I guess just throw them out every 10k miles
Alignment issues which cause abnormal tire wear will be noticed when the tires are inspected before just blindly swapping them.
In the end, it's just another car and if you are running a square setup you can maximize tread life by rotating.

BTW; The dealer rotated my tires when I took car in for the services.

I inspect my tires every time I get an oil change, and all four tires wear evenly. If your front tires wear significantly faster on such full time AWD car with RWD bias, there is something wrong going on. My current S5 with 40/60 split and my preivous subaru with 45/55 split, they all wear pretty evenly.

[wangshuo1989]

Lol wut

Because if your front axle and rear axle's diameter are different, they are rotating at a different speed, and with a significant margin (more than 1/32), your car's computer will think you keep getting wheel spin and will try to compensate that.

[dyl0n]

Because if your front axle and rear axle's diameter are different, they are rotating at a different speed, and with a significant margin (more than 1/32), your car's computer will think you keep getting wheel spin and will try to compensate that.

Right I understand that. But not rotate them? You rotate them to avoid a difference. The front will obviously wear faster than the rear. So you swap the front to rear and vice versa to prevent a differential wheel speed between the front and back.

[wangshuo1989]

Right I understand that. But not rotate them? You rotate them to avoid a difference. The front will obviously wear faster than the rear. So you swap the front to rear and vice versa to prevent a differential wheel speed between the front and back.

Well to me I align the suspension to factory spec and no mod on it, and my car wear tires evenly. I know our cars are front heavy, but with a RWD biased system and no track event, I'm getting even tire wear. The inner and outer part of front tires and rear tires will definitely wear differently however, that's why you don't want to rotate tires, which will probably cause vibration. From 19'inch tires that fit our car, it's pretty hard to get over 30K miles out of any set whether you rotate them or not, so I just don't bother.

[JoshDub]

There is so much stupid in this thread.

The reason tire shops suggest you put the most tread on there rear is to prevent oversteer, mainly in hydroplane situations. End of story, that is why they suggest that. You can put them where ever your heart desires.

Rotating needs to be done if possible. That Audi tech is using the (common) line of thinking that in a perfect world all four tires will wear equally on an AWD car since all wheels apply power to the ground. And since they wear perfectly, any uneven wear allows you to quickly pinpoint and check the conditon of various suspension components.

Well it isn't a perfect world. You need to rotate your shit, provided your setup allows you to. It's likely not going to be the traditional clockwise rotation with these cars, but you can at least do front the back.

It's just tires people, not witchcraft.

[d1amund]

According to the Audi service manual (I read 2013-2016 FYI) you are supposed to rotate the tires at 5,000 miles, only. My guess is they don't want to do it after 5k because they don't want to be on the hook for it for free. Obviously if you notice uneven wear patterns, you do it after 5k as well. And even more needed if you change the suspension geometry away from factory specs.

I still don't buy into (and literally won't) the argument that one must purchase four new tires whenever an irreparable instance occurs on one tire.

[Drew0u812]

According to the Audi service manual (I read 2013-2016 FYI) you are supposed to rotate the tires at 5,000 miles, only. My guess is they don't want to do it after 5k because they don't want to be on the hook for it for free. Obviously if you notice uneven wear patterns, you do it after 5k as well. And even more needed if you change the suspension geometry away from factory specs.

I still don't buy into (and literally won't) the argument that one must purchase four new tires whenever an irreparable instance occurs on one tire.

I had a bubble one of my Michelin Pilot Sport AS, I simply found a used one with similar tread depth on ebay... Problem solved!
The replacement was the same model tire within 2 tenths wear.


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[JoshDub]

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I still don't buy into (and literally won't) the argument that one must purchase four new tires whenever an irreparable instance occurs on one tire.

You don't need to replace all four. You just need to replace the one bad tire with one that has similar tread depth, whether it be used or shaved. Most tire retailers (including the dealer) aren't in the business of selling used or shaving new tires. So most people get all four replaced.

Now if you have 5/32nds left on three and replace one with 11/32nds, then you have a problem.